FB: Liberty League

[lewdogg11]

[Frank Rossi]

OK, folks.  Trivia question for you:

Which of these scores is impossible in a completed NCAA college football game?

A) 6-1
B) 3-1
C) 2-2
D) All of the Above
E) None of the Above

Still looking for a winner... I thought Doid would be all over this one.

[theoriginalupstate]

B...

Final answer...

After looking at the rules a 6-1 score is possible because of a Safety by the defensive team on a EP attempt...

Team A scores a TD and Team B earns a safety on the EP attempt somehow...

[Doid23]

B...

Final answer...

After looking at the rules a 6-1 score is possible because of a Safety by the defensive team on a EP attempt...

Team A scores a TD and Team B earns a safety on the EP attempt somehow...

Agreed on B, since as Upstate said, the only way to score 1 point is after a touchdown, no way to score 1 point if a touchdown is not scored.  Can't imagine it would ever happen, since the kicking team would have to fumble, the defensive team would have to recover, then fumble again, and somehow the kicking team would have to recover that fumble, and be tackled in the defenses end zone for a safety.

[theoriginalupstate]

B...

Final answer...

After looking at the rules a 6-1 score is possible because of a Safety by the defensive team on a EP attempt...

Team A scores a TD and Team B earns a safety on the EP attempt somehow...

Agreed on B, since as Upstate said, the only way to score 1 point is after a touchdown, no way to score 1 point if a touchdown is not scored.  Can't imagine it would ever happen, since the kicking team would have to fumble, the defensive team would have to recover, then fumble again, and somehow the kicking team would have to recover that fumble, and be tackled in the defenses end zone for a safety.

Perhaps a kick get's blocked...

The D runs it back and it get's punched out by a player on the kicking team at the 5...

The kicking team picks it up at the 5 and tries to run it all the way back but either fumbles the ball out of hte endzone or gets tackled inside the endzone...

[Pat Coleman]

I see the rules, but I still hold that there COULD be a tie.  If there is an unforeseen injury, death, etc etc, and the coaches agree to end the game.  It COULD happen. 

Darkness.

[Frank Rossi]

B...

Final answer...

After looking at the rules a 6-1 score is possible because of a Safety by the defensive team on a EP attempt...

Team A scores a TD and Team B earns a safety on the EP attempt somehow...

Agreed on B, since as Upstate said, the only way to score 1 point is after a touchdown, no way to score 1 point if a touchdown is not scored.  Can't imagine it would ever happen, since the kicking team would have to fumble, the defensive team would have to recover, then fumble again, and somehow the kicking team would have to recover that fumble, and be tackled in the defenses end zone for a safety.

There are two ways:

1) Team A is the kicking team.  Team B blocks the kick.  The kick continues going backward unrecovered all the way to the opposite endzone.  Team A lands on the ball in the endzone or the ball rolls out of the back of that endzone.

2) Team A is the kicking team or the team trying for two.  Team B takes the ball after a block, fumble or interception in the try after touchdown play.  Team B fumbles the ball at the 2, where a member of Team A recovers the ball.  Member of Team A runs back on his own power to the endzone to attempt to return the ball and gets tackled there.

Both would yield a safety in a normal play for two points, but in the try after touchdown scenario, it is worth just one point.

[Frank Rossi]

B...

Final answer...

After looking at the rules a 6-1 score is possible because of a Safety by the defensive team on a EP attempt...

Team A scores a TD and Team B earns a safety on the EP attempt somehow...

Well done, Upstate.  3-1 is impossible because there must be a touchdown for a one-point safety to be in play.  Ties are possible if teams agree that due to weather conditions, the game should end or, as Pat stated, due to darkness.

[Mr. Ypsi]

A semantic quibble on the original wording of the trivia question: a tie could result if the game is 'ended' due to whatever factors, but was the game really 'completed'?

[Frank Rossi]

A semantic quibble on the original wording of the trivia question: a tie could result if the game is 'ended' due to whatever factors, but was the game really 'completed'?

Yes, as the W/L record would be extended to include the tie.  The game would not be resumed.

[Mr. Ypsi]

A semantic quibble on the original wording of the trivia question: a tie could result if the game is 'ended' due to whatever factors, but was the game really 'completed'?

Yes, as the W/L record would be extended to include the tie.  The game would not be resumed.

Yes, the game ended, and it counted, but it was not 'completed'.  That would be like saying Nixon 'completed' his term in 1974 - it 'ended' (thank God!), but was not 'completed'.

[Jonny Utah]

Well I think there are a few ways you could score one point on these two point conversions.

What if team A goes for a 2 point conversion.  Team A then throws an interception and Team B intercepts it in the end zone and starts to run it out.  Team B gets to the 5 yard line and the player turns around and scrambles back into the endzone where he either gets tackled in the endzone or fumbles it out of the end zone.

Does Team A get a point?

[theoriginalupstate]

Well I think there are a few ways you could score one point on these two point conversions.

What if team A goes for a 2 point conversion.  Team A then throws an interception and Team B intercepts it in the end zone and starts to run it out.  Team B gets to the 5 yard line and the player turns around and scrambles back into the endzone where he either gets tackled in the endzone or fumbles it out of the end zone.

Does Team A get a point?

Yeah that was the Texas game I mentioned earlier...

Team A would get a point, but they already scored 6 points and it would give them 7...

[Frank Rossi]

Well I think there are a few ways you could score one point on these two point conversions.

What if team A goes for a 2 point conversion.  Team A then throws an interception and Team B intercepts it in the end zone and starts to run it out.  Team B gets to the 5 yard line and the player turns around and scrambles back into the endzone where he either gets tackled in the endzone or fumbles it out of the end zone.

Does Team A get a point?

Yes.  The last time this happened in major college football was in 2004 in the Texas/Texas A&M game.  However, Team A would get 7 points in this situation since that was the team that scored the TD.  It's Team B that needs the point for the weird scores we saw in the question, though.

[Frank Rossi]

Well I think there are a few ways you could score one point on these two point conversions.

What if team A goes for a 2 point conversion.  Team A then throws an interception and Team B intercepts it in the end zone and starts to run it out.  Team B gets to the 5 yard line and the player turns around and scrambles back into the endzone where he either gets tackled in the endzone or fumbles it out of the end zone.

Does Team A get a point?

Yeah that was the Texas game I mentioned earlier...

Team A would get a point, but they already scored 6 points and it would give them 7...

LOL... Now you're our one-point safety specialist.  See, ya learn something everyday.