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[Lawrence Oliver]

If Audino does depart will Union elevate an assistant or look outside for a new coach?  Any thoughts?

[Bombers798891]

Here's a very good take from this morning's Daily Gazette regarding Audino and Union Football:

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2015/feb/25/0225_maccolumn/?free

Well that was quite the puff piece.

Seriously.

"So Union faced two scenarios - firing Audino, or not firing Audino but leaving everyone to contemplate, if Audino isn't the problem, then what is?"

Great question! But no attempt, even, at an answer.

"In fact, supporters of the program are not thrilled with its direction and how it's being treated by the department"

There's your answer, cowardly tucked away in a variation on the old "people say..." When you want to hide from being accused of being critical and are too lazy to/can't actually find some other source to directly say what you're, you just attribute the criticism to the unnamed masses. 'I'm not the one who said you're treating the program poorly, other people are...'

It's clear the writer blames the department, but he didn't want to anger them by going off on some screed. So he just delivered a quick little drive-by.

[Pat Coleman]

Quickest and littlest, yeah.

[Jonny Utah]

Here's a very good take from this morning's Daily Gazette regarding Audino and Union Football:

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2015/feb/25/0225_maccolumn/?free

Well that was quite the puff piece.

Seriously.

"So Union faced two scenarios - firing Audino, or not firing Audino but leaving everyone to contemplate, if Audino isn't the problem, then what is?"

Great question! But no attempt, even, at an answer.

"In fact, supporters of the program are not thrilled with its direction and how it's being treated by the department"

There's your answer, cowardly tucked away in a variation on the old "people say..." When you want to hide from being accused of being critical and are too lazy to/can't actually find some other source to directly say what you're, you just attribute the criticism to the unnamed masses. 'I'm not the one who said you're treating the program poorly, other people are...'

It's clear the writer blames the department, but he didn't want to anger them by going off on some screed. So he just delivered a quick little drive-by.

The writer also says "he didn't suddenly forget how to coach football", which is also lame in my opinion.  While it is true that Audino probably didn't forget how to coach football, the game has changed, and as a head coach you better make sure you have the staff that can handle those changes.  Recruiting has also changed, and it is up to the head coach to make sure the program has adapted to those changes as well.

That being said, if the AD or administration are at fault, at least give us something more than what is written in this article, which isn't much.  I mean, ask the AD about financial aid, or admissions, or coaching staffing in the department, or anything.

[Bartman]

Here's a very good take from this morning's Daily Gazette regarding Audino and Union Football:

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2015/feb/25/0225_maccolumn/?free

Well that was quite the puff piece.

Seriously.

"So Union faced two scenarios - firing Audino, or not firing Audino but leaving everyone to contemplate, if Audino isn't the problem, then what is?"

Great question! But no attempt, even, at an answer.

"In fact, supporters of the program are not thrilled with its direction and how it's being treated by the department"

There's your answer, cowardly tucked away in a variation on the old "people say..." When you want to hide from being accused of being critical and are too lazy to/can't actually find some other source to directly say what you're, you just attribute the criticism to the unnamed masses. 'I'm not the one who said you're treating the program poorly, other people are...'

It's clear the writer blames the department, but he didn't want to anger them by going off on some screed. So he just delivered a quick little drive-by.

The writer also says "he didn't suddenly forget how to coach football", which is also lame in my opinion.  While it is true that Audino probably didn't forget how to coach football, the game has changed, and as a head coach you better make sure you have the staff that can handle those changes.  Recruiting has also changed, and it is up to the head coach to make sure the program has adapted to those changes as well.

That being said, if the AD or administration are at fault, at least give us something more than what is written in this article, which isn't much.  I mean, ask the AD about financial aid, or admissions, or coaching staffing in the department, or anything.

Reading this article was like listening to Greenspan talk about economic forecasts....I know he meant to tell me something but I must be too stupid to understand the subtle message. This is for loyal Union followers to sort out, but as an outsider I see an AD that has emphasized limited resources on Hockey(NCAA Championship was pretty cool , but losing record this year) and needs to address a succession plan for a great  football coach with dignity. Union talent is not as intimidating as it once was and that is a recruiting issue which is either the coaching staff losing a step or the lack of admissions support(now going to Hockey?) or maybe a combination. The author never really researched these issues well. I want Union football strong again because  I love the passion of a tightly competed Union-Hobart football game.

[Bombers798891]

The writer also says "he didn't suddenly forget how to coach football", which is also lame in my opinion.  While it is true that Audino probably didn't forget how to coach football, the game has changed, and as a head coach you better make sure you have the staff that can handle those changes.  Recruiting has also changed, and it is up to the head coach to make sure the program has adapted to those changes as well.

That being said, if the AD or administration are at fault, at least give us something more than what is written in this article, which isn't much.  I mean, ask the AD about financial aid, or admissions, or coaching staffing in the department, or anything.

I've always believed that, on the D-III level, you should be fired for two reasons:

1. Your team has become consistently non-competitive on the field
2. You're not keeping things in order off the field

I'd be a lousy AD because of this, but I just believe that if your players are graduating and behaving, and your program is doing things the right way, that I'm not canning you just because you're going 7-3/6-4/5-5, or even an occassional dip to 3-7/2-8. It's just a personal belief. So I wouldn't get rid of him.

But if you're looking at the Union program as a fan, here's what you've seen transpire in the recent years:

1983-1991- Nationaly elite, occasional title contender
1992-2001- Regional power, occasionally on national radar
2002-2009- Rarely on national radar, increasingly mediocre
2010-2014- Mediocre to bad, unable to win outside own conference

I mean, those are three pretty big steps back, all under the same coach. How could you blame supporters of the program for wanting answers to how Union is approaching football?

[Bartman]

Any news on Audino? Looks like Bagnoli is going to move fast at Columbia and said he already had some of the staff lined up and will make announcements very soon. Comments on Columbia Football blog says Audino should have been offered the HC job at CU years ago and would love to get him as OC. What is a bigger challenge,turning around a couple of sub par years at Union or the worst football program in the country with a trusted colleague? My money is on Bagnoli and I wouldn't blame Audino for the move.

[Bartman]

Marpet has moved up to 80th overall in pre-draft rankings. Doesn't mean anything until the actual draft, but he is handling the attention well and is a great representative for D3 Football

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2015/OG

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2381069-how-ali-marpet-went-from-d3-football-to-flying-up-nfl-draft-boards

[jknezek]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

[Bartman]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

The scouts say he has progressed from WhittFoot to FleetofFoot

[ITH radio]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

I don't think that was actually Marpet.

[lewdogg11]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

I don't think that was actually Marpet.

Correct.  It was the roommate of the cousin of one of the players who had a relative at Whittenberger.

[Jonny Utah]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

I don't think that was actually Marpet.

Correct.  It was the roommate of the cousin of one of the players who had a relative at Whittenberger.

Exactly.  I mean, those posts had the textbook markings of a sockpuppet account.  Hobart.edu account, "random person" from another area who could not be traced to Hobart, knowledge of the actual game/school Hobart played, Hype of a person in the form of a question "did you see what this guy did?".

There is no way that was someone else.

[Pat Coleman]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

I don't think that was actually Marpet.

Correct.  It was the roommate of the cousin of one of the players who had a relative at Whittenberger.

Exactly.  I mean, those posts had the textbook markings of a sockpuppet account.  Hobart.edu account, "random person" from another area who could not be traced to Hobart, knowledge of the actual game/school Hobart played, Hype of a person in the form of a question "did you see what this guy did?".

There is no way that was someone else.

Well, it certainly could have been a roommate or a teammate trying to mess with him.

[Jonny Utah]

I like to think his handling of the "Whittfoot" moment was a valuable learning experience.   

I don't think that was actually Marpet.

Correct.  It was the roommate of the cousin of one of the players who had a relative at Whittenberger.

Exactly.  I mean, those posts had the textbook markings of a sockpuppet account.  Hobart.edu account, "random person" from another area who could not be traced to Hobart, knowledge of the actual game/school Hobart played, Hype of a person in the form of a question "did you see what this guy did?".

There is no way that was someone else.

Well, it certainly could have been a roommate or a teammate trying to mess with him.

I'd say it's doubtful.  First it's not really funny and doesn't make much sense as a joke, secondly, would a friend coincidently find his way into the d3footbsll.com message boards to ask a question like that? And then why would the friend even care about deleting it after getting called out?

I say Marpet wanted to see what people were saying about him so he did what he did.  I actually had a chance to ask a kid who played for hobart last year, but I figured it was too silly to even bring up.  It's over.