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[Knightstalker]

Come on U89-
It's disgusting that they settled, however, in the end what other alternatives did this family have?  If they filed a civil suit after the fact, they would have gotten the same amount and then had their lawyers take 70% away in fees.

Either way, they wouldn't have given the DS any additional jail time.

Read an article, part of the reason is the 15 year old daughter wanted it to just end.  They are trying to get on with their lives, who are any of us to question them and their decision, they need to live with what happened.

[union89]

Come on U89-
It's disgusting that they settled, however, in the end what other alternatives did this family have?  If they filed a civil suit after the fact, they would have gotten the same amount and then had their lawyers take 70% away in fees.

Either way, they wouldn't have given the DS any additional jail time.

Read an article, part of the reason is the 15 year old daughter wanted it to just end.  They are trying to get on with their lives, who are any of us to question them and their decision, they need to live with what happened.

Bull.....they did it for a cash settlement.  If Stallworth didn't have millions of dollars to pay off the family, do you think this 15 year old girl would have been given the direction to let the driver walk after 30 days?

Come on folks.......

[SaintsFAN]

Come on U89-
It's disgusting that they settled, however, in the end what other alternatives did this family have?  If they filed a civil suit after the fact, they would have gotten the same amount and then had their lawyers take 70% away in fees.

Either way, they wouldn't have given the DS any additional jail time.

Read an article, part of the reason is the 15 year old daughter wanted it to just end.  They are trying to get on with their lives, who are any of us to question them and their decision, they need to live with what happened.

Bull.....they did it for a cash settlement.  If Stallworth didn't have millions of dollars to pay off the family, do you think this 15 year old girl would have been given the direction to let the driver walk after 30 days?

Come on folks.......

Personally, the way I was raised wouldn't allow me to think like this.  I'd be very hesitant in having to assign a value to a family member's life. 

[union89]

Must listen YouTube clips.....please go in and search, 'artie lange on chris russo 1'.

This is a 4 part interview which revolves around Artie's appearance on the Joe Buck Show.....Joe Buck comes on in the last segment.

[labart96]

How does someone who kills someone only have to spend a month in jail but Vick had to spend YEARS in jail for his offenses?  Our society is messed up...

Don't f*ck with the Feds.  Vick thought he could lie his way out, like it was no big deal.  He should have thought of who his associates were (posse). They dropped dime in a second.  Feds don't like being messed with.

Had he come clean right away with the law and the Falcons (showing true remorse), he'd have kept most of his wealth and might have got at most 90 days (probably probation). And would be playing.

30 days for killing someone is also screwed up, but it was local, not federal. For many, cruelty to animals has more importance that a human life.

JT is spot on about the Feds.  Sentencing Guidelines give them little leeway after someone gets indictied like Vick did.

The other major difference between these two crimes is the intent.  Courts look at drunk driving (1st offense ones) differently than they would intentional crimes (hurting animals or robberies).

KS heard a guy on ESPN radio this morning talking about this.  Stallworth cooperated from the beginning, did not drive away and accepted guilt all along.  The big difference is he could afford to pay lawyers to work for him full time to handle this.  It was also said that the prosecuter and judge showed leniency because of his acceptance of guilt and his his attitude.

They also discussed Vick and the federal judge was ready to work a very lenient deal but like JT posted Vick screwed up and lied to the prosecuter and judge so they threw the book at him.

Does anyone know the penalty for DUI vehicular manslaughter in FL?

paging counselor frank the tank rossi...paging counselor frank the tank rossi...

speaking is he even on the LLPP anymore? been ages since he's seen/heard from...has the tank gone the way of the pet rock?

The tank has become a Facebook addict.

['gro]

someone may have posted this before but I thought this was hilarious...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfxCnZ4Dp3c

[union89]

press release for the new LL members

http://rpiathletics.com/news/2009/6/16/GEN_0616094658.aspx

Honestly, not trying to be funny here......
After high school, U89 PG'd at Worcester Academy for 1 year.  There were 2 openly homosexual students who both early decisioned Bard College.....U89 had never really heard of the place, but was told at the time by someone that Bard was very 'accepting' of this type situation.

[Jonny Utah]

Come on U89-
It's disgusting that they settled, however, in the end what other alternatives did this family have?  If they filed a civil suit after the fact, they would have gotten the same amount and then had their lawyers take 70% away in fees.

Either way, they wouldn't have given the DS any additional jail time.

Read an article, part of the reason is the 15 year old daughter wanted it to just end.  They are trying to get on with their lives, who are any of us to question them and their decision, they need to live with what happened.

Bull.....they did it for a cash settlement.  If Stallworth didn't have millions of dollars to pay off the family, do you think this 15 year old girl would have been given the direction to let the driver walk after 30 days?

Come on folks.......

Im going to bet the district attorney didn't drop the case because a 15 year old wanted to drop the case.  I know some states wont press charges unless the victim (or victims family in this case wants them to), but are we sure there isn't more to this case?  I only read the basics of this case, but did do a little research in massachusetts regarding this crime.  Its actually kind of interesting.

motor vehicle homicide has 3 factors,

1-driving drunk
2-driving recklessly
3-driving negligently

If you drive and kill someone while drunk but werent driving recklessly or negligent, then it is a misdemeanor, and the max penalty is 2.5 years in the house, with a min of 30 days.

If you drive and kill someone while drunk and were reckless or negligent, then it is a felony and the max is 15 years in state prison, with a min of 2.5 years.

Plus in Massachusetts it isn't up to the victim to decide whether or not to press charges, it is up to the police and then the DA.

[met_fan]

Anyone see Joe Buck get owned by Artie Lange on HBO.  Watch before HBO deletes it.  Cursing NSFW.  Word is Joe Buck came into the greenroom trying to be cute and telling Artie ( a professional comedian ) not to suck.  Like waving a red cape in front of a bull.  Well Artie kicked his Costas wannabe azz.

http://uk.video.yahoo.com/watch/5309607

Does professional comedian = rhyming Romo with h@mo?  That's some grade-A material.

[labart96]

Re: Bard

TGP could be incorrect - this happens regularly especially if you ask Mrs. TGP - but Bard was a women's college (sister school to Columbia U before they went co-ed).

Regardless as stated before - kind of a "who cares" with regards to RIT and BC given neither have football programs.  Maybe D3 bb and other programs would have a different view, but that's TGP's .02.

[PBR...]

will never be as good as the original .....WOLVERINES!!

LOS ANGELES, June 17 (UPI) -- Josh Peck and Adrianne Palicki have signed on to
star in the upcoming U.S. re-make of the adventure drama "Red Dawn," MGM and
United Artists said.
The Hollywood Reporter said the movie, which is about a group of American high-
school students fighting for survival after their town is invaded by Chinese
and Russian soldiers, is slated to start shooting in September.
Chris Hemsworth was previously cast in the remake.
The 1984 film starred Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen, Jennifer Grey, C. Thomas
Howell and Lea Thompson.
The entertainment industry trade newspaper said Peck from TV's "Drake & Josh,"
Palicki from "Friday Night Lights" and Hemsworth from "Star Trek" will play the
characters originated by Sheen, Grey and Swayze respectively.
The new version of the picture is to be released in U.S. theaters Sept. 24,
2010.

[Knightstalker]

Come on U89-
It's disgusting that they settled, however, in the end what other alternatives did this family have?  If they filed a civil suit after the fact, they would have gotten the same amount and then had their lawyers take 70% away in fees.

Either way, they wouldn't have given the DS any additional jail time.

Read an article, part of the reason is the 15 year old daughter wanted it to just end.  They are trying to get on with their lives, who are any of us to question them and their decision, they need to live with what happened.

Bull.....they did it for a cash settlement.  If Stallworth didn't have millions of dollars to pay off the family, do you think this 15 year old girl would have been given the direction to let the driver walk after 30 days?

Come on folks.......

Im going to bet the district attorney didn't drop the case because a 15 year old wanted to drop the case.  I know some states wont press charges unless the victim (or victims family in this case wants them to), but are we sure there isn't more to this case?  I only read the basics of this case, but did do a little research in massachusetts regarding this crime.  Its actually kind of interesting.

motor vehicle homicide has 3 factors,

1-driving drunk
2-driving recklessly
3-driving negligently

If you drive and kill someone while drunk but werent driving recklessly or negligent, then it is a misdemeanor, and the max penalty is 2.5 years in the house, with a min of 30 days.

If you drive and kill someone while drunk and were reckless or negligent, then it is a felony and the max is 15 years in state prison, with a min of 2.5 years.

Plus in Massachusetts it isn't up to the victim to decide whether or not to press charges, it is up to the police and then the DA.

This is the article I read earlier. The defense attorney and FL State Attorney give the reasons for the plea deal.  This also outlines the entire sentence.  What also may have been a factor is the fact that the man that got hit ran into the street in the middle of the block trying to catch a bus and there were witnesses to that fact.  I am not excusing Stallworth at all, but all the facts need to be examined and it seems that most outlets and people are not seeing all the facts.

[union89]

Come on U89-
It's disgusting that they settled, however, in the end what other alternatives did this family have?  If they filed a civil suit after the fact, they would have gotten the same amount and then had their lawyers take 70% away in fees.

Either way, they wouldn't have given the DS any additional jail time.

Read an article, part of the reason is the 15 year old daughter wanted it to just end.  They are trying to get on with their lives, who are any of us to question them and their decision, they need to live with what happened.

Bull.....they did it for a cash settlement.  If Stallworth didn't have millions of dollars to pay off the family, do you think this 15 year old girl would have been given the direction to let the driver walk after 30 days?

Come on folks.......

Im going to bet the district attorney didn't drop the case because a 15 year old wanted to drop the case.  I know some states wont press charges unless the victim (or victims family in this case wants them to), but are we sure there isn't more to this case?  I only read the basics of this case, but did do a little research in massachusetts regarding this crime.  Its actually kind of interesting.

motor vehicle homicide has 3 factors,

1-driving drunk
2-driving recklessly
3-driving negligently

If you drive and kill someone while drunk but werent driving recklessly or negligent, then it is a misdemeanor, and the max penalty is 2.5 years in the house, with a min of 30 days.

If you drive and kill someone while drunk and were reckless or negligent, then it is a felony and the max is 15 years in state prison, with a min of 2.5 years.

Plus in Massachusetts it isn't up to the victim to decide whether or not to press charges, it is up to the police and then the DA.

This is the article I read earlier. The defense attorney and FL State Attorney give the reasons for the plea deal.  This also outlines the entire sentence.

Not trying to be difficult here, but my take away is that he 'faced' 15 years.  The family accepted his money as a payoff in the death of their loved one.

Again, not blaming Stallworth at all for doing all he could to stay out of the clink.

[Pat Coleman]

Re: Bard

TGP could be incorrect - this happens regularly especially if you ask Mrs. TGP - but Bard was a women's college (sister school to Columbia U before they went co-ed).

You're thinking of Barnard.

['gro]

Re: Bard

TGP could be incorrect - this happens regularly especially if you ask Mrs. TGP - but Bard was a women's college (sister school to Columbia U before they went co-ed).

Regardless as stated before - kind of a "who cares" with regards to RIT and BC given neither have football programs.  Maybe D3 bb and other programs would have a different view, but that's TGP's .02.

Gro sees your point.  From a football standpoint you could look at it as "LL doesn't invite Ithaca or Alfred, etc."  What will the bombers and saxons do now that the E8 is looking deader than fried chicken?