FB: Liberty League

[Jonny Utah]

Never mind.  Albany lost to Northeastern 51-0 in 2002.

But I see in 1997 Albany only beat AIC by a touchdown in the EFC championship game.  We crushed AIC the same year.  Purple P*****s.

Then again I dont think AIC had Galliard in that game.  Im rambling, sorry.

[AUPepBand]

With all the talk of Albany State, Pep recalled back in 1975 when Heywood Hale Broun of CBS-TV came to Mayberry to do a feature on Alfred's legendary coach, Alex Yunevich. So happened that the day Broun was at Merrill Field, the Saxons were hosting Albany State, with the Purple Great Danes getting the best of Pep's Purple Saxons, 19-13.

In looking that up on Albany's Media Guide, Pep saw the 1997 record of the Danes that included the 54-0 thumping at Union, and the one-TD win over American International. Looking at the rest of that 1997 Albany schedule, it appears they averaged 40+ points per game and annihilated several teams after a season-opening 33-26 loss to Central Conn, including 42-0 over Sacred (Broken) Heart, 49-0 over St. Lawrence, 44-7 over CW Post, 42-3 over Merrimack, 48-14 over Pace...and 54-0 over Union.

The 27-20 win over American International was in the EFC Championship game held at Springfield, MA.

Pep just thought y'all would want to know all of those random facts....like this one time at Band Camp...

Incidentally, Union had handed an undefeated (4-0) Albany a 23-6 at the Dane's Homecoming game the previous year when the Danes went on to finish at 7-3. Perhaps the Danes had a score to settle?

['gro]

Ahhh yes, gro remembers Union getting stomped by Albany in 1997 and while it brought the young engineer some enjoyment... part of me was thinking, "why did they keep Albany on the schedule since they were moving up". Not sure if they were II or I-AA at the time but they definitely had a different pool of players on their team than a traditional DIII school like Union.  Not to matter, since RPI beat Union that year on 86 Field and that's when the rivalry became very evenly matched and heated.

Gro understands the whole "not much of a rivalry" thing from Union's perspective towards RPI.  Gro never thought much of the RPI/WPI game the way he thought of Union, Hobart, or... wait for it... Hartwick. We had some battles against Hartwick, always the week after Union, and learned to hate them at the same level as the Dutchmen.

It's safe to say that the core of the LL: RPI, Union, Hobart, Rochester, and St. Lawrence (the old UCAA) is basically an ongoing rivalry.

[JT]

Good news for LLPP'ers.  Study shows staring at boobs 10 minutes a day as good as 30 minutes of exercise:

http://www.javno.com/en-lifestyle/staring-at-breasts-is-a-workout_276715

Gotta be BS JT.... otherwise I'd be in much better shape.

JT would say that you aren't giving a 100%.

[JT]

Rowan beat 1AA Albany twice in the late 90's. 38-37 in 1999 and 31-3 in 2000.

[maxpower]

Rowan beat 1AA Albany twice in the late 90's. 38-37 in 1999 and 31-3 in 2000.

So.... once in the late 90's.....

[JT]

Rowan beat 1AA Albany twice in the late 90's. 38-37 in 1999 and 31-3 in 2000.

So.... once in the late 90's.....

Its easier to couple it in one decade given it was 99-00. 

[labart96]

It's safe to say that the core of the LL: RPI, Union, Hobart, Rochester, and St. Lawrence (the old UCAA) is basically an ongoing rivalry.

100%. 

Bart has played these guys 52, 92, 101 and 81 times, respectively; so yeah, ongoing is pretty much right on.

[Doid23]

Prior to 2003, the last night game in which Union participated was in 1994 at SUNY-Albany.

dlip used to love back in the day when U used to annually take out Albany ST. He actually thinks he may have detested Albany (at the time) more that RPI (Albany was much more competitive during those years than RPI) which may be hard to believe. dlip will never forget or forgive the Danes for running up the score against Union in their last meeting. Sporting a D1/2 size roster in November of 1997 Albany 54 Union 0. Ford was classless running up the score and passing all over the Dutch to their 8 foot TE. dlip never walked away from a Union game so pissed in his life. If Bob Ford was in front of him after that game that stupid hat he wears would have been properly placed! As dlip recalls Albany starters never left the field. All kidding aside that was a rivalry to remember.

Dlip, No doubt, Union-Albany was a ridiculously intense rivalry. Most of the games were night games, and some pretty intense crowds. The fact that many of the Union Coaches (Bagnoli, Audino, Priore, Toop, Fogerty, etc.) coached at Albany before coming to Union in the early 80's (turning the program around), it basically took it to a whole new level.  Add onto that the state school-private school factor, the fact that a lot of the kids played against each other (or on the same team) in high school, proximity, etc, and it was a perfect brew for a rivalry. I agree with Frank, Bob Ford was as classy as they come, but had started to become "Bobby Bowden" by the late 90's, but still a bitter pill when I heard about them running up the score. Too much mutual respect for that to ever happen in the '80's.

As for RPI-Union, The Shoes Game was basically a non event, just wasn't competitive. I remember when I was coaching, was scouting another game so missed the game (1987 or 1988), and called in to find out that Union had lost to RPI, was absolutely stunned, couldn't even comprehend that it was a possibility. Obviously a lot has changed, and very glad to see over the past twenty years that it has regained it's relevance, especially given the history.

[dewcrew88]

New column is up!

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2009/Parity+has+already+hit+some+contenders

[Frank Rossi]

New column is up!

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2009/Parity+has+already+hit+some+contenders

Yes... and I stopped reading after the second mention of Utica in the first 368 words... Faggiano is doing a nice job and all, but there are probably another 30 teams in the mini-region.  Once they complete an upset, it's warranted.  I barely talked about the Union/Rochester game on "ITH" Sunday night beyond the normal rundown in "Around the League" because it's not necessarily something to promote when Union nearly loses to Rochester in a season that isn't supposed to be strong for the Yellowjackets... Ya know?

[dewcrew88]

Isn't that what parity is all about? I think I did pretty good getting many teams involved.

[Frank Rossi]

Isn't that what parity is all about? I think I did pretty good getting many teams involved.

They're 2-2 (0-1 E8)... And beat two very low teams.  Yes, they've been competitive, but let's remember that Utica has beaten RPI in the past and almost beaten them on 1 or 2 other occasions -- and the team can't hold onto early leads yet, which concerns me since Faggiano is a defensive specialist.  I'm not sure that's pointing to parity yet -- like I said, complete an upset, and then write up a nice note about them after your Utica/RPI coverage last week.

[union89]

New column is up!

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/east/2009/Parity+has+already+hit+some+contenders

Thanks for picking against Union again.....here's to you being 0 'fer 2 in those prognostications.

[union89]

Prior to 2003, the last night game in which Union participated was in 1994 at SUNY-Albany.

dlip used to love back in the day when U used to annually take out Albany ST. He actually thinks he may have detested Albany (at the time) more that RPI (Albany was much more competitive during those years than RPI) which may be hard to believe. dlip will never forget or forgive the Danes for running up the score against Union in their last meeting. Sporting a D1/2 size roster in November of 1997 Albany 54 Union 0. Ford was classless running up the score and passing all over the Dutch to their 8 foot TE. dlip never walked away from a Union game so pissed in his life. If Bob Ford was in front of him after that game that stupid hat he wears would have been properly placed! As dlip recalls Albany starters never left the field. All kidding aside that was a rivalry to remember.

Dlip, No doubt, Union-Albany was a ridiculously intense rivalry. Most of the games were night games, and some pretty intense crowds. The fact that many of the Union Coaches (Bagnoli, Audino, Priore, Toop, Fogerty, etc.) coached at Albany before coming to Union in the early 80's (turning the program around), it basically took it to a whole new level.  Add onto that the state school-private school factor, the fact that a lot of the kids played against each other (or on the same team) in high school, proximity, etc, and it was a perfect brew for a rivalry. I agree with Frank, Bob Ford was as classy as they come, but had started to become "Bobby Bowden" by the late 90's, but still a bitter pill when I heard about them running up the score. Too much mutual respect for that to ever happen in the '80's.

As for RPI-Union, The Shoes Game was basically a non event, just wasn't competitive. I remember when I was coaching, was scouting another game so missed the game (1987 or 1988), and called in to find out that Union had lost to RPI, was absolutely stunned, couldn't even comprehend that it was a possibility. Obviously a lot has changed, and very glad to see over the past twenty years that it has regained it's relevance, especially given the history.

Doid is wise......Doid is also very old, is very hairy and has a giant head, but.....

Doid is wise...........