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[SaintsFAN]

never played a day of organized beisbol in my life...

Yeah, the kids with no coordination always skipped baseball and played Spring Soccer or threw shotput or something.

Or rode his bike through Jackson's Garden....wweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......

piano lessons?

never played a day of organized beisbol in my life...

Seriously?  SF didn't think this was possible in America 

[PBR...]

RPI has an Billion+ dollar endowment so they can afford to do that. 

Keep in mind that all of HWS' fall programs (which along with football number ~10 other men's and women's programs - not including the "fall ball" for lax either) are all removing themselves from the ECACs (at least those that could participate in them).

The explanation on the Hobart side is the school is running a deficit this year (based on endowment losses and having come in under-yield on the fall fy class) and so all departments - athletics included - have to cut back.  It's not that they don't see the value in the ECACs, the school just simply can't afford to participate in them this season.  Yeah, kind of amazing given the $50K/yr price tag, but for tuition dependent schools like Hobart, it's the reality.

I think the decision is truly financial and has nothing to do with "not wanting to go the extra mile", but I get your point. 

I imagine other schools may decide that the extra $5, 10, or 20k (whatever a game "costs") could be better utilized on things like keeping an asst professor on staff, scholarship funds for another semester or cover other base costs of running the school vs. adding another football game.

Either way, it sucks.  Especially when the cut-backs directly affect the students.

maybe 'bart can borrow some $$$ from amherst they just got a windfall today...

     Nov. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Amherst College received pledges from
two alumni for gifts of $100 million and $25 million, the
largest in the history of the liberal arts college.
      The gifts from the alumni, who asked to remain anonymous,
are "symbolic and real statements" of support for the
college's priorities and mission, said Anthony Marx, president
of the school in Amherst, Massachusetts. The donations come amid
a $425 million fundraising campaign that began in October 2008.
The school aims to enhance financial aid, hire more faculty and
renovate existing facilities and build new ones with the money,
Marx said.
     Both gifts will be paid over five years and will provide
unrestricted operating funds for the school at a time when
Amherst's endowment value is down 23 percent from a year ago to
$1.31 billion, after investment losses of 20 percent.
     "Both of these individuals saw the need to make a clear
statement at this moment," Marx said in an interview. "People
will need to step up to support quality higher education and
access to it in the United States."

['gro]

never played a day of organized beisbol in my life...

Yeah, the kids with no coordination always skipped baseball and played Spring Soccer or threw shotput or something.

Or rode his bike through Jackson's Garden....wweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......

Hey now, shot put and discus take coordination... well, mostly the discus.

Now, riding your bike around frank bailey field then down to jackson's garden, that was for fun.  Weeeeeeeeee!

[labart96]

endowment is down to "only" $1.31 B.

wah.

f-ing Lord Jeffs.

['gro]

Seriously?  SF didn't think this was possible in America 

Some kids don't play any organized sports at all, that's bizzare to groseph. But yes, there are a few kids that never picked up a bat outside of gym class. Soccer, basketball (no skills), football, and track & field (minus the track of course) were gro's sports of choice.

[union89]

Soccer & Basketball w/ no skills?

I thought I knew you somewhat....I guess our only similarity is that we both like Miller Lite.

['gro]

Soccer & Basketball w/ no skills?

I thought I knew you somewhat....I guess our only similarity is that we both like Miller Lite.

maybe at the next shoes game you will enjoy a bicycle kick to the temple... after a few miller lite's.

[Frank Rossi]

Soccer & Basketball w/ no skills?

I thought I knew you somewhat....I guess our only similarity is that we both like Miller Lite.

maybe at the next shoes game you will enjoy a bicycle kick to the temple... after a few miller lite's.

3G3, please refrain from such violence on my good friend U89! 






(Try a Boston Crab move followed by a Leaping Lanny Poffo move off the turnbuckle.  Much better violence that way.)

[union89]

Soccer & Basketball w/ no skills?

I thought I knew you somewhat....I guess our only similarity is that we both like Miller Lite.

maybe at the next shoes game you will enjoy a bicycle kick to the temple... after a few miller lite's.

+K

[Frank Rossi]

New Regional Rankings:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2009/11/04/ncaa-regional-rankings-take-2/

Curry and Maine Maritime leap Union, which falls to 10th after a victory.

[Frank Rossi]

Let me be clear about one issue that crept up in a discussion I had with Guru yesterday.  It does not matter if the order of bracketing in the "East" bracket is #7 NEFC Team/#8 Union or #7 Union/#8 NEFC team.  Union is 487.0 miles from Mount Union based on NCAA calculations.  Springfield, Curry and Maine Maritime are all >500 miles and would require a flight.  The NCAA mandates that the Committee minimize First Round flights, meaning that seedings would not control in the Union/NEFC situation.  

Therefore, assuming Mount Union is at the top of the "East" bracket and Union is #7 or #8 with the NEFC team or Springfield sitting in the other position, Union would be sent to Alliance in the First Round.  Just wanted to clarify this for those wondering how this works.

[EDIT:  No slight to Susquehanna on this post.  The same would be true for the Crusaders, assuming the NCAA put them in the "East" bracket.  I focused on Union because of the mileage concern -- Susquehanna is much closer to Alliance, obviously, and this would become an even more erlcome scenario for the Committee based on the geography.]

[JQV]

In light of the continuing discussion about the way the NCAA creates the D3 playoff field I have to ask this:

Can D3 really claim some moral superiority over D1 because "everything is settled on the field" if the method for settling everything "on the field" is so skewed?

I mean, if they build the brackets based, in large part, on saving money, why is that so much better than the bowl system that is built, in large part, to make money?

[lewdogg11]

In light of the continuing discussion about the way the NCAA creates the D3 playoff field I have to ask this:

Can D3 really claim some moral superiority over D1 because "everything is settled on the field" if the method for settling everything "on the field" is so skewed?

I mean, if they build the brackets based, in large part, on saving money, why is that so much better than the bowl system that is built, in large part, to make money?

Because no matter when they play whom, 32 teams get a crack at winning the National Championship.  Are the best 4 teams ALWAYS in the the final 4?  No.  Are the best 2 teams ALWAYS in the final 2?  No.  Does the best team usually win?  Yes.

[Pat Coleman]

And, more importantly, does the best team have an opportunity to play for the title?

In D-III this is undoubtedly the case. In the BCS ... well, you know the rest.

[JQV]

Because no matter when they play whom, 32 teams get a crack at winning the National Championship.  Are the best 4 teams ALWAYS in the the final 4?  No.  Are the best 2 teams ALWAYS in the final 2?  No.  Does the best team usually win?  Yes.

Why is 32 teams, cramming meaningful games in over a couple of weeks at the end of the season better than the FBS system where they play meaningful games throughout the season?

And, more importantly, does the best team have an opportunity to play for the title?

In D-III this is undoubtedly the case. In the BCS ... well, you know the rest.

Why is that "undoubtedly" the case?  If the NCAA and the schools won't spring for inter-regional competition, how do we know?  How is that any more exact than the BCS?