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[lewdogg11]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

Don't talk about the Yankees like that! 
Don't you know they talk baseball ALL year on the radio in NY?

[dlippiel]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

Don't talk about the Yankees like that!  
Don't you know they talk baseball ALL year on the radio in NY?

Here we go, let the ****in whinning begin, Terd Dogg isn't ****ing happy....blah...blah...blah

[SaintsFAN]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

Dlip,

Yankee money comes from having the luxury of being 12 miles north of the financial capital of the world.  Its not the same anywhere else.  Congrats to the Yanks... and SF agrees with LD --- its NOT a level playing field, but Yanks are playing that field better than everyone else is.

[dlippiel]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

Dlip,

Yankee money comes from having the luxury of being 12 miles north of the financial capital of the world.  Its not the same anywhere else.  Congrats to the Yanks... and SF agrees with LD --- its NOT a level playing field, but Yanks are playing that field better than everyone else is.

Dude this is common knowledge, of course it's not fair, dlip never said it was. However there are plenty of Big Market cities, with money, that don't have the fan base, support, and interest of the Yanks. Why don;t the ****in Mets win year in and year out? All dlip is saying is the ****ing complaining about the Yanks is ild and tired and com****ingpletely unorigional. If Terd Dogg feels dlip is whinning because he can't ****ing stand anti-yankee whinners than so be it. dlip doesn't have to take his ****.

[lewdogg11]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

Dlip,

Yankee money comes from having the luxury of being 12 miles north of the financial capital of the world.  Its not the same anywhere else.  Congrats to the Yanks... and SF agrees with LD --- its NOT a level playing field, but Yanks are playing that field better than everyone else is.

Dude this is common knowledge, of course it's not fair, dlip never said it was. However there are plenty of Big Market cities, with money, that don't have the fan base, support, and interest of the Yanks. Why don;t the ****in Mets win year in and year out? All dlip is saying is the ****ing complaining about the Yanks is ild and tired and com****ingpletely unorigional. If Terd Dogg feels dlip is whinning because he can't ****ing stand anti-yankee whinners than so be it. dlip doesn't have to take his ****.

Hey Dlip, can you take this for me?

[dlippiel]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

Dlip,

Yankee money comes from having the luxury of being 12 miles north of the financial capital of the world.  Its not the same anywhere else.  Congrats to the Yanks... and SF agrees with LD --- its NOT a level playing field, but Yanks are playing that field better than everyone else is.

Dude this is common knowledge, of course it's not fair, dlip never said it was. However there are plenty of Big Market cities, with money, that don't have the fan base, support, and interest of the Yanks. Why don;t the ****in Mets win year in and year out? All dlip is saying is the ****ing complaining about the Yanks is ild and tired and com****ingpletely unorigional. If Terd Dogg feels dlip is whinning because he can't ****ing stand anti-yankee whinners than so be it. dlip doesn't have to take his ****.

Hey Dlip, can you take this for me?

No thanks Dude, keep it for the next ****in person you disagree with  

[lewdogg11]

Right back atcha big guy...

[PBR...]

Everyone buys players, dlip gets so ****in annoyed with the whinning about the Yanks. Please, nothing is a fair playing field in sports. The Yanks money comes from revenue as a result of team interest, fan base, and mother****ers that are willing to pay because the game means more to them, it's a higher priority. ****, listen to NY Sports talk radio, they talk abaseball almost 12 months of the year. If you can charge that much for a ticket and people pay it who is to blame? Both parties actually but still if people are willing to spend the type of $ in these big markets it represents their passion for the game and their team. This Yanks team had cohesion, cosistency, character, steroids (of course all teams do today, and talent and thats why they won. They buying the team argument is old, tired and piss poor bitching.

when you add 1 or 2 players via free agency/trade like all but 1 team does is 1 thing when you sign 7/8 of your team as free agents and w/ blank checks its another....wandering how many more pirates and indians will be on the yankme's roster next year? must be nice to have that big a farm system...


EDIT: must be nice to have a 16 team farm system....

[PBR...]

The Phillies have not yet decided whether to offer a contract extension to pitcher Cliff Lee this off-season, but they have discussed the possibility internally.

Discussed it internally? How long should that conversation take? Seriously, did they see the rest of their starting pitchers? I'd like to be Cliff Lee right now, that's for sure.

they dont want to break up the entire nucleus of the team to pay 1 player...they dont have yankme money after all...

[PBR...]

gro could not sleep last night and was flipping through the channels around midnight and saw a bunch of guys in white pajamas with blue stripes yelling and celebrating like they won something... anyone catch that? Mr. Fergusen? 

Yeah I saw it.  It was amazing how genuine they tried made the celebration look.  About 4 were genuine, the rest are posers.

That is rich coming from a Bahston fan.  C'mon LewDoggie, you guys are one in the same.  Nobody is fooling anybody else here.  Let the offseason sweepstakes begin!!

1 WS in 10 years after spending BILLIONS of dollars.  I'd be more embarrassed to be a fan than anything.

That's why they play the games.  Titles aren't guaranteed.  Actually, this team was more like the Yankees of the 90's than any other Yankee team since 2001.

Because they were the highest paid team in the league?  Or because they actually won the world series this year?

Because they have players that add to team chemistry, instead of detract from it.

because they cant develop their own talent they buy everyone else's....capitalism at its finest...they have made over 1/2 of mlb's teams their minor league and let everyone else draft well and develop talent then buy up whoever is good...shame mlb owners cant see the problem, would of been much smarter to take the nfl model long ago....

Actually, the Yankees have been very deliberate in developing their farm system the past few years.  Melky Cabrera, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Robinson Cano, Brett Gardner are all farm developed, and all contributed to this championship.  And without Phil Hughes setting up for Mariano, the Yankees don't sniff the WS in 2009.

Yeah, and most of those guys had nothing to do with winning the world series.  (i.e. - See ARod, Texeira, Sabathia)

Who were the 2 biggest FA's last year?  Both are on the Yankees.  Whatever.  Kudos to them.  But if you want to say it's a fair playing field, it's not.

Nick Swisher on the other hand...That was a legit move.  I like him, and think he actually earns his paycheck.

thank you terd ferguson!! who is the last everday player the yankme's have starting in the field for them? jeter? posada? these guys are all older than dirt....the yankme's have found its much easier to just go out w/ a open checkbook and sign all the top free agents opposed to dumping money in their own farm system where there are no guarantees...signing all the top free agents is guaranteed because these guys have all proven themselves over time...why give crazy bonus money to some kid coming out of high school or college? take that money and spend it on a top free agent from all the other teams in the market...not hard to see

[Yanks 99]

gro could not sleep last night and was flipping through the channels around midnight and saw a bunch of guys in white pajamas with blue stripes yelling and celebrating like they won something... anyone catch that? Mr. Fergusen? 

Yeah I saw it.  It was amazing how genuine they tried made the celebration look.  About 4 were genuine, the rest are posers.

That is rich coming from a Bahston fan.  C'mon LewDoggie, you guys are one in the same.  Nobody is fooling anybody else here.  Let the offseason sweepstakes begin!!

1 WS in 10 years after spending BILLIONS of dollars.  I'd be more embarrassed to be a fan than anything.

That's why they play the games.  Titles aren't guaranteed.  Actually, this team was more like the Yankees of the 90's than any other Yankee team since 2001.

Because they were the highest paid team in the league?  Or because they actually won the world series this year?

Because they have players that add to team chemistry, instead of detract from it.

because they cant develop their own talent they buy everyone else's....capitalism at its finest...they have made over 1/2 of mlb's teams their minor league and let everyone else draft well and develop talent then buy up whoever is good...shame mlb owners cant see the problem, would of been much smarter to take the nfl model long ago....

Actually, the Yankees have been very deliberate in developing their farm system the past few years.  Melky Cabrera, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Robinson Cano, Brett Gardner are all farm developed, and all contributed to this championship.  And without Phil Hughes setting up for Mariano, the Yankees don't sniff the WS in 2009.

Yeah, and most of those guys had nothing to do with winning the world series.  (i.e. - See ARod, Texeira, Sabathia)

Who were the 2 biggest FA's last year?  Both are on the Yankees.  Whatever.  Kudos to them.  But if you want to say it's a fair playing field, it's not.

Nick Swisher on the other hand...That was a legit move.  I like him, and think he actually earns his paycheck.

Yeah...cause the Red Sox have/had all home grown players throughout the years...like Josh Beckett, and Manny Ramirez, and Dice-K, and Billy Wagner, and Mike Lowell, and Rocco Baldelli, and Jason Bay, and JD Drew, and Hideki Okajima, and Tim Wakefield, and Jason Veritek, and David Ortiz...

Good thing none of these guys had anything to do with the Red Sox winning their titles...

[PBR...]

gro could not sleep last night and was flipping through the channels around midnight and saw a bunch of guys in white pajamas with blue stripes yelling and celebrating like they won something... anyone catch that? Mr. Fergusen? 

Yeah I saw it.  It was amazing how genuine they tried made the celebration look.  About 4 were genuine, the rest are posers.

That is rich coming from a Bahston fan.  C'mon LewDoggie, you guys are one in the same.  Nobody is fooling anybody else here.  Let the offseason sweepstakes begin!!

1 WS in 10 years after spending BILLIONS of dollars.  I'd be more embarrassed to be a fan than anything.

That's why they play the games.  Titles aren't guaranteed.  Actually, this team was more like the Yankees of the 90's than any other Yankee team since 2001.

Because they were the highest paid team in the league?  Or because they actually won the world series this year?

Because they have players that add to team chemistry, instead of detract from it.

because they cant develop their own talent they buy everyone else's....capitalism at its finest...they have made over 1/2 of mlb's teams their minor league and let everyone else draft well and develop talent then buy up whoever is good...shame mlb owners cant see the problem, would of been much smarter to take the nfl model long ago....

The core of the Yankees talent is homegrown.
Jeter
Posada
Rivera
Petite
Hughes
Cano
Cabrera
Robertson
Chamberlain

Yes they spent a Dlipload of money on free agents but they are playing within the rules and until Bud Selig and the rest of the good ol boys club change the rules it will remain this way.  They spent stupidly for several years but Cashman was able to convince George and the boys to let him do it his way and with the exception of Hank negotiating the Arod deal Cashman has built the team intellegently and for the long run.

They won't change the rules.  That would mean that certain teams would have to spend more money on their ballclubs.  Those owners would rather pocket the cash every year, then go into deficit to compete.

huh...so the pirates and yanks have the same revenue stream coming in? the pirates try competing w/ the yanks and sign 3 players for $250 million is probably more than their club is worth...being a business owner i hope you see the logic for them in not doing that....

[dlippiel]

God forbid someone ****in disaggrees with you Dogg...same ****in **** from you everyday.

[PBR...]

gro could not sleep last night and was flipping through the channels around midnight and saw a bunch of guys in white pajamas with blue stripes yelling and celebrating like they won something... anyone catch that? Mr. Fergusen? 

Yeah I saw it.  It was amazing how genuine they tried made the celebration look.  About 4 were genuine, the rest are posers.

That is rich coming from a Bahston fan.  C'mon LewDoggie, you guys are one in the same.  Nobody is fooling anybody else here.  Let the offseason sweepstakes begin!!

1 WS in 10 years after spending BILLIONS of dollars.  I'd be more embarrassed to be a fan than anything.

That's why they play the games.  Titles aren't guaranteed.  Actually, this team was more like the Yankees of the 90's than any other Yankee team since 2001.

Because they were the highest paid team in the league?  Or because they actually won the world series this year?

Because they have players that add to team chemistry, instead of detract from it.

because they cant develop their own talent they buy everyone else's....capitalism at its finest...they have made over 1/2 of mlb's teams their minor league and let everyone else draft well and develop talent then buy up whoever is good...shame mlb owners cant see the problem, would of been much smarter to take the nfl model long ago....

Actually, the Yankees have been very deliberate in developing their farm system the past few years.  Melky Cabrera, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Robinson Cano, Brett Gardner are all farm developed, and all contributed to this championship.  And without Phil Hughes setting up for Mariano, the Yankees don't sniff the WS in 2009.

Yeah, and most of those guys had nothing to do with winning the world series.  (i.e. - See ARod, Texeira, Sabathia)

Who were the 2 biggest FA's last year?  Both are on the Yankees.  Whatever.  Kudos to them.  But if you want to say it's a fair playing field, it's not.

Nick Swisher on the other hand...That was a legit move.  I like him, and think he actually earns his paycheck.

Yeah...cause the Red Sox have/had all home grown players throughout the years...like Josh Beckett, and Manny Ramirez, and Dice-K, and Billy Wagner, and Mike Lowell, and Rocco Baldelli, and Jason Bay, and JD Drew, and Hideki Okajima, and Tim Wakefield, and Jason Veritek, and David Ortiz...

Good thing none of these guys had anything to do with the Red Sox winning their titles...

nice JD Drew no one likes him even his own teammates!! he is all about himself and his numbers just like billy wags!! phillies players were so glad when he went to the mets and became a cancer there is it coincedence the phils started winning the year wagner left? pbr says not...

[Jonny Utah]

gro could not sleep last night and was flipping through the channels around midnight and saw a bunch of guys in white pajamas with blue stripes yelling and celebrating like they won something... anyone catch that? Mr. Fergusen? 

Yeah I saw it.  It was amazing how genuine they tried made the celebration look.  About 4 were genuine, the rest are posers.

That is rich coming from a Bahston fan.  C'mon LewDoggie, you guys are one in the same.  Nobody is fooling anybody else here.  Let the offseason sweepstakes begin!!

1 WS in 10 years after spending BILLIONS of dollars.  I'd be more embarrassed to be a fan than anything.

That's why they play the games.  Titles aren't guaranteed.  Actually, this team was more like the Yankees of the 90's than any other Yankee team since 2001.

Because they were the highest paid team in the league?  Or because they actually won the world series this year?

Because they have players that add to team chemistry, instead of detract from it.

because they cant develop their own talent they buy everyone else's....capitalism at its finest...they have made over 1/2 of mlb's teams their minor league and let everyone else draft well and develop talent then buy up whoever is good...shame mlb owners cant see the problem, would of been much smarter to take the nfl model long ago....

Actually, the Yankees have been very deliberate in developing their farm system the past few years.  Melky Cabrera, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Robinson Cano, Brett Gardner are all farm developed, and all contributed to this championship.  And without Phil Hughes setting up for Mariano, the Yankees don't sniff the WS in 2009.

Yeah, and most of those guys had nothing to do with winning the world series.  (i.e. - See ARod, Texeira, Sabathia)

Who were the 2 biggest FA's last year?  Both are on the Yankees.  Whatever.  Kudos to them.  But if you want to say it's a fair playing field, it's not.

Nick Swisher on the other hand...That was a legit move.  I like him, and think he actually earns his paycheck.

Yeah...cause the Red Sox have/had all home grown players throughout the years...like Josh Beckett, and Manny Ramirez, and Dice-K, and Billy Wagner, and Mike Lowell, and Rocco Baldelli, and Jason Bay, and JD Drew, and Hideki Okajima, and Tim Wakefield, and Jason Veritek, and David Ortiz...

Good thing none of these guys had anything to do with the Red Sox winning their titles...

nice JD Drew no one likes him even his own teammates!! he is all about himself and his numbers just like billy wags!! phillies players were so glad when he went to the mets and became a cancer there is it coincedence the phils started winning the year wagner left? pbr says not...

1.  I don't think anyone is claiming the red sox winning the world series is  some major upset.  And we aren't being asked to have our asses patted as fans for cheering so hard for our team.

2. The Red Sox still had to beat the Yankees to get that world series.  And they did not have the advantage against that team or series.

3.  I don't think the Red Sox players hate JD Drew.  I think Drew is just kind of a loner who doesn't like to go rah rah and talk about everything.  I think he is overpaid.

4. Did someone mention Rocco Baldelli helping the Red Sox winning titles?

5.  We have to remember that its not just the "home grown talent", but its being able to actually pay that home grown talent once that contract comes around (See Jeter, Petite, Pedroia, Paplebon).  Clevleland cannot afford to keep the players they may have "grown".

6.  JT's arguement doesn't fly with me either.  Sure, if I had 50 billion dollars and bought the KC Royals, I would have 5-15 WS championships in 20 years.  If I already have the money, I dont need to sell tickets, cable channels, or Jerseys.  Of course if Im in a place like NY or Boston, I can make a few 100 million of those things becuase Im in a large area, with a lot of people, who care about being fans.

7. Farm systems can be about money as well.  Im sure the Yankees have 100 scouts with 100 milion dollars to sign kids compared to the Pirates 10 scouts and 5 million dollars to sign kids.  Its not like there is some baseball guru the Yankees have that knows so much more than everyone else and he picked Jeter, Rivera, Petite etc.  (Unless there is a guy out there and the Yankees put him on their payroll!)

We have said it time and time again.  The league is not on the level but fans dont care.  We will watch the "big 7" play in October.  Congradulations Yankess, you are the best out of 7 teams, and had the advantage over them anyway.

2004 Redsox?  Congrats to you too.  You were the best out of 7 teams as well.  And you only had the 2nd highest payroll to get there. (hope that makes people feel better)