FB: Liberty League

[maxpower]

1 of gro's fav coaches in troubling for hitting a player...btw some of the comments are hilarious...if a div I athlete cant outrun or manuevre mangino they dont deserve to be playing dI...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/mark-mangino-investigatio_n_361557.html

From his wiki:

A separate investigation was conducted in 2007 related to the coach's repeated parking tickets on campus and his verbal abuse and general behavior toward some of the campus staff that issued those tickets.

I think we can all understand that....

[labart96]

TGP is experiencing at least a level 2 (could morph into a level 4 since it's only 8:41 AM out here) this morning. 

For those who may need a refresher course:

Level of Hangovers are defined as:

Level 1
You're fine, you wake up with the usual symptoms of dry mouth and stank breath, but all and all you can function normally during the day.

Level 2
Did I really drink that much last night? Slight headache. Takes you longer to get out of bed. Nothing a ham and cheese omelet can't fix.

Level 3
I feel like crap, this is where you start sleeping through alarms, you're late for class/work. You're able to move throughout the day but everything is in slow motion.

Level 4
Surprise! Level 4 actually starts off like level 2, you wake up, feel decent, eat something, then BAM it hits and you take your breakfast for a swim in the toilet. You're calling in sick today (or its a weekend) and you spend the day on the couch watching maury povich and drinking water. Level 4's are beatable, which means you can still muster up the strength to go out again that night.

Level 5
You wake up, look at the clock, it's 3pm. You're probably not wearing clothes and there's a good chance you have a penis drawn on you somewhere. There's a half drank bottle of beer on your nightstand, and the smell immediately throws your digestive system into 'R'. You want to eat but nothing stays down. The room slowly spins on multiple axis. You tell yourself you'll never drink again.

Level 6
Total blackout from last night. Everything hurts. You can't stand, you can't go back to sleep, and you sure as hell can't eat anything. You don't even want to eat because opening your mouth makes you want to puke. TV makes your eyes burn, the radio sounds like there's a midget on a pogo stick in your brain. You are useless. You are in a virtual coma. Don't be surprised if you throw up 4-5 times today. The chances of your rallying from a 6 are slim.

Suggested amendment of the LoH Constitution:
Level 7

The old, I SHOULD be hungover, hangover (also known as the LewDogg amendment)

You drink 'rediculas' amounts, wake up in a bush somewhere with hot sauce glued to your chin.  Stumble into bed at 4am, sleep until noon.  Wake up fearing the worst, when you realize, there is no hangover!  It's as if your one good deed of the day plunged the poisonous spirits from your very soul.  You could quite possibly still be a little drunk, and you might, just might toss back a batch of Biscuits and Gravy followed by a box of twisted tea, and onto a Corona, followed by shots of Sambuca, before 4pm. 

(This hangover level has often been seen during bachelor parties, Cancun Spring Break trips, and 36 hour gambling binges...as if the body is properly prepared for the alcohol intake)

Level 8

Basically a Level 6 that weakens in to a level 3 the next day. Also known as the weekend killer.

[dewcrew88]

Last ATR of the season is up!

[dlippiel]

Last ATR of the season is up!

DC, great article as always, nice way to close the 09 ATE's. Nice predictions, however dlip would love to see the Crusaders give Del Val all they can handle but he honestly doesn't think they will make much noise against the East's best team. Yes dlip is saying Del Val is the East's best team. As he says that he keeps hearing ****in Wesley Wesley Wesley in the background reminding dlip how the East is just not there as of now.

[labart96]

Nice article.  I think you whiffed on Albright though.  The Lions finished 9-1 overall (only loss was to DelVal) not 8-2.

k+

[dewcrew88]

Nice article.  I think you whiffed on Albright though.  The Lions finished 9-1 overall (only loss was to DelVal) not 8-2.

k+

For dlip's sake! I did whiff. Thanks for the catch.

[SaintsFAN]

DC, great article as always, nice way to close the 09 ATE's. Nice predictions, however dlip would love to see the Crusaders give Del Val all they can handle but he honestly doesn't think they will make much noise against the East's best team. Yes dlip is saying Del Val is the East's best team. As he says that he keeps hearing ****in Wesley Wesley Wesley in the background reminding dlip how the East is just not there as of now.

dlip --- don't sell Delaware Valley short... they are probably physical enough to give Mount Union a run in the Quarters.  Whether or not they can finish that game is another story ---

[Yanks 99]

DC, great article as always, nice way to close the 09 ATE's. Nice predictions, however dlip would love to see the Crusaders give Del Val all they can handle but he honestly doesn't think they will make much noise against the East's best team. Yes dlip is saying Del Val is the East's best team. As he says that he keeps hearing ****in Wesley Wesley Wesley in the background reminding dlip how the East is just not there as of now.

dlip --- don't sell Delaware Valley short... they are probably physical enough to give Mount Union a run in the Quarters.  Whether or not they can finish that game is another story ---

Did you say a run for "a quarter"...that might make more sense.  No disrespect to DVC...but I would be floored if they keep the game under 4 TD's...

[pg04]

I think DVC is probably the only team that can keep it under 4 TDs.  I wouldn't be shocked at that. 

[SaintsFAN]

I think DVC is probably the only team that can keep it under 4 TDs.  I wouldn't be shocked at that. 

exactly... they definitely have MUC's respect.  Some are keeping an eye on them as the Quarterfinals opponent.

[PBR...]

I think DVC is probably the only team that can keep it under 4 TDs.  I wouldn't be shocked at that. 

exactly... they definitely have MUC's respect.  Some are keeping an eye on them as the Quarterfinals opponent.

if they get that far they will shock the world baby!!!! in reality would be interesting to see how well they do....they have played iona (div I-AA) that last couple of years and wesley and salisbury as well so they definetly wont be intimadated. obviously muc would be a heavy favorite but there is a reason they play the games....

[labart96]

File this under Stupid criminals

[PBR...]

interesting read and facts to back it up...would of posted link but someone sent me the whole story so being short on time pbr is cut and pasting it as well....


An Arkansas high school's motto: Just go for it!
By RALPH D. RUSSO
AP College Football Writer
Updated: 11/04/2009 08:41:03 PM EST

Pulaski Academy High School football coach Kevin Kelley works with his team in Little Rock, Ark., on Wednesday, Nov. 4, 2009. Virtually every time the Pulaski Academy Bruins face fourth down, the prep school team from Little Rock, Ark., goes for it. No matter the distance. And here's the thing - the strategy works. Coach Kelley and his Bruins won the state championship in Arkansas' second-largest classification last season and did not punt.

Virtually every time the Pulaski Academy Bruins face fourth down, the prep school team from Little Rock, Ark., goes for it. No matter the distance.
And here's the thing?the strategy works.

Coach Kevin Kelley and his Bruins won the state championship in Arkansas' third-largest classification last season and did not punt. This year, they are 7-2 with one punt?the other team was so surprised the ball went 51 yards with no return.

"I'm really a contrarian thinker. When everybody thinks something is going to happen it often times doesn't," Kelley said in a recent phone interview with the AP. "It's the same in football. When everybody thinks you should do something, maybe there's a better way."

The vast majority of college coaches wouldn't think for a second about bagging the kicking game (Pulaski has pretty much stopped trying field goals, too) and playing offense with all four downs, all the time.

"I'd get run out of Dodge," said Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis, who has been second-guessed for more than one fourth-down call.

Yet at least a couple of coaches were intrigued by the idea when they were told about the way Kelley coaches and the data behind his decision.

Texas Tech coach Mike Leach, who pretty much lives his life outside the box, said Kelley might be on to something.

"It's an interesting idea," Leach said. "Statistically, there's definitely some validity to it."

The NCAA has only been keeping statistics for fourth-down conversions since 2005 and the numbers don't reflect a significant change of philosophy by coaches on fourth-down during those seasons. Fourth down generally means kick, whether that's a field goal or punt.
But in this decade when offenses are better than ever?with yards and points piling up at record-breaking levels?coaches might want to rethink the same ol' way of playing.

Kelley said the inspiration for his unorthodox, though he will tell you totally sound, strategy was from a documentary he stumbled across on television a few years back.

Between the data he jotted down from the show and what he has collected from his own team's games over the years, he determined going for it on fourth down every time isn't risky at all. In fact, according to his numbers, he is playing the percentages?even in the most extreme circumstances.

Let's take an example.

According to his data, a team that takes over the ball at its opponent's 10 or closer has a 92 percent chance of scoring a touchdown. A team that gains possession between its opponent's 40-yard line and its 31 has a 77 percent chance of scoring a touchdown.

So, Kelley figures, even if the Bruins fail to convert, he is only increasing his opponents' chances of scoring a TD by 15 percent more than they would have if they got off a decent punt. So why not go for it on fourth-and-8 from your own 6?

And, it should be noted, the Bruins convert about 50 percent of the time.

While Kelley's approach is extreme, he is not the only one with statistics that suggest there's too much kicking going on in football.

A study by University of California-Berkeley economist David Romer that came out in 2005 determined NFL coaches should go for it on fourth down far more often than they do.

For most coaches, the decision on whether to go for it on fourth down has more to do with feel for the game?and job security?than stats.

"Often, it's simply a gut decision," Michigan State coach Mark Dantonio said. "Is the timing right and do you have the confidence in your offense to execute the play against the defense that's called?"

Score. Field position. Time on the clock. How well the defense is playing. How well the offense is playing. The weather. All of these get factored in when coaches decide whether to go or kick.

"To me, it's a statistic, a position, a feel that gives a coach the, 'This is the right time to do this,'" LSU coach Les Miles said.

Miles earned a reputation as a swashbuckling gambler after his Tigers converted five fourth downs in a come-from-behind victory against Florida during their national championship season of 2007.

The perception was not backed by stats. While LSU led the nation in fourth-down conversion rate in '07 (81.3 percent), the Tigers' went on fourth down 16 times?which ranked in the lower third among 119 major college teams.

Miles also said he'd be interested in learning more about Kelley's research.

He also might be interested to find out that Kelley believes abandoning the kicking game has given his team a strategic and psychological advantage.

Because Pulaski Academy's offense is always playing with four downs, it drastically alters play calling for him?third-and-9 is not automatically a passing down?and his opponent?third-and-9 does not automatically mean sending in an extra defensive back.

And while a crucial fourth-down play can raise the heart rates of most players, for Kelley's guys it's just another play.

"There's no difference to them because they are used to it," he said. "The other team does get more excited."

And more deflated when the Bruins convert.

Kelley said that on drives during which his team converts a fourth down, the Bruins score 84 percent of the time.

"I need to go talk to that guy because he's definitely on to something," Leach said. "There are plenty of statistical things whereas coaches, myself included, we're caught up in the good ol' days to the point that there's some changes and things that can be made to just be better and improve. Even if you don't go for what he's doing 100 percent, there's definitely something I'm sure that I can learn from him."

[Jonny Utah]

That is interesting PBR.

And thats what I was thinking about this past Patriots game.

In my own mind (with no stats to back it up), the Colts had a 80% chance of scoring a TD when the Pats failed to convert at the 30.  If the Pats punted, in my own mind the Colts had a 50% chance of scoring?

And what was the chances the Patriots could get 2 yards on that 4th down?  50%?  75%?

Makes ya think.

[SaintsFAN]

File this under Stupid criminals

Two thoughts:

1.  You're NEXT DOOR to the LAPD and its decided that is a good place to make an attempt at the cover of High Times??

2.  I read the LA Times daily because I'm from there ---- lots and lots of crazy people and as a result stories like this out there.