FB: Liberty League

[labart96]

Speaking of chicken, they normally serve it in the Del Val press box.  And speaking of Del Val, the Aggies play the Liberty League champion tomorrow.  And speaking of tomorrow...

Delaware Valley
vs.

Susquehanna

Click here to listen if that suits your fancy.  Pregame begins at 11:40 am with kickoff at 12 pm.

Let's hope that "prediction" on ITH doesn't come back to haunt you Gordon

Looking forward to hearing your call.  k+

[gordonmann]

+k back at ya, TGP.

By the way, if people prefer the Susquehanna perspective, Jack Burns does a great job for the Crusaders radio.  You can hear him here:

http://www.susqu.edu/orgs/wqsu-fm/stream.html

[pumkinattack]

Watching college gameday now and there's an interesting interview with Jim Harbaugh.  The interviewer is looking kind of tasty and she's hitting him with questions about the USC game and he's not exactly nailing the interview. 

Good luck to SUS, Union and Alfred today. 

[Frank Rossi]

Note:  The Hartwick-Union ECAC North Atlantic Championship game will be on WABY (1160AM Mechanicville) beginning at 12:45pm (start time adjusted to aide Hartwick's travel).  The WABY Internet feed may not initially be available due to a station problem.  Please use http://teamline.cc (Team Code: 1160) for today's broadcast if you have any troubles.

[maAggie]

Note to Susquehanna coach: perhaps you shouldn't be saying our opponent isn't 60 points better than you when you just lost 66-7 as it infers that your guys just quit, rather than simply getting beaten by a better opponent...which would mean you team just quit, which is much more embarrassing than the final score....

[labart96]

Note to Susquehanna coach: perhaps you shouldn't be saying our opponent isn't 60 points better than you when you just lost 66-7 as it infers that your guys just quit, rather than simply getting beaten by a better opponent...which would mean you team just quit, which is much more embarrassing than the final score....

Well, techinically they only lost by 59 so DVC wasn't 60 pts better, but I get your point.

[maAggie]

that's very true...I didn't check his math though....

[lewdogg11]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

[lewdogg11]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

I figured as much.

[PBR...]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

got that right...not a good showing this weekend for the LL or E8. where is the LLPP standing in the pick 'em brackets? guru how is your bracket and keith et al?

[Frank Rossi]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

I figured as much.

Terd, did you happen to look at exactly what happened in the Susquehanna game?  I never defend the E8 -- so that's the job of somebody else.  However, the SUS-DVC game was 10-7 with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.  TD, INT, TD, INT, TD in four minutes sunk Susquehanna, who was hanging well with DVC for most of the first half.

Join us on "In the HuddLLe" tonight to hear us discuss with Gordon Mann just what led to a 66-7 score (mainly, SUS let the sky cave in once the score became insurmountable).  The score was by no means indicative of an entire conference or subregion.  It was a bad four minutes for one team that sunk the ship.

[PBR...]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

I figured as much.

Terd, did you happen to look at exactly what happened in the Susquehanna game?  I never defend the E8 -- so that's the job of somebody else.  However, the SUS-DVC game was 10-7 with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.  TD, INT, TD, INT, TD in four minutes sunk Susquehanna, who was hanging well with DVC for most of the first half.

Join us on "In the HuddLLe" tonight to hear us discuss with Gordon Mann just what led to a 66-7 score (mainly, SUS let the sky cave in once the score became insurmountable).  The score was by no means indicative of an entire conference or subregion.  It was a bad four minutes for one team that sunk the ship.

disagree somewhat frank....dvc was gaining huge chunks and moving the ball at will other than a few miscues. there was no doubt from anyone there that it was only a matter of time before dvc started pulling away. you can even check the in game updates on the board here and people listening to gordon call the game were predicting dvc would soon bust this game wide open. pbr was with some susquatch grads and they were calling it at the game as well. In most peoples eyes there was no argument who the better team was...you can say susquehanna had miscues but imho as many others it was a much better team turning it on and taking over a game. 

[Frank Rossi]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

I figured as much.

Terd, did you happen to look at exactly what happened in the Susquehanna game?  I never defend the E8 -- so that's the job of somebody else.  However, the SUS-DVC game was 10-7 with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.  TD, INT, TD, INT, TD in four minutes sunk Susquehanna, who was hanging well with DVC for most of the first half.

Join us on "In the HuddLLe" tonight to hear us discuss with Gordon Mann just what led to a 66-7 score (mainly, SUS let the sky cave in once the score became insurmountable).  The score was by no means indicative of an entire conference or subregion.  It was a bad four minutes for one team that sunk the ship.

disagree somewhat frank....dvc was gaining huge chunks and moving the ball at will other than a few miscues. there was no doubt from anyone there that it was only a matter of time before dvc started pulling away. you can even check the in game updates on the board here and people listening to gordon call the game were predicting dvc would soon bust this game wide open. pbr was with some susquatch grads and they were calling it at the game as well. In most peoples eyes there was no argument who the better team was...you can say susquehanna had miscues but imho as many others it was a much better team turning it on and taking over a game. 

I take nothing away from DVC in my comments.  The problem I have is giving an entire conference or subregion a "Scarlett Letter" to wear when a #7 seed was hanging with a #2 seed until a tumultuous four minutes.  Could it be that the MAC is one of the power conferences in the country?  SJF beat Cortland yesterday.  Union beat Hartwick yesterday comfortably.  Alfred lost a close one to Albright, the MAC runner up.  Syllogisms are tough to use in these circumstances.  My point is that unless you first declare whether or not the MAC is a power conference, you can't judge how good/bad another conference is in these comparisons.  Was Susquehanna the lesser team?  Yes.  Were they 59 points the lesser team?  No.  Sometimes these results just snowball, and we saw that yesterday.

[lewdogg11]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

I figured as much.

Terd, did you happen to look at exactly what happened in the Susquehanna game?  I never defend the E8 -- so that's the job of somebody else.  However, the SUS-DVC game was 10-7 with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.  TD, INT, TD, INT, TD in four minutes sunk Susquehanna, who was hanging well with DVC for most of the first half.

Join us on "In the HuddLLe" tonight to hear us discuss with Gordon Mann just what led to a 66-7 score (mainly, SUS let the sky cave in once the score became insurmountable).  The score was by no means indicative of an entire conference or subregion.  It was a bad four minutes for one team that sunk the ship.

disagree somewhat frank....dvc was gaining huge chunks and moving the ball at will other than a few miscues. there was no doubt from anyone there that it was only a matter of time before dvc started pulling away. you can even check the in game updates on the board here and people listening to gordon call the game were predicting dvc would soon bust this game wide open. pbr was with some susquatch grads and they were calling it at the game as well. In most peoples eyes there was no argument who the better team was...you can say susquehanna had miscues but imho as many others it was a much better team turning it on and taking over a game. 

I take nothing away from DVC in my comments.  The problem I have is giving an entire conference or subregion a "Scarlett Letter" to wear when a #7 seed was hanging with a #2 seed until a tumultuous four minutes.  Could it be that the MAC is one of the power conferences in the country?  SJF beat Cortland yesterday.  Union beat Hartwick yesterday comfortably.  Alfred lost a close one to Albright, the MAC runner up.  Syllogisms are tough to use in these circumstances.  My point is that unless you first declare whether or not the MAC is a power conference, you can't judge how good/bad another conference is in these comparisons.  Was Susquehanna the lesser team?  Yes.  Were they 59 points the lesser team?  No.  Sometimes these results just snowball, and we saw that yesterday.

There is a bit of actual evidence that says the contrary.

[PBR...]

Ok, so after yesterday's debacle, does anyone<cough: Frank> want to defend the strength of the LL or E8 any longer?  Don't say LD didn't predict it.

I figured as much.

Terd, did you happen to look at exactly what happened in the Susquehanna game?  I never defend the E8 -- so that's the job of somebody else.  However, the SUS-DVC game was 10-7 with 5 minutes left in the 2nd quarter.  TD, INT, TD, INT, TD in four minutes sunk Susquehanna, who was hanging well with DVC for most of the first half.

Join us on "In the HuddLLe" tonight to hear us discuss with Gordon Mann just what led to a 66-7 score (mainly, SUS let the sky cave in once the score became insurmountable).  The score was by no means indicative of an entire conference or subregion.  It was a bad four minutes for one team that sunk the ship.

disagree somewhat frank....dvc was gaining huge chunks and moving the ball at will other than a few miscues. there was no doubt from anyone there that it was only a matter of time before dvc started pulling away. you can even check the in game updates on the board here and people listening to gordon call the game were predicting dvc would soon bust this game wide open. pbr was with some susquatch grads and they were calling it at the game as well. In most peoples eyes there was no argument who the better team was...you can say susquehanna had miscues but imho as many others it was a much better team turning it on and taking over a game. 

I take nothing away from DVC in my comments.  The problem I have is giving an entire conference or subregion a "Scarlett Letter" to wear when a #7 seed was hanging with a #2 seed until a tumultuous four minutes.  Could it be that the MAC is one of the power conferences in the country?  SJF beat Cortland yesterday.  Union beat Hartwick yesterday comfortably.  Alfred lost a close one to Albright, the MAC runner up.  Syllogisms are tough to use in these circumstances.  My point is that unless you first declare whether or not the MAC is a power conference, you can't judge how good/bad another conference is in these comparisons.  Was Susquehanna the lesser team?  Yes.  Were they 59 points the lesser team?  No.  Sometimes these results just snowball, and we saw that yesterday.

well the overall LL strength you can argue w/ terd....for pbr the LL was definetly down this year. In fact more than pbr can ever remember. results bear that out. can they recover and get back to where they once were? absolutely. but the #7 seed was hanging w/ the #2 for just over a quarter and were quite lucky to be even doing that. you would expect a #2 seed to overpower a #7 seed and it was just that. dvc took total control of this game, it wasnt susquehanna giving it to them. when dvc's tailback is averaging almost 10 yards a carry for almost 60 yards on the first 2 drives alone you could see who the dominate team was. just look at susquatch qb quotes he was totally confused out there. he had thrown only 3 picks all season up to that point.

>>>However, viewed as part of a defensive game plan that completely baffled Crusaders quarterback Rich Palazzi - who had thrown only three interceptions all season - the theft was a telling play.

"I was watching film all week and they did some things that were different from film that I wasn't really expecting," Palazzi said. "I didn't adjust well to those and it hurt us in the end. They were baiting me in some of my throws and kept rolling coverage; they showed us a bunch of different looks that we hadn't seen before."<<<