FB: Liberty League

[Doid23]

[ including a cornerback that played in the Rose Bowl for Michigan a few years back.

Man, as a Michigan fan, that seems like a million years ago...

" What's that? Ah -- Rose Bowl? Don't talk about -- Rose Bowl? You kidding me? Rose Bowl? I just hope we can win a game! Another game. "

[iamhuge]

If you had to rank the 8 Liberty League teams according to academics, how would you order them?

[lewdogg11]

If you had to rank the 8 Liberty League teams according to academics, how would you order them?

Without any research whatsoever, this is my perception:

1.  RPI
2.  Rochester
3.  Union
4.  WPI
5.  Hobart
6.  St. Lawrence
7.  MMA

Susquehanna doesn't count anymore...nor do I know anything about the school anyway.

[iamhuge]

I pretty much agree with your ordering.

I'd say there is probably not a lot that separates your top 4....attending any one of these would be a win.   

I  think a kid would need to be mathematically inclined to want to go to RPI or WPI although both have excellent business programs.

   

[labart96]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

[lewdogg11]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

Just cause it's a list doesn't mean any of them are 'weak'.  I did my rankings based on my feelings towards how a school is perceived in the work force.  I felt weird putting MMA last, but i've never spoken to any businessmen that were like, 'Oh, I went to Merchant Marine Academy'.  They are just kind of their own animal. 

My feelings towards WPI and Hobart were a toss up.  WPI is pretty strong in Engineering, but I don't feel that they have the well-rounded majors that RPI now has.  All the schools are good.  It's a tough question.  It would have to be more specific to really give a true breakdown.  This is just my big picture perception. 

[dewcrew88]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

This is the right answer. All the LL schools have excellent academics.

[Jonny Utah]

Should have known the ****ing Beavers were going to roll tonight.   Dont ever go against Oregon State.  Those guys are evil. 

[Jonny Utah]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

Just cause it's a list doesn't mean any of them are 'weak'.  I did my rankings based on my feelings towards how a school is perceived in the work force.  I felt weird putting MMA last, but i've never spoken to any businessmen that were like, 'Oh, I went to Merchant Marine Academy'.  They are just kind of their own animal. 

My feelings towards WPI and Hobart were a toss up.  WPI is pretty strong in Engineering, but I don't feel that they have the well-rounded majors that RPI now has.  All the schools are good.  It's a tough question.  It would have to be more specific to really give a true breakdown.  This is just my big picture perception. 

Ive come to the conclusion that going to a good school really only matters for getting that first job.  After that you are on your own for the most part.

[Frank Rossi]

Should have known the ****ing Beavers were going to roll tonight.   Dont ever go against Oregon State.  Those guys are evil. 

Ummm... At what point did you post this?!

[Jonny Utah]

Should have known the ****ing Beavers were going to roll tonight.   Dont ever go against Oregon State.  Those guys are evil. 

Ummm... At what point did you post this?!

too early.  Still didnt matter

[iamhuge]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

This is the right answer. All the LL schools have excellent academics.

Which is why I hope they are being given strong consideration....!!

[pumkinattack]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

Just cause it's a list doesn't mean any of them are 'weak'.  I did my rankings based on my feelings towards how a school is perceived in the work force.  I felt weird putting MMA last, but i've never spoken to any businessmen that were like, 'Oh, I went to Merchant Marine Academy'.  They are just kind of their own animal. 

My feelings towards WPI and Hobart were a toss up.  WPI is pretty strong in Engineering, but I don't feel that they have the well-rounded majors that RPI now has.  All the schools are good.  It's a tough question.  It would have to be more specific to really give a true breakdown.  This is just my big picture perception. 

It's funny becuase I think there are equal amounts of guys from RPI, Union and Hobart on Wall St, just in different roles.  I know a bunch of guys from Hobart and a couple of former Hockey players from Union that are in sales/trading, calling officers/originators (e.g. DCM, IBank coverage officers), but I would suspect that the RPI guys are doing the quant modelling and structured transactions.  In my  limited world, that's my take and there's probably an analogy to generalize the type of path one would want to pursue (RPI guys presumably do a lot of industry/POM type work too).  I don't know if I've ever met a grad from WPI- they must all stay in NE.  I went to B-school with a guy one year older from SLU.  He was an interesting guy, talked a big game, but ultimately settled for the path of least resistance rather than going for what he said he wanted (which I thought was the ananthema of the ethos and justification for an MBA rather than an enlightenment/education-first post graduate degree like philiosophy or economics - which I'll probably get when I'm 50).     

[AUKaz00]

tgp is biased but tgp can't rate hobart that low (it's acceptance rate is over 10 pts lower/better than WPI's for instance).

hard to compare rpi to other ll schools - more than 2x the students, plus graduate and doctoral programs.  it's a totally different kind of institution than a residential liberal arts college like union, bart or slu. 

tgp also highly doubt the mma's academics are weak.  the mma only accepted 400 kids (out of 1600) so it effectively is the most difficult school to get into in the ll.  there avg sats (1200+ are also in the same range as union's, hobart's, etc). 

of course only a specific kid - interested in fed service, maritime law, ships, etc would go there.

ultimately, a degree from any of these schools is a win IMO.

This is the right answer. All the LL schools have excellent academics.

Which is why I hope they are being given strong consideration....!!

What majors is the player in question considering?  The above list will look quite different if it is ranked for Economics as compared to Engineering.

[iamhuge]

originally business...but what I gather from these boards, the player is going to soon be persona non-grata in the Liberty League.