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JQV

Please. God. Let this kid sign with Union.  


Then, God, if it isn't too much to ask, please let this kid got for 50 or 60 yards in the first game.  I will sell all my possessions and preach your Gospel if I get to see Frank's propensity to overhype mediocre Union players meet his pending action for fraud in the inducement live on Union TV.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: JQV on December 04, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Please. God. Let this kid sign with Union.  


Then, God, if it isn't too much to ask, please let this kid got for 50 or 60 yards in the first game.  I will sell all my possessions and preach your Gospel if I get to see Frank's propensity to overhype mediocre Union players meet his pending action for fraud in the inducement live on Union TV.


Even I am going to +K you for this one.

'gro


Yo Frank, iamhuge, Reg, et. al... I'm really happy for you and I'ma let you finish... but gro had one of the best posts of all time! OF ALL TIME!!  8)

Life After Football
by Groseph G. Groberson III

The Ithaca grad is driving down the street in his cadillac. He's low on gas so he stops into the nearest station. The attendant comes out to fill the tank (IC grads never pump their own gas). The man pumping gas looks familiar to Mr. IC grad, "do I know you from somewhere?" he asks the station attendant. "Yeah" the grease monkey replied, "Didn't you play football at Ithaca? I went to Cortland.". This made Mr. IC very proud. "Haha now you're pumping my gas just like our fans used to chant! Hows that for irony you SUNY scumbag!". Cortland man disreguards the truth in that statement and becomes irate. He takes the jelly doughnut he was snacking on and smears it all over the windshield of IC's ride. "Not so tough now, just like when we stomped you in the cortaca game!".

From across the street darts a buiness savy rowan alum (aka bum) with a spray bottle and newspapers ready to clean up the cadillac. "2 bucks man I'll have it good as new!" he tells the IC grad. Both IC grad and Cortland alum roll their eyes. "Listen ex-rowan bum, I'm not giving you any money so you can go buy bright yellow mustard and smear it all over yourself and run around screaming 'LONG LIVE THE BORO!!' so beat it!". To make matters worse the bum's social worker shows up. He went to Hobart, and only wears purple. "This man needs help" says the hobart alum... consealing any signs of a lisp in his voice. "Come on Gary, lets go back to the shelter and play hide the pumpkin." They leave.

The owner of the gas station has been watching this unfold the entire time. As a union grad, he knows he needs to run a tight ship in order to succeed in business. He puts down his Volvo Weekly magazine and confronts the angry IC and Cortland grads. "Listen, both of you jerks must realize that no one cares about cortaca and if Union didn't make so many mistakes we'd be 7 time stagg bowl champs. Stop being so loud or my daddy won't let me watch the store anymore!!".

Suddenly, the tinted back window of the cadillac opens. Inside is a RPI grad, wearing the finest polyester suit and sex panther cologne. In one hand, a blackberry working post patterns like nobodys business. In the other, the firm round buttcheeck of his female companion... also being worked like nobodys business. He points at the IC grad (which upsets him because he had to put down the blackberry to do so).

"Hey driver! I'm not paying you to reminisce about your crappy life! Get me to the airport pronto... I hear it's gonna snow, and I don't want you making excuses!!"

Yanks 99

Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
Reg, Yanks and Ty... Answer me this simple question.  Do you condone the actions that, to a degree, you're defending?

If the action includes saying your kid ran a 4.6 40 (when he ran it with a wind storm at his back), that he is 6 feet tall (but only with cleats on), and that he weighs 210 (when in full pads)...then sure...

Bottom line is, the college coach will take a look and figure it out.  No one is simply giving scholarships without watching film and visiting a kid...and if they are, then they cannot be successful.

Calling a HS AD and getting involved is a complete douchebag move.
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

PBR...

Quote from: Terd Fergusen on December 04, 2009, 03:58:26 PM
Atleast the kid is keeping his options open and not jumping at the first team showing interest.  He looking from the #1 team in D1(Florida) all the way down to the 4th place team in the LL(Rochester).  That is pretty admirable if you ask me.

d@mn u terd...pbr has the cough that never goes away  from the cold everyone has had and after reading that PBR is LMAO and coughing out loud like a mf'r!!!

lewdogg11

Quote from: Groseph G. Groberson III on December 04, 2009, 04:01:52 PM

Yo Frank, iamhuge, Reg, et. al... I'm really happy for you and I'ma let you finish... but gro had one of the best posts of all time! OF ALL TIME!!  8)

Life After Football
by Groseph G. Groberson III

The Ithaca grad is driving down the street in his cadillac. He's low on gas so he stops into the nearest station. The attendant comes out to fill the tank (IC grads never pump their own gas). The man pumping gas looks familiar to Mr. IC grad, "do I know you from somewhere?" he asks the station attendant. "Yeah" the grease monkey replied, "Didn't you play football at Ithaca? I went to Cortland.". This made Mr. IC very proud. "Haha now you're pumping my gas just like our fans used to chant! Hows that for irony you SUNY scumbag!". Cortland man disreguards the truth in that statement and becomes irate. He takes the jelly doughnut he was snacking on and smears it all over the windshield of IC's ride. "Not so tough now, just like when we stomped you in the cortaca game!".

From across the street darts a buiness savy rowan alum (aka bum) with a spray bottle and newspapers ready to clean up the cadillac. "2 bucks man I'll have it good as new!" he tells the IC grad. Both IC grad and Cortland alum roll their eyes. "Listen ex-rowan bum, I'm not giving you any money so you can go buy bright yellow mustard and smear it all over yourself and run around screaming 'LONG LIVE THE BORO!!' so beat it!". To make matters worse the bum's social worker shows up. He went to Hobart, and only wears purple. "This man needs help" says the hobart alum... consealing any signs of a lisp in his voice. "Come on Gary, lets go back to the shelter and play hide the pumpkin." They leave.

The owner of the gas station has been watching this unfold the entire time. As a union grad, he knows he needs to run a tight ship in order to succeed in business. He puts down his Volvo Weekly magazine and confronts the angry IC and Cortland grads. "Listen, both of you jerks must realize that no one cares about cortaca and if Union didn't make so many mistakes we'd be 7 time stagg bowl champs. Stop being so loud or my daddy won't let me watch the store anymore!!".

Suddenly, the tinted back window of the cadillac opens. Inside is a RPI grad, wearing the finest polyester suit and sex panther cologne. In one hand, a blackberry working post patterns like nobodys business. In the other, the firm round buttcheeck of his female companion... also being worked like nobodys business. He points at the IC grad (which upsets him because he had to put down the blackberry to do so).

"Hey driver! I'm not paying you to reminisce about your crappy life! Get me to the airport pronto... I hear it's gonna snow, and I don't want you making excuses!!"

Go promote your post on gator country loser.  Just don't tell them you wrote it...

Jonny Utah

Quote from: JQV on December 04, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Please. God. Let this kid sign with Union.  


Then, God, if it isn't too much to ask, please let this kid got for 50 or 60 yards in the first game.  I will sell all my possessions and preach your Gospel if I get to see Frank's propensity to overhype mediocre Union players meet his pending action for fraud in the inducement live on Union TV.


That would be great.  What would be even better is if Iamhuge Sr. ends up being the Thornton Mellon of the Union campus.  


Hey Iamhuge Jr! Frank R!, Dlippel! Lets go, the postgame party has started!

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Yanks 99 on December 04, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
Reg, Yanks and Ty... Answer me this simple question.  Do you condone the actions that, to a degree, you're defending?

If the action includes saying your kid ran a 4.6 40 (when he ran it with a wind storm at his back), that he is 6 feet tall (but only with cleats on), and that he weighs 210 (when in full pads)...then sure...

Bottom line is, the college coach will take a look and figure it out.  No one is simply giving scholarships without watching film and visiting a kid...and if they are, then they cannot be successful.

Calling a HS AD and getting involved is a complete douchebag move.

OK, so Yanks condones cheating.  Anyone else?

Regulator

Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
Reg, Yanks and Ty... Answer me this simple question.  Do you condone the actions that, to a degree, you're defending?

No, I don't think he should have said he has all the offers, unless he really does.

I do think it's is cool that someone is this supportive of his son (even if it is too supportive) and supportive of his son going to college.

I'm not defending anything.  I am pissed that you are trying to ruin the kids chances at playing ball.


Yanks 99

Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on December 04, 2009, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
Reg, Yanks and Ty... Answer me this simple question.  Do you condone the actions that, to a degree, you're defending?

If the action includes saying your kid ran a 4.6 40 (when he ran it with a wind storm at his back), that he is 6 feet tall (but only with cleats on), and that he weighs 210 (when in full pads)...then sure...

Bottom line is, the college coach will take a look and figure it out.  No one is simply giving scholarships without watching film and visiting a kid...and if they are, then they cannot be successful.

Calling a HS AD and getting involved is a complete douchebag move.

OK, so Yanks condones cheating.  Anyone else?

None of that is lying...
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Regulator on December 04, 2009, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 03:58:54 PM
Reg, Yanks and Ty... Answer me this simple question.  Do you condone the actions that, to a degree, you're defending?

No, I don't think he should have said he has all the offers, unless he really does.

I do think it's is cool that someone is this supportive of his son (even if it is too supportive) and supportive of his son going to college.

I'm not defending anything.  I am pissed that you are trying to ruin the kids chances at playing ball.



Just the opposite, Reg.  I didn't become active in this really until I realized this wasn't the kid and that someone else is hurting the kid's chances.

I agree fully with your support paragraph above.  THAT is something I encourage.  And if you really knew me, Reg, then you'd realize that and the fact that I know the difference.

SJFF82

Quote from: Frank Rossi on December 04, 2009, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: Ty1983 on December 04, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
No its not Frank...my gosh, you think because you say it it is true...and thos ein disagreement are d-bags.

You put it out there so now you have to be exposed as incorrect.  In order for something to be fraud in the law, a party has to rely upon a material misrepresentation in entering into an agreement.  The present scenario lacks all of these elements Frank.  Is the video a material misrepresentation of thsi kid's ability?  Not unless you are claiming that the kid running the ball in the video is not the kid seeking the college.  Would a college reasonably rely upon the dad's statements of other schools showing interest as a material factor in 'signing' this kid....dont think so.  Certainly the coaching staffs are relying MATERIALLY on the actual video, maybe some unedited game film, conversations with his coaches, parents etc.....NOT some claims of interest from other schools.

Frank, you were right up to a point and now you are overreaching like the Dad.

constructive fraud
n. when the circumstances show that someone's actions give him/her an unfair advantage over another by unfair means (lying or not telling a buyer about defects in a product, for example), the court may decide from the methods used and the result that it should treat the situation as if there was actual fraud even if all the technical elements of fraud have not been proven.


 fraud
n. the intentional use of deceit, a trick or some dishonest means to deprive another of his/her/its money, property or a legal right. A party who has lost something due to fraud is entitled to file a lawsuit for damages against the party acting fraudulently, and the damages may include punitive damages as a punishment or public example due to the malicious nature of the fraud. Quite often there are several persons involved in a scheme to commit fraud and each and all may be liable for the total damages. Inherent in fraud is an unjust advantage over another which injures that person or entity. It includes failing to point out a known mistake in a contract or other writing (such as a deed), or not revealing a fact which he/she has a duty to communicate, such as a survey which shows there are only 10 acres of land being purchased and not 20 as originally understood. Constructive fraud can be proved by a showing of breach of legal duty (like using the trust funds held for another in an investment in one's own business) without direct proof of fraud or fraudulent intent. Extrinsic fraud occurs when deceit is employed to keep someone from exercising a right, such as a fair trial, by hiding evidence or misleading the opposing party in a lawsuit. Since fraud is intended to employ dishonesty to deprive another of money, property or a right, it can also be a crime for which the fraudulent person(s) can be charged, tried and convicted. Borderline overreaching or taking advantage of another's naiveté involving smaller amounts is often overlooked by law enforcement, which suggests the victim seek a "civil remedy" (i.e., sue). However, increasingly fraud, which has victimized a large segment of the public (even in individually small amounts), has become the target of consumer fraud divisions in the offices of district attorneys and attorneys general.



 fraud in the inducement
n. the use of deceit or trick to cause someone to act to his/her disadvantage, such as signing an agreement or deeding away real property. The heart of this type of fraud is misleading the other party as to the facts upon which he/she will base his/her decision to act. Example: "there will be tax advantages to you if you let me take title to your property," or "you don't have to read the rest of the contract-it is just routine legal language" but actually includes a balloon payment.




Entry into a college is a property right based on limitation of resources and scholarships that may attach.  Ty, go get your JD.  If you have one, then go to some CLEs quick.

Frank....I am laughing at you as I type....you are like many many many lawyers that I kick their ass in and out of the courtroom everyday, because they never figured out the difference between the reciting the law and actually applying it correctly to the facts at hand.  You should be applauded for your quick 'thinking' by piping in some pre-wriiten textbook definitions of fraud, yet you clearly have no clue on how to analyze the legal concept of fraud and apply it.  

Do you practice law with your JD or do you run around reciting the law out of a book?  You are the tool from Harvard in Good Will Hunting that Matt Damon schooled in the bar scene.


Got my JD...and I know how to use it thanks  I'll take the trial verdicts in my favor....you can keep your classroom CLE's and wit.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Jonny Utah on December 04, 2009, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: JQV on December 04, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Please. God. Let this kid sign with Union.  


Then, God, if it isn't too much to ask, please let this kid got for 50 or 60 yards in the first game.  I will sell all my possessions and preach your Gospel if I get to see Frank's propensity to overhype mediocre Union players meet his pending action for fraud in the inducement live on Union TV.


That would be great.  What would be even better is if Iamhuge Sr. ends up being the Thornton Mellon of the Union campus.  


Hey Iamhuge Jr! Frank R!, Dlippel! Lets go, the postgame party has started!

In the Hot Tub at Union....
Mr Huge:<To scantily clad women(SCW) in hot tub>  'You know what we're missing in here?'
SCW:  'What?'
Mr. Huge:  'Bubbles!'
<In walks hot chick named Bubbles...>
Mr. Huge:  'Hey Bubbles?  What's your major?'
Bubbles:  'Poetry.'
Mr. Huge:  'Grrreat!  Well maybe you can help me straighten my Long Fellow...'


Frank Rossi

Ty, instead of grandstanding, please tell me what was wrong with my application of the law.  Or is your arm stuck behind your neck from patting your back today?

[EDIT:  I'm still waiting for your rankings of the 14 E8/LL teams.  Anytime you're ready.]

Regulator

Quote from: Ty1983 on December 04, 2009, 04:07:34 PM


Frank....I am laughing at you as I type....you are like many many many lawyers that I kick their ass in and out of the courtroom everyday, because they never figured out the difference between the reciting the law and actually applying it correctly to the facts at hand.  You should be applauded for your quick 'thinking' by piping in some pre-wriiten textbook definitions of fraud, yet you clearly have no clue on how to analyze the legal concept of fraud and apply it.  

Do you practice law with your JD or do you run around reciting the law out of a book?  You are the tool from Harvard in Good Will Hunting that Matt Damon schooled in the bar scene.


Got my JD...and I know how to use it thanks  I'll take the trial verdicts in my favor....you can keep your classroom CLE's and wit.

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