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[lewdogg11]

...this just in...Larry Kehres has just bailed out on MUC...he took his dream job at Duluth Community College as a gym teacher....the pay is excellent so he couldnt pass it up.   MUC will finish its season under an interim coach.

Why do you care so much?  Atleast if ND finishes undefeated, they would have a chance at the National Championship.  Cincy doesn't have that luxury.

[SJFF82]

...this just in...Larry Kehres has just bailed out on MUC...he took his dream job at Duluth Community College as a gym teacher....the pay is excellent so he couldnt pass it up.   MUC will finish its season under an interim coach.

Why do you care so much?  Atleast if ND finishes undefeated, they would have a chance at the National Championship.  Cincy doesn't have that luxury.

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

[Jonny Utah]

...this just in...Larry Kehres has just bailed out on MUC...he took his dream job at Duluth Community College as a gym teacher....the pay is excellent so he couldnt pass it up.   MUC will finish its season under an interim coach.

Why do you care so much?  Atleast if ND finishes undefeated, they would have a chance at the National Championship.  Cincy doesn't have that luxury.

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

Wow,  you mean someone actually changed jobs to make more money?  Shame on him.

[PBR...]

the players are ticked off and rightly so...

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/homepage/20091211_Notre_Dame_hires_Kelly__Cincy_players_mad.html

[SaintsFAN]

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

He left because it was his dream as a Catholic kid growing up to coach/play for Notre Dame.  He fell short having to play at Assumption College (MA) and now is realizing his dream to coach Notre Dame.  Its not the money, its the pressure and wanting to bring ND back to what they were when they were great.  The contract, I'm being told, didn't break the bank.  

Meanwhile here in Cincy... let the people bitch... I'm a UC fan also, as I live two miles from campus but these people are morons.  He took them to new heights and made it possible for UC to be good in the future because he brought donors back to the campus with their checkbooks.   They have alot of improvements being made to the UC program.... a practice bubble, stadium expansion, etc and that wouldn't have been possible if Kelly hadn't came in and told them they needed it to sustain their success.  People in Cincy are just worried that he's the WHOLE PROGRAM and thats not the case.  There are coaches who have bowl games to coach that WANT the Cincy job. 

UC is infinitely better for having him around for 3 years.  Most of the players are pissed because he told them he was staying in Cincy last week, as they prepared for the defacto Big East Title game.  Should he have told his players last Tuesday that he was probably going to leave???  What would that have done to their prep for the Pitt game?  Had he done that, they'd be playing in the Meineke Car Bowl where Pitt is.  

If Bill Gates or a Carnegie called me today in my office, I'd run out to meet with them secretly.  I'd do the same damn thing because its a dream.  This holier than thou crap can suck a fart out of SF's arse.

[SJFF82]

...this just in...Larry Kehres has just bailed out on MUC...he took his dream job at Duluth Community College as a gym teacher....the pay is excellent so he couldnt pass it up.   MUC will finish its season under an interim coach.

Why do you care so much?  Atleast if ND finishes undefeated, they would have a chance at the National Championship.  Cincy doesn't have that luxury.

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

Wow,  you mean someone actually changed jobs to make more money?  Shame on him.

ha...knew this deflected response was coming from someone.  MEMO: He abandoned his current responsibilities and abandoned his team.

Unless you are just trying to argue with me...I guess if we really are in a world of no loyalty and cash is all that matters, then so be it, I will move on.

[SJFF82]

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

He left because it was his dream as a Catholic kid growing up to coach/play for Notre Dame.  He fell short having to play at Assumption College (MA) and now is realizing his dream to coach Notre Dame.  Its not the money, its the pressure and wanting to bring ND back to what they were when they were great.  The contract, I'm being told, didn't break the bank.  

Meanwhile here in Cincy... let the people bitch... I'm a UC fan also, as I live two miles from campus but these people are morons.  He took them to new heights and made it possible for UC to be good in the future because he brought donors back to the campus with their checkbooks.   They have alot of improvements being made to the UC program.... a practice bubble, stadium expansion, etc and that wouldn't have been possible if Kelly hadn't came in and told them they needed it to sustain their success.  People in Cincy are just worried that he's the WHOLE PROGRAM and thats not the case.  There are coaches who have bowl games to coach that WANT the Cincy job. 

UC is infinitely better for having him around for 3 years.  Most of the players are pissed because he told them he was staying in Cincy last week, as they prepared for the defacto Big East Title game.  Should he have told his players last Tuesday that he was probably going to leave???  What would that have done to their prep for the Pitt game?  Had he done that, they'd be playing in the Meineke Car Bowl where Pitt is.  

If Bill Gates or a Carnegie called me today in my office, I'd run out to meet with them secretly.  I'd do the same damn thing because its a dream.  This holier than thou crap can suck a fart out of SF's arse.

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 . 

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

[SaintsFAN]

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 . 

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

Blame not Brian Kelly, UC or ND .... blame the NCAA for this.  This won't be the last team who fills their coaching vacancy during the Bowl season.  If they moved back the signing day by a month, this wouldn't happen.  But as it is... we are in a "win-now" society and if a Coach takes a job and misses a month of recruiting, it affects the job. 

I do know this was a dream of his, however, and my buddy is one of the few down there on campus who isn't ready to lynch the guy right now --- which is ludicrous. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 . 

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

Maybe UC didn't want him to coach the Sugar Bowl if he wasn't going to be their coach next year...

Also, Being a College Football Coach is different that being a Lawyer.  Apples to Oranges.

[lewdogg11]

...this just in...Larry Kehres has just bailed out on MUC...he took his dream job at Duluth Community College as a gym teacher....the pay is excellent so he couldnt pass it up.   MUC will finish its season under an interim coach.

Why do you care so much?  Atleast if ND finishes undefeated, they would have a chance at the National Championship.  Cincy doesn't have that luxury.

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

Wow,  you mean someone actually changed jobs to make more money?  Shame on him.

ha...knew this deflected response was coming from someone.  MEMO: He abandoned his current responsibilities and abandoned his team.

Unless you are just trying to argue with me...I guess if we really are in a world of no loyalty and cash is all that matters, then so be it, I will move on.

The problem is that he has a bowl game in a few weeks.  ND needed a coach ASAP.  So, if CINCY sucked this year, didn't make a bowl game, it would be ok, however, he probably wouldn't have been hired.  

You can't fault the guy for making a career change.  It's like if someone offered you a bigger better job, but you were int he middle of a big project that you have been working on.  Would you decline the job and money to finish your project?

[Stlarry]

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

He left because it was his dream as a Catholic kid growing up to coach/play for Notre Dame.  He fell short having to play at Assumption College (MA) and now is realizing his dream to coach Notre Dame.  Its not the money, its the pressure and wanting to bring ND back to what they were when they were great.  The contract, I'm being told, didn't break the bank.  

Meanwhile here in Cincy... let the people bitch... I'm a UC fan also, as I live two miles from campus but these people are morons.  He took them to new heights and made it possible for UC to be good in the future because he brought donors back to the campus with their checkbooks.   They have alot of improvements being made to the UC program.... a practice bubble, stadium expansion, etc and that wouldn't have been possible if Kelly hadn't came in and told them they needed it to sustain their success.  People in Cincy are just worried that he's the WHOLE PROGRAM and thats not the case.  There are coaches who have bowl games to coach that WANT the Cincy job.  

UC is infinitely better for having him around for 3 years.  Most of the players are pissed because he told them he was staying in Cincy last week, as they prepared for the defacto Big East Title game.  Should he have told his players last Tuesday that he was probably going to leave???  What would that have done to their prep for the Pitt game?  Had he done that, they'd be playing in the Meineke Car Bowl where Pitt is.  

If Bill Gates or a Carnegie called me today in my office, I'd run out to meet with them secretly.  I'd do the same damn thing because its a dream.  This holier than thou crap can suck a fart out of SF's arse.

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 .  

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

I see this as part of a larger issue.  It seems as if contracts mean very little these days for coaches and schools.  I'm sure there are some legal ramifications for jumping ship for the greener pasture, but in most cases, nothing ever seems to be enough to make a coach think twice.

My major issue is with all of these coaches being allowed to go before bowl games.  I know schools that have fired their coach want to get a replacement as fast as possible, but I feel like NCAA needs to stipulate a moratorium that no hires can occur until after a team has played their final game.  Losing a coach really shortchanges the student-athletes (who are supposed to be the focus of college football).  I know it will never happen, but the coaches leaving before the season is over really bothers me for some reason.

[lewdogg11]

Huh?  So why does anyone bother coaching anywhere other than Texas, Fla., Mich, Oh. St, etc..?

The idea about Cincy not having that luxury is exactly what I hate about D1 college football....that is what my one post was about generally.

And he didnt leave for the National Championships he is going to win at ND....he left for the contract....period.

ND will win a National Champioship when the 20th century returns.

He left because it was his dream as a Catholic kid growing up to coach/play for Notre Dame.  He fell short having to play at Assumption College (MA) and now is realizing his dream to coach Notre Dame.  Its not the money, its the pressure and wanting to bring ND back to what they were when they were great.  The contract, I'm being told, didn't break the bank.  

Meanwhile here in Cincy... let the people bitch... I'm a UC fan also, as I live two miles from campus but these people are morons.  He took them to new heights and made it possible for UC to be good in the future because he brought donors back to the campus with their checkbooks.   They have alot of improvements being made to the UC program.... a practice bubble, stadium expansion, etc and that wouldn't have been possible if Kelly hadn't came in and told them they needed it to sustain their success.  People in Cincy are just worried that he's the WHOLE PROGRAM and thats not the case.  There are coaches who have bowl games to coach that WANT the Cincy job.  

UC is infinitely better for having him around for 3 years.  Most of the players are pissed because he told them he was staying in Cincy last week, as they prepared for the defacto Big East Title game.  Should he have told his players last Tuesday that he was probably going to leave???  What would that have done to their prep for the Pitt game?  Had he done that, they'd be playing in the Meineke Car Bowl where Pitt is.  

If Bill Gates or a Carnegie called me today in my office, I'd run out to meet with them secretly.  I'd do the same damn thing because its a dream.  This holier than thou crap can suck a fart out of SF's arse.

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 .  

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

I see this as part of a larger issue.  It seems as if contracts mean very little these days for coaches and schools.  I'm sure there are some legal ramifications for jumping ship for the greener pasture, but in most cases, nothing ever seems to be enough to make a coach think twice.

My major issue is with all of these coaches being allowed to go before bowl games.  I know schools that have fired their coach want to get a replacement as fast as possible, but I feel like NCAA needs to stipulate a moratorium that no hires can occur until after a team has played their final game.  Losing a coach really shortchanges the student-athletes (who are supposed to be the focus of college football).  I know it will never happen, but the coaches leaving before the season is over really bothers me for some reason.

If coaches can't go before bowl games, then NO other teams should be allowed to hire a new coach until a certain date, period.  It's not fair to anyone, and it's not fair for a coach who has done a good job, to miss a job opening because he has a bowl game in a month.

[SaintsFAN]

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 . 

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

Maybe UC didn't want him to coach the Sugar Bowl if he wasn't going to be their coach next year...

Also, Being a College Football Coach is different that being a Lawyer.  Apples to Oranges.

THAT is exactly what happened, here kirasdad.  +K.  I forgot this part.  Once it became clear he was out at UC --- Mike Thomas decided to go with the Offensive Coordinator as the Interim Head Coach.

BTW... UC can't be too pissed about this as an institution... when Kelly was hired in 2006, they brought him over before the Bearcats Bowl Game (and leaving Central Michigan without their Head Coach).

[Stlarry]

I see this as part of a larger issue.  It seems as if contracts mean very little these days for coaches and schools.  I'm sure there are some legal ramifications for jumping ship for the greener pasture, but in most cases, nothing ever seems to be enough to make a coach think twice.

My major issue is with all of these coaches being allowed to go before bowl games.  I know schools that have fired their coach want to get a replacement as fast as possible, but I feel like NCAA needs to stipulate a moratorium that no hires can occur until after a team has played their final game.  Losing a coach really shortchanges the student-athletes (who are supposed to be the focus of college football).  I know it will never happen, but the coaches leaving before the season is over really bothers me for some reason.

If coaches can't go before bowl games, then NO other teams should be allowed to hire a new coach until a certain date, period.  It's not fair to anyone, and it's not fair for a coach who has done a good job, to miss a job opening because he has a bowl game in a month.

Agree with that, meant to word it that way but didn't.  They should make it like the national signing day.  Coaches get up on the podium with the hats from three colleges, pretend to pick one up, then put on another.  It would be much more fun this way.

[SJFF82]

you make alot of good points.  Of course he made Cincy better.  If you know what his dream was and he's following it...fine.  I agree with all that.  I will "suck taht fart" as you say.

Why however, am I "holier than thou" for expecting a freakin coach to finish the ****IN season and coach his players in their ****in Bowl game???   You r right....he can do whatever the **** he wants, but could he have waited a ****in week?

If ND wanted him and he wanted them....great....good luck in the Sugar Bowl Mr. Kelly, we will see ya in South Bend in 2 and 2 . 

If I had spent 2 years litigating a case and preparing it for trial and left on the eve of it and told my partners "good  luck, my trial notes are in the 3rd drawer from the top" I would be a disloyal dirtbag and have no character and integrity.  That is what Brian Kelly is!

This "I need the money and I am following my dream" crap can suck a bigger Fart out of SJFF82's ARSE!!!

Maybe UC didn't want him to coach the Sugar Bowl if he wasn't going to be their coach next year...

Also, Being a College Football Coach is different that being a Lawyer.  Apples to Oranges.

Oh, I didnt realize that...thanks.  Loyalty is a pretty universal concept though, it usually applies to most fact patterns.  Navel ones and Red Delicious equally!