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Frank Rossi

Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 15, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
this one is going to get ugly:

? In September, Craig James called assistant coach Tommy McVay "to tell him, in effect, that you coaches are crazy and you're screwing my kid."

? The same day that he made the call to McVay, Craig James left a message for Riley "stating, in effect, 'You don't know what you're doing. Adam James is the best player at the wide receiver position. ... If you've got the [blank] to call me back, and I don't think you do, call me back.' "

? During practices before the Valero Alamo Bowl, Adam James "told Coach [Bennie] Wylie that Wylie didn't know what he was doing and James' effort was just fine."

? Adam James "voluntarily placed himself into the electrical closet and apparently took pictures with his phone camera."

? Texas Tech President Guy Bailey advised Leach that he thought Chancellor Kent Hance was going to try to "railroad" Leach, because of a business relationship between James and Hance.

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405

You should remind everyone that this came from Leach's complaint -- I'm not sure if these points were based on sworn affidavits or not -- and it is just a compilation of allegations.  That said, this ish is definitely going to get fugly.

Yanks 99

Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 15, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
this one is going to get ugly:

? In September, Craig James called assistant coach Tommy McVay "to tell him, in effect, that you coaches are crazy and you're screwing my kid."

? The same day that he made the call to McVay, Craig James left a message for Riley "stating, in effect, 'You don't know what you're doing. Adam James is the best player at the wide receiver position. ... If you've got the [blank] to call me back, and I don't think you do, call me back.' "

? During practices before the Valero Alamo Bowl, Adam James "told Coach [Bennie] Wylie that Wylie didn't know what he was doing and James' effort was just fine."

? Adam James "voluntarily placed himself into the electrical closet and apparently took pictures with his phone camera."

? Texas Tech President Guy Bailey advised Leach that he thought Chancellor Kent Hance was going to try to "railroad" Leach, because of a business relationship between James and Hance.

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405

If I am Tuberville coming in, I would record every conversation that he has with the entire James family.  This kid is bad news, and the father is worse.  I still can't believe that ESPN gave the old man his own forum during whatever bowl game he was announcing on the day that Leach was fired.  This guy is a total pr!ck.
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Yanks 99

I guess that comment was -k worthy?
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union89

Quote from: Thornton Melon on January 15, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 15, 2010, 12:32:38 PM
Not to hit a political stride here -- so let's leave political debate out of any discussion that spawns from this -- but, I don't think I've witnessed such a huge turnaround in such a short time by one candidate in a statewide or national race like the one we're seeing right now in Massachusetts for the Senate seat opened by the passing of Ted Kennedy.

The latest Suffolk University poll puts the race at Brown (R) 50%, Coakley (D) 46%, Kennedy (I) 3%, Undecided 1%.  In November, the race showed a 31-point lead for Coakley, a 35-point turnaround if the poll is correct on its face.  Massachusetts has historically been one of the most liberal states in the Union, although the Governorship has been held by Republicans a fair amount (Weld, Cellucci, Swift, Romney) -- although, you could argue how conservative or liberal each of those Republicans were.  

Do I think Brown will win?  No -- I think polls tend to undercompensate urban areas (and Suffolk County is very pro-Coakley still).  However, this should've never been a horserace.  Yet, Coakley still is making a number of gaffes publicly giving Brown a chance to do the unthinkable.  Massachusetts, a state with universal healthcare, seems to be suggesting they're not in love with their own system if this vote is becoming a vote on the 41st "No" vote in the Senate.  There's a lot to look at here in a seemingly simple statewide election, so you're going to be seeing a lot about it over the next 4 days until voting is over (and maybe more after voting is closed).

This really has been an interesting race here Frank, and its one that I have been following pretty close.  There there are a few reasons why this race has closed up so much (or appears to have closed up).

Coakley basically didn't campaign until this race got close and people realize that.  She doesn't go around and talk to people in cities and towns like your average politician does, and probably should do.  

Coakley also has run a lot of negative ads recently, and that has also pissed off some people.  And its not the fact that the ads are simply negative, its that the ads simply don't fly with an intelligent voting base.  Comparing Brown to "Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Cheney" and then emphasising the word 'republican' in every add is just not flying with people.

MA also has a very unpopular democratic governor right now.  He has really given democrats a bad name here in local MA politics.

And another bottom like is that coakley comes off as more of an old school boring politician, while Brown is a young engeretic man looking for "change".



Agreed with all of this Utah....Coakley had lost her lead prior to the negative ad campaign though.

Knightstalker

Quote from: Yanks 99 on January 15, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 15, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
this one is going to get ugly:

? In September, Craig James called assistant coach Tommy McVay "to tell him, in effect, that you coaches are crazy and you're screwing my kid."

? The same day that he made the call to McVay, Craig James left a message for Riley "stating, in effect, 'You don't know what you're doing. Adam James is the best player at the wide receiver position. ... If you've got the [blank] to call me back, and I don't think you do, call me back.' "

? During practices before the Valero Alamo Bowl, Adam James "told Coach [Bennie] Wylie that Wylie didn't know what he was doing and James' effort was just fine."

? Adam James "voluntarily placed himself into the electrical closet and apparently took pictures with his phone camera."

? Texas Tech President Guy Bailey advised Leach that he thought Chancellor Kent Hance was going to try to "railroad" Leach, because of a business relationship between James and Hance.

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405

If I am Tuberville coming in, I would record every conversation that he has with the entire James family.  This kid is bad news, and the father is worse.  I still can't believe that ESPN gave the old man his own forum during whatever bowl game he was announcing on the day that Leach was fired.  This guy is a total pr!ck.

They need to figure a way to revoke his scholarship.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

Yanks 99

#41390
Quote from: Knightstalker on January 15, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on January 15, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 15, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
this one is going to get ugly:

? In September, Craig James called assistant coach Tommy McVay "to tell him, in effect, that you coaches are crazy and you're screwing my kid."

? The same day that he made the call to McVay, Craig James left a message for Riley "stating, in effect, 'You don't know what you're doing. Adam James is the best player at the wide receiver position. ... If you've got the [blank] to call me back, and I don't think you do, call me back.' "

? During practices before the Valero Alamo Bowl, Adam James "told Coach [Bennie] Wylie that Wylie didn't know what he was doing and James' effort was just fine."

? Adam James "voluntarily placed himself into the electrical closet and apparently took pictures with his phone camera."

? Texas Tech President Guy Bailey advised Leach that he thought Chancellor Kent Hance was going to try to "railroad" Leach, because of a business relationship between James and Hance.

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405

If I am Tuberville coming in, I would record every conversation that he has with the entire James family.  This kid is bad news, and the father is worse.  I still can't believe that ESPN gave the old man his own forum during whatever bowl game he was announcing on the day that Leach was fired.  This guy is a total pr!ck.

They need to figure a way to revoke his scholarship.

I think the best way is to simply bring the kid in, tell him that he will never play a down the remainder of the time he is there, but is welcome to stay on the team and won't lose his scholarship.  If Tuberville did that, the kid and his father would be gone by the end of the week.
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

PBR...


SJFF82

Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 15, 2010, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: Union89 on January 15, 2010, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Andy Feltersnatch on January 15, 2010, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 15, 2010, 12:32:38 PM
Not to hit a political stride here -- so let's leave political debate out of any discussion that spawns from this -- but, I don't think I've witnessed such a huge turnaround in such a short time by one candidate in a statewide or national race like the one we're seeing right now in Massachusetts for the Senate seat opened by the passing of Ted Kennedy.

The latest Suffolk University poll puts the race at Brown (R) 50%, Coakley (D) 46%, Kennedy (I) 3%, Undecided 1%.  In November, the race showed a 31-point lead for Coakley, a 35-point turnaround if the poll is correct on its face.  Massachusetts has historically been one of the most liberal states in the Union, although the Governorship has been held by Republicans a fair amount (Weld, Cellucci, Swift, Romney) -- although, you could argue how conservative or liberal each of those Republicans were. 

Do I think Brown will win?  No -- I think polls tend to undercompensate urban areas (and Suffolk County is very pro-Coakley still).  However, this should've never been a horserace.  Yet, Coakley still is making a number of gaffes publicly giving Brown a chance to do the unthinkable.  Massachusetts, a state with universal healthcare, seems to be suggesting they're not in love with their own system if this vote is becoming a vote on the 41st "No" vote in the Senate.  There's a lot to look at here in a seemingly simple statewide election, so you're going to be seeing a lot about it over the next 4 days until voting is over (and maybe more after voting is closed).

I've been watching this and not trying to make this political but 3 things are sticking out to SF as humorous:

1.  Her Campaign misspelled Massachusetts on 1 of her TV ads --- D'oh!
2.  She said " we have reason to believe the terrorists have all left Afghanistan"...
3.  a supporter of hers tackled a newspaper reporter into a fence  when he asked about the Afghanistan question... SF has seen the tape and is concluding the supporter was probably a DB at Williams or something.  Nice form.







U89 will be at a Scott Brown rally on Sunday morning.

Glad we FINALLY agree on something.

SF, here's a clip giving the play-by-play of the situation:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Dd-jAJD
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Holy ****...was getting ready to type the same thing "glad we agree on something" when I scrolled up and saw your reply Frank...well Im glad we 3 can all agree on something  ;)

SJFF82

Quote from: Knightstalker on January 15, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on January 15, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 15, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
this one is going to get ugly:

? In September, Craig James called assistant coach Tommy McVay "to tell him, in effect, that you coaches are crazy and you're screwing my kid."

? The same day that he made the call to McVay, Craig James left a message for Riley "stating, in effect, 'You don't know what you're doing. Adam James is the best player at the wide receiver position. ... If you've got the [blank] to call me back, and I don't think you do, call me back.' "

? During practices before the Valero Alamo Bowl, Adam James "told Coach [Bennie] Wylie that Wylie didn't know what he was doing and James' effort was just fine."

? Adam James "voluntarily placed himself into the electrical closet and apparently took pictures with his phone camera."

? Texas Tech President Guy Bailey advised Leach that he thought Chancellor Kent Hance was going to try to "railroad" Leach, because of a business relationship between James and Hance.

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405

If I am Tuberville coming in, I would record every conversation that he has with the entire James family.  This kid is bad news, and the father is worse.  I still can't believe that ESPN gave the old man his own forum during whatever bowl game he was announcing on the day that Leach was fired.  This guy is a total pr!ck.

They need to figure a way to revoke his scholarship.

why cant they just kick him off the team?  I am sure the James family could afford the tuition if they merely revoked his scholarship.

This, of course, presumes that the football program, generally, wants him off.

Knightstalker

KS thinks he was talking to this guy at Microsoft today.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

PBR...

lamps lit....



pbr is heading for the barn...

Doid23

Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 15, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
this one is going to get ugly:

? In September, Craig James called assistant coach Tommy McVay "to tell him, in effect, that you coaches are crazy and you're screwing my kid."

? The same day that he made the call to McVay, Craig James left a message for Riley "stating, in effect, 'You don't know what you're doing. Adam James is the best player at the wide receiver position. ... If you've got the [blank] to call me back, and I don't think you do, call me back.' "

? During practices before the Valero Alamo Bowl, Adam James "told Coach [Bennie] Wylie that Wylie didn't know what he was doing and James' effort was just fine."

? Adam James "voluntarily placed himself into the electrical closet and apparently took pictures with his phone camera."

? Texas Tech President Guy Bailey advised Leach that he thought Chancellor Kent Hance was going to try to "railroad" Leach, because of a business relationship between James and Hance.

Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4828405

Please please PLEASE let the Craig James comments be true, and if so, that someone have tapes of this conversation somewhere. Or at least phone records. Also, the question was never answered, did the coach have the balls to call Craig James back? How much balls would one really need to call out a preppy white guy from Dallas?

JT

Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 15, 2010, 12:32:38 PM
Not to hit a political stride here -- so let's leave political debate out of any discussion that spawns from this -- but, I don't think I've witnessed such a huge turnaround in such a short time by one candidate in a statewide or national race like the one we're seeing right now in Massachusetts for the Senate seat opened by the passing of Ted Kennedy.

The latest Suffolk University poll puts the race at Brown (R) 50%, Coakley (D) 46%, Kennedy (I) 3%, Undecided 1%.  In November, the race showed a 31-point lead for Coakley, a 35-point turnaround if the poll is correct on its face.  Massachusetts has historically been one of the most liberal states in the Union, although the Governorship has been held by Republicans a fair amount (Weld, Cellucci, Swift, Romney) -- although, you could argue how conservative or liberal each of those Republicans were.  

Do I think Brown will win?  No -- I think polls tend to undercompensate urban areas (and Suffolk County is very pro-Coakley still).  However, this should've never been a horserace.  Yet, Coakley still is making a number of gaffes publicly giving Brown a chance to do the unthinkable.  Massachusetts, a state with universal healthcare, seems to be suggesting they're not in love with their own system if this vote is becoming a vote on the 41st "No" vote in the Senate.  There's a lot to look at here in a seemingly simple statewide election, so you're going to be seeing a lot about it over the next 4 days until voting is over (and maybe more after voting is closed).

Here's an interesting but funny synopsys about Massachusetts' healthcare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqD-nMpsYAY

JT has been making 100 calls a day for Brown since 12/27, and has been bundling cash for the man.

JT

#41398
Quote from: Andy Feltersnatch on January 15, 2010, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 15, 2010, 12:32:38 PM
Not to hit a political stride here -- so let's leave political debate out of any discussion that spawns from this -- but, I don't think I've witnessed such a huge turnaround in such a short time by one candidate in a statewide or national race like the one we're seeing right now in Massachusetts for the Senate seat opened by the passing of Ted Kennedy.

The latest Suffolk University poll puts the race at Brown (R) 50%, Coakley (D) 46%, Kennedy (I) 3%, Undecided 1%.  In November, the race showed a 31-point lead for Coakley, a 35-point turnaround if the poll is correct on its face.  Massachusetts has historically been one of the most liberal states in the Union, although the Governorship has been held by Republicans a fair amount (Weld, Cellucci, Swift, Romney) -- although, you could argue how conservative or liberal each of those Republicans were.  

Do I think Brown will win?  No -- I think polls tend to undercompensate urban areas (and Suffolk County is very pro-Coakley still).  However, this should've never been a horserace.  Yet, Coakley still is making a number of gaffes publicly giving Brown a chance to do the unthinkable.  Massachusetts, a state with universal healthcare, seems to be suggesting they're not in love with their own system if this vote is becoming a vote on the 41st "No" vote in the Senate.  There's a lot to look at here in a seemingly simple statewide election, so you're going to be seeing a lot about it over the next 4 days until voting is over (and maybe more after voting is closed).

I've been watching this and not trying to make this political but 3 things are sticking out to SF as humorous:

1.  Her Campaign misspelled Massachusetts on 1 of her TV ads --- D'oh!
2.  She said " we have reason to believe the terrorists have all left Afghanistan"...
3.  a supporter of hers tackled a newspaper reporter into a fence  when he asked about the Afghanistan question... SF has seen the tape and is concluding the supporter was probably a DB at Williams or something.  Nice form.


Coakley people also put a out negative ad associating Brown with people he doesn't even know.  And mentioning Brown's connection to Wall St fat cats using the World Trade Center (pre 9-11) as the background.  

Proof that you can't cure stupid.


rams1102

Quote from: JT on January 15, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
Quote from: Andy Feltersnatch on January 15, 2010, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 15, 2010, 12:32:38 PM
Not to hit a political stride here -- so let's leave political debate out of any discussion that spawns from this -- but, I don't think I've witnessed such a huge turnaround in such a short time by one candidate in a statewide or national race like the one we're seeing right now in Massachusetts for the Senate seat opened by the passing of Ted Kennedy.

The latest Suffolk University poll puts the race at Brown (R) 50%, Coakley (D) 46%, Kennedy (I) 3%, Undecided 1%.  In November, the race showed a 31-point lead for Coakley, a 35-point turnaround if the poll is correct on its face.  Massachusetts has historically been one of the most liberal states in the Union, although the Governorship has been held by Republicans a fair amount (Weld, Cellucci, Swift, Romney) -- although, you could argue how conservative or liberal each of those Republicans were.  

Do I think Brown will win?  No -- I think polls tend to undercompensate urban areas (and Suffolk County is very pro-Coakley still).  However, this should've never been a horserace.  Yet, Coakley still is making a number of gaffes publicly giving Brown a chance to do the unthinkable.  Massachusetts, a state with universal healthcare, seems to be suggesting they're not in love with their own system if this vote is becoming a vote on the 41st "No" vote in the Senate.  There's a lot to look at here in a seemingly simple statewide election, so you're going to be seeing a lot about it over the next 4 days until voting is over (and maybe more after voting is closed).

I've been watching this and not trying to make this political but 3 things are sticking out to SF as humorous:

1.  Her Campaign misspelled Massachusetts on 1 of her TV ads --- D'oh!
2.  She said " we have reason to believe the terrorists have all left Afghanistan"...
3.  a supporter of hers tackled a newspaper reporter into a fence  when he asked about the Afghanistan question... SF has seen the tape and is concluding the supporter was probably a DB at Williams or something.  Nice form.


Coakley people also put a out negative ad associating Brown with people he doesn't even know.  And mentioning Brown's connection to Wall St fat cats using the World Trade Center (pre 9-11) as the background.  

Proof that you can't cure stupid.



You da man. +K
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