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Quote from: kirasdad on January 18, 2010, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: Andy Feltersnatch on January 18, 2010, 08:21:16 AM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 17, 2010, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: Doid23 on January 17, 2010, 10:19:12 PM
Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on January 17, 2010, 08:56:39 PM
J-E-T-S....JETS JETS JETS!!!    8-)

House money from here on out. Hell, it was house money getting INTO the playoffs. I'll give them a punchers chance against the Colts, but man, the Colts defense was FAST against the Ravens. J-E-T-S Jets! Jets! Jets!

Jets played well against the Colts in their win in the 15th game -- even before the first team sat for the Colts.  Would the Jets have won that game if the first team stayed in?  I really think there was a 50/50 chance of it.  So I won't be shocked if the Jets beat the Colts this time.  Colts are still my guess, but I'd place a personal spread at about -8 or -9 and would consider putting down money if it's beyond that (I haven't looked yet, so let me know how off I am).

Disagree... they were down by more than a TD in Indy during the 3rd Quarter when the Colts pulled the starters.  Peyton Manning is just different.  Sorry boys, as much I like rooting for the Underdogs, no way the Colts lose this one. 

Sorry SF, but you are incorrect.  The score was 15-10, Casey Painter came in, got sacked/stripped for a TD and the Jets went for 2 to put them up 18-15.  Jets scored another FG and another TD with a successful 2-pt. conversion to make the final score 29-15.

The Colts did look pathetic with Painter in there though.  He was like a deer in the headlights.  Colts Offense did nothing with Manning on the bench.  I think the Jets run ends here, but I enjoy watching Ryan's brashness.

For some reason, I thought Colts were up 9 when PM left the game.  I stand corrected
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Looks like I'm not betting the game -- line is -8 for the Colts.

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Quote from: Senor RedTackle on January 18, 2010, 10:57:27 AM
hello everyone....RT checking in.



Was good seeing you recently, RT -- you might not have seen me, though.  You were on the side of a milk carton... :-)

Frank Rossi

#41435
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

Ive driven around this weekend and I cannot tell you how suprised I am with the amount of Brown supporters, signs, etc on the streets.   In all honesty, I have never heard so much support for any politician than I have heard for Brown recently. 

I say Brown wins easily from what I have seen

JT

Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

The Kos kids are about as close to card carrying commies as one can get.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Thornton Melon on January 18, 2010, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

Ive driven around this weekend and I cannot tell you how suprised I am with the amount of Brown supporters, signs, etc on the streets.   In all honesty, I have never heard so much support for any politician than I have heard for Brown recently. 

I say Brown wins easily from what I have seen

I just like him cause his daughters are both hot.

JT

Quote from: The Situation on January 18, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
Quote from: Thornton Melon on January 18, 2010, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

Ive driven around this weekend and I cannot tell you how suprised I am with the amount of Brown supporters, signs, etc on the streets.   In all honesty, I have never heard so much support for any politician than I have heard for Brown recently. 

I say Brown wins easily from what I have seen

I just like him cause his daughters are both hot.

This is true. 

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: JT on January 18, 2010, 07:20:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

The Kos kids are about as close to card carrying commies as one can get.

Of course, by JT's standards about 35-40% of Americans are 'card-carrying commies'! :o

If Brown is counting on 18-29 year-olds actually voting in a special election, he may be in for a shock.  They may get excited for a Presidential election (Obama benefitted from record turn-out), but non-Presidential elections are won by the over 50 crowd.  (There may be snow on the roof, but we VOTE.)

JT

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 18, 2010, 07:53:51 PM
Quote from: JT on January 18, 2010, 07:20:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

The Kos kids are about as close to card carrying commies as one can get.

Of course, by JT's standards about 35-40% of Americans are 'card-carrying commies'! :o

If Brown is counting on 18-29 year-olds actually voting in a special election, he may be in for a shock.  They may get excited for a Presidential election (Obama benefitted from record turn-out), but non-Presidential elections are won by the over 50 crowd.  (There may be snow on the roof, but we VOTE.)

I probably should have clarified for my friend here.  The Kos is to the Democrats as Pat Robertson is to Republicans.   Almost nothing is left enough for the Kos kids, and almost nothing is right enough for Pat. Neither help the process.

Mr. Ypsi

#41442
Quote from: JT on January 18, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 18, 2010, 07:53:51 PM
Quote from: JT on January 18, 2010, 07:20:16 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on January 18, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
The polls released yesterday and today, with the exception of one outlier, are decisively showing Scott Brown ahead of Martha Coakley.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/latest_election_polls.html

Is it just me, or have we all been collectively holding our breath, regardless of who you're rooting for here, for either Brown to not make any mistakes down the final stretch or for Coakley to stop making mistakes?  You always feel like an unknown like Brown could be prime fodder for an "October Surprise" moment that could be a major turning point.  Similarly, people have been scrutinizing every word coming out of Coakley's mouth now that she's appearing publicly -- making her attempt to save her campaign almost a no-win situation.  

The key figure -- Brown leads Coakley in the 18-29 year-old segment by a whopping and unheard-of 61-30 margin:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31621.html

Draw your own conclusions as to what this all means on a national level or a voter message -- but from an actual election and statistical analysis, this has me still scratching my head.  

[EDIT:  I looked at the Daily Kos website that shows the race as tied -- and it's an odd site.  Obama's favorable rating last week is shown at 55% on this site, which is 5-10 points off the other polls, including Gallup.  Not sure this polling is very accurate.]

[EDIT2:  Boston Globe calls Daily Kos a "liberal...blog" at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/coakley_brown_t.html -- either way, averaging would give Brown a 5-6 point lead.]

The Kos kids are about as close to card carrying commies as one can get.

Of course, by JT's standards about 35-40% of Americans are 'card-carrying commies'! :o

If Brown is counting on 18-29 year-olds actually voting in a special election, he may be in for a shock.  They may get excited for a Presidential election (Obama benefitted from record turn-out), but non-Presidential elections are won by the over 50 crowd.  (There may be snow on the roof, but we VOTE.)

I probably should have clarified for my friend here.  The Kos is to the Democrats as Pat Robertson is to Republicans.   Almost nothing is left enough for the Kos kids, and almost nothing is right enough for Pat. Neither help the process.


Now that I could buy.  I never read Kos, and by JT's standards I'm certainly a leftist! ;)

But after Pat Robertson's comments about Haiti, please do not EVER compare that scumbag to anyone again (Hitler, maybe).

Mr. Ypsi

JT, are you concerned that Brown seems to skew young, and young don't vote?

I'll predict Coakley with 52% (we old folks DO vote).

Frank Rossi

C'mon guys -- let's try to keep it non-skewed in any discussion, or we'll be summarily dismissed to the Politics Board.  Let's focus on the race and predictions on the outcome itself.