FB: Liberty League

[Doid23]

R.I.P. George Steinbrenner....

He will be missed. I hated Steinbrenner in his early days, and believe that his suspension is what allowed Stick Michael to rebuild the farm system that led to the mid/late 90's Yankee dynasty. But as time evolved, I began to appreciate his passion for and commitment to the Yankees, and to winning at all costs. And when you look at what the Yankees organization had become when he bought it from CBS, and where it is now, you have to admire what a great businessman he was, and his huge impact (good and bad) on baseball.

Listened to a great interview with Dave Winfield while driving back from Lunch, of all the people who should have hated George it would be Winfield (and maybe Hideki Irabu), but he spoke to how George and he developed a great relationship  over time, and what a great man he was, his charitable efforts, his family and community focus, etc. Just a complex man, but certainly never to be forgotten.

[AUPepBand]

R.I.P. George Steinbrenner...one of his smartest moves...hiring George Costanza!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-GJ9iNX8g

[Doid23]

R.I.P. George Steinbrenner....

And the great Yankee PA announcer Bob Sheppard at the age of 99 on 7/11.  Sounded like the voice of God to JT.

I remember going to Opening Day a few years back (2006 or 2007), seeing Guidry as Yankees pitching coach, Yogi throwing out the first pitch, but without Bob Sheppard's voice over the PA system, just didn't seem right. It just isn't the same without him in the building.

[Mr. Ypsi]

R.I.P. George Steinbrenner....

He will be missed. I hated Steinbrenner in his early days, and believe that his suspension is what allowed Stick Michael to rebuild the farm system that led to the mid/late 90's Yankee dynasty. But as time evolved, I began to appreciate his passion for and commitment to the Yankees, and to winning at all costs. And when you look at what the Yankees organization had become when he bought it from CBS, and where it is now, you have to admire what a great businessman he was, and his huge impact (good and bad) on baseball.

Listened to a great interview with Dave Winfield while driving back from Lunch, of all the people who should have hated George it would be Winfield (and maybe Hideki Irabu), but he spoke to how George and he developed a great relationship  over time, and what a great man he was, his charitable efforts, his family and community focus, etc. Just a complex man, but certainly never to be forgotten.

Always the capitalist, he died at the right time.  Obama's inheritance tax of 55% over after the first million kicks in starting in 2011.  At least the family keeps the Yankees (for sure)... Joe Robbie's kids weren't so fortunate.

JT, please confine your political falsehoods to the politics board.  The expiration of the inheritance tax break was passed before Obama was even in the Senate, much less President.

[Lyco80]

Regarding Steinbrenner and the Yankees:

Tampa would not have a major league team without the influence and persuasion of "Big Stein" for it was his persistence that enabled them to finally get a franchise - the very team that would beat the Yankees in 2008 and help break their historic run of consecutive playoff appearances.

As to the Yankees:  when Elston Howard was first with the team they trained in Fort Lauderdale - but segregation kept them from eating and lodging in the same establishment.  Result - the Yankees relocated across Florida to Tampa - St. Petersburg where they could eat together and lodge in the same hotel.

The Yankees and "Big Stein" are often vilified but are seldom eclipsed.

Last year's ring was for the Man - glad they won it - and pleased he lived to see it.

He was not perfect, but who among us is?  R.I.P.

"I smell a pennant . . ."  I will never forget all the Seinfeld bits either.

ATB

[JT]

R.I.P. George Steinbrenner....

And the great Yankee PA announcer Bob Sheppard at the age of 99 on 7/11.  Sounded like the voice of God to JT.

I remember going to Opening Day a few years back (2006 or 2007), seeing Guidry as Yankees pitching coach, Yogi throwing out the first pitch, but without Bob Sheppard's voice over the PA system, just didn't seem right. It just isn't the same without him in the building.

Jeter got a recording done.  He will always be introduced by Sheppard.  You can find clips on the net for various players.

[JT]

Regarding Steinbrenner and the Yankees:

Tampa would not have a major league team without the influence and persuasion of "Big Stein" for it was his persistence that enabled them to finally get a franchise - the very team that would beat the Yankees in 2008 and help break their historic run of consecutive playoff appearances.

As to the Yankees:  when Elston Howard was first with the team they trained in Fort Lauderdale - but segregation kept them from eating and lodging in the same establishment.  Result - the Yankees relocated across Florida to Tampa - St. Petersburg where they could eat together and lodge in the same hotel.

The Yankees and "Big Stein" are often vilified but are seldom eclipsed.

Last year's ring was for the Man - glad they won it - and pleased he lived to see it.

He was not perfect, but who among us is?  R.I.P.

"I smell a pennant . . ."  I will never forget all the Seinfeld bits either.

ATB

They should have put him in HOF in 2001 or 2002.

[Pat Coleman]

JT: Keep the politics off this board, thanks.

[Ralph Turner]

The first thing that I thought about was the impact of Steinbrenner dying in 2010 and not 2011.  It definitely effects the management and financial stability of the franchise.

   

[Mr. Ypsi]

The first thing that I thought about was the impact of Steinbrenner dying in 2010 and not 2011.  It definitely effects the management and financial stability of the franchise.

   

True, but JT calling it specifically an Obama tax is just plain stupid, and does not belong on this board.

[Doid23]

Both these quotes always cracked me up:

"We plan absentee ownership as far as running the Yankees is concerned," George said nearly 40 years ago upon buying the Yankees. "We're not going to pretend we're something we aren't. I'll stick to building ships."
Just a few months later, the Yankees' Front Office was in turmoil as the people George brought in to run the team had departed. "Nothing," Yankees limited partner John McMullen said, "is as limited as being a limited partner of George's."

[Pat Coleman]

JT: Keep the politics off this board, thanks.

What about Ypsi, running around playing gotcha.

This isn't like being a referee, where I only see the person who retaliates.

I don't care one bit -- one bit -- who was right in whose mind. You went negative and you went political. And you did it first. And you did it gratuitously, when your point would have been well understood without the reference.

That's clearly not needed. Keep the political mess in its mosh pit.

[dlippiel]

2010 preseason All-American list is released with only five young men representing the East region. Good luck to those players here in 2010. We are getting closer...

By the way some LL talk: dlip is feeling that with Union (of course he has to talk about the U) bringing some very athletic and and talented football players on the offensive side of the ball (Coney, Gallo) this may just be Andrew Connelly's year. dlip gives this kid a ton of credit for his maturity and leadership through some of his growing pains at the helm and has a gut feeling it may all pay off here in 2010.

[PBR...]

2010 preseason All-American list is released with only five young men representing the East region. Good luck to those players here in 2010. We are getting closer...

By the way some LL talk: dlip is feeling that with Union (of course he has to talk about the U) bringing some very athletic and and talented football players on the offensive side of the ball (Coney, Gallo) this may just be Andrew Connelly's year. dlip gives this kid a ton of credit for his maturity and leadership through some of his growing pains at the helm and has a gut feeling it may all pay off here in 2010.

need some flavor on that list... the E8/LL need to kick it up a notch in recruiting

[labart96]

2010 preseason All-American list is released with only five young men representing the East region. Good luck to those players here in 2010. We are getting closer...

By the way some LL talk: dlip is feeling that with Union (of course he has to talk about the U) bringing some very athletic and and talented football players on the offensive side of the ball (Coney, Gallo) this may just be Andrew Connelly's year. dlip gives this kid a ton of credit for his maturity and leadership through some of his growing pains at the helm and has a gut feeling it may all pay off here in 2010.

need some flavor on that list... the E8/LL need to kick it up a notch in recruiting

The costs, distances, and in some cases, the academic requirements of E8/LL generally will prevent these schools from getting these midwestern / southern kids.

That said, to have 5 players from the East isn't too shabby - especially in light of our generally quick, and occassionally lopsided, departures in the play-offs...