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lewdogg11

LewStradamus' Week 4 Predictions:

SJF - 28
Hobart - 24

Ithaca - 31
Lyco - 13

Springfield - 28
Alfred - 17

Utica - 35
Wilkes - 28

Union - 31
Rochester - 24

WPI - 14
RPI - 13

union89

Quote from: LewDoth Stonehammer on September 23, 2010, 05:42:23 PM
LewStradamus' Week 4 Predictions:

SJF - 28
Hobart - 24

Ithaca - 31
Lyco - 13

Springfield - 28
Alfred - 17

Utica - 35
Wilkes - 28

Union - 31
Rochester - 24

WPI - 14
RPI - 13



Agreed until the RPI/WPI game.......RPI may not be good, but WPI is horrible!!!!!

lewdogg11

Quote from: Union89 on September 23, 2010, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: LewDoth Stonehammer on September 23, 2010, 05:42:23 PM
LewStradamus' Week 4 Predictions:

SJF - 28
Hobart - 24

Ithaca - 31
Lyco - 13

Springfield - 28
Alfred - 17

Utica - 35
Wilkes - 28

Union - 31
Rochester - 24

WPI - 14
RPI - 13



Agreed until the RPI/WPI game.......RPI may not be good, but WPI is horrible!!!!!

It's a tough one to call, but losing to Utica by 21 and beating Endicott by 3 doesn't go too far in my book.  Hopefully they prove me wrong.  WPI lost to Salve 6-3.  Salve and Endicott play this weekend so we don't know if they are any different.  Maybe RPI can prove me wrong, but so far, I just don't see it.  I don't even know the last time WPI won this game.  Maybe 96? 

Just looked it up, and it was indeed 1996.  LD was a young impressionable innocent HS student watching that game from the stands...

dlippiel

Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

I don't see why Albany would now be a recruiting problem for RPI or Union.  They have had a football team for almost 100 years now.  I do see they had a big win against Maine though, and who knows, maybe it will help RPI and Union with a couple of stud transfers?

But it could be a problem like what happens in Massachusetts.  The NE-10 league is a division 2 league of mostly New England teams which I believe hurts d3 football recruiting in the whole east region.

dlippiel

Quote from: Jonny Podunk on September 24, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

I don't see why Albany would now be a recruiting problem for RPI or Union.  They have had a football team for almost 100 years now.  I do see they had a big win against Maine though, and who knows, maybe it will help RPI and Union with a couple of stud transfers?

But it could be a problem like what happens in Massachusetts.  The NE-10 league is a division 2 league of mostly New England teams which I believe hurts d3 football recruiting in the whole east region.

For most of UAlbany's tenor they competed on the D3 level and usually the recruits they went for did not have the academic records to get into Union and/or RPI so it was a different type of kid they recruited (of course this was not always the case). Now they can attract a higher academic type who is also a solid athlete because of the step up in divison. That student athlete who in the past opted for the higher level (or higher reputed) academic institution now opts for the higher division in football. Plus even if they are not offered a scholarship (full or partial) the tuition is so much lower. Just some thoughts.

Jonny Utah

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Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: Jonny Podunk on September 24, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

I don't see why Albany would now be a recruiting problem for RPI or Union.  They have had a football team for almost 100 years now.  I do see they had a big win against Maine though, and who knows, maybe it will help RPI and Union with a couple of stud transfers?

But it could be a problem like what happens in Massachusetts.  The NE-10 league is a division 2 league of mostly New England teams which I believe hurts d3 football recruiting in the whole east region.

For most of UAlbany's tenor they competed on the D3 level and usually the recruits they went for did not have the academic records to get into Union and/or RPI so it was a different type of kid they recruited (of course this was not always the case). Now they can attract a higher academic type who is also a solid athlete because of the step up in divison. That student athlete who in the past opted for the higher level (or higher reputed) academic institution now opts for the higher division in football. Plus even if they are not offered a scholarship (full or partial) the tuition is so much lower. Just some thoughts.

Oh yea I'm not saying there aren't more kids now that may choose Albany over Union or RPI for football.  But I think overall it helps Union and RPI that Albany is a more competitive 1-aa football program.  10-20 years ago probably 50% of Albany football players were from the Albany area while now Albany is going to have to recruit nationally to some extent.

And don't forget schools like Ithaca and Hobart get a lot of good players from the Albany area as well. 

dewcrew88

Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: Jonny Podunk on September 24, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

I don't see why Albany would now be a recruiting problem for RPI or Union.  They have had a football team for almost 100 years now.  I do see they had a big win against Maine though, and who knows, maybe it will help RPI and Union with a couple of stud transfers?

But it could be a problem like what happens in Massachusetts.  The NE-10 league is a division 2 league of mostly New England teams which I believe hurts d3 football recruiting in the whole east region.

For most of UAlbany's tenor they competed on the D3 level and usually the recruits they went for did not have the academic records to get into Union and/or RPI so it was a different type of kid they recruited (of course this was not always the case). Now they can attract a higher academic type who is also a solid athlete because of the step up in divison. That student athlete who in the past opted for the higher level (or higher reputed) academic institution now opts for the higher division in football. Plus even if they are not offered a scholarship (full or partial) the tuition is so much lower. Just some thoughts.

I rarely make fun of typos, but this one made me laugh. I was wondering why you are talking about Albany's tenor, as opposed to its sopranos, altos, and basses. (Dlip, i'm just teasing you a bit)

dlippiel

Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 24, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:46:08 AM
Quote from: Jonny Podunk on September 24, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

I don't see why Albany would now be a recruiting problem for RPI or Union.  They have had a football team for almost 100 years now.  I do see they had a big win against Maine though, and who knows, maybe it will help RPI and Union with a couple of stud transfers?

But it could be a problem like what happens in Massachusetts.  The NE-10 league is a division 2 league of mostly New England teams which I believe hurts d3 football recruiting in the whole east region.

For most of UAlbany's tenor they competed on the D3 level and usually the recruits they went for did not have the academic records to get into Union and/or RPI so it was a different type of kid they recruited (of course this was not always the case). Now they can attract a higher academic type who is also a solid athlete because of the step up in divison. That student athlete who in the past opted for the higher level (or higher reputed) academic institution now opts for the higher division in football. Plus even if they are not offered a scholarship (full or partial) the tuition is so much lower. Just some thoughts.

I rarely make fun of typos, but this one made me laugh. I was wondering why you are talking about Albany's tenor, as opposed to its sopranos, altos, and basses. (Dlip, i'm just teasing you a bit)

Well deserved dew well deserved  ;) And imagine dlip teaches kids  :D

clandfan

Quote from: Jonny Podunk on September 24, 2010, 08:21:27 AM
Quote from: dlip on September 24, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
Yesterday dlip listened to a Joe King interview on the radio and heard some of his insight into recruiting trouble regarding Albany. Honestly dlip never thought of it but Albany being a somewhat up and coming 1AA team must really dip into the upper epchalon recruits that used to go to RPI and Union. It seems as if some of the top local players in recent years who are right on the line between D1 and D3 have headed to Albany. dlip is sure that many (referring to the academically eligibale of course) have chosen Albany over the U and RPI just for a chance to play some top level 1AA competiton (UMASS, Maine, etc). dlip wonders just how much of an impact UAlbany has had on the recruiting of Union and RPI overall.

I don't see why Albany would now be a recruiting problem for RPI or Union.  They have had a football team for almost 100 years now.  I do see they had a big win against Maine though, and who knows, maybe it will help RPI and Union with a couple of stud transfers?

But it could be a problem like what happens in Massachusetts.  The NE-10 league is a division 2 league of mostly New England teams which I believe hurts d3 football recruiting in the whole east region.

I know that Albany has recruited CNY pretty hard and I believe has taken some kids who really weren't D1 level kids.  They also tend to redshirt most of their freshman and over time, many tend to cut themselves or transfer.  Some to the benefit of D3 programs.  You only have to look as far as Jason Boltus at Hartwick.  Now he truly may have been a D1 prospect.  Hartwick may have benefitted but I wonder if he didn't hurt himself in the long run.

Stlarry

St. Lawrence University - 2010 LL Champs

Pat Coleman

Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 24, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
I rarely make fun of typos,

As well you shouldn't.

But this tenor isn't going anywhere near Albany. :)
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2010, 03:33:14 PM
Quote from: dewcrew88 on September 24, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
I rarely make fun of typos,

As well you shouldn't.

But this tenor isn't going anywhere near Albany. :)

KS used to be a tenor, whiskey and cigars have turned him to a baritone.

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dlippiel

dlip eagerly awaits The Dutchman's second game of the 2010 campaign on the morrow vs the Yellow-jackets of Rochester at Frank Bailey Field.

Key's to Union Success:

-If Clarence Onyiriuka plays he must be contained (as much as one would hope to contain him) Thus far his #'s look like this: 2G   33A  163YDS    0Loss  163Net   4.9APC   0TD   18Long  81.5APG. dlip is not quite sure of his status for tomorrow (knowing he was injured in the first quarter of the Courage Bowl) but if he does play he can freeze secondaries, make them cheat, and open up the passing game for big plays on top of the big plays he makes himself. The kid is nasty period.

-At QB Patrick Keegan has 2 INT's to go along with his 2 TD's and some decent yardage against some decent competition. What worries dlip the most is that 1.) The Union secondary was really poor against IC 2.) Keegan has shown the ability to distribute the ball to multiple receivers against a team with a solid secondary in SJF. If Union's secondary has not come together dlip believe's Keegan with or without Onyiriuka will exploit them.

-Union's offensive line must must must improve their ability to create holes for Chris Coney. This offensive feature was non-existent against IC and put all the pressure on Drew Connelly's shoulders.

-Drew Connelly must locate open receivers and check off when in the pocket. Against IC it took Drew almost three quarters to find his mojo but throughout the duration of the game he struggled to find wide open receivers in the middle of the field and the flat. At times his accuracy was amazing and in the five receiver sets he really began to distribute the ball down field with success.

-As good as Justin Gallo is he needs help from his brother and other Union receivers (Chris Vasquez) to help spread out U of R's secondary reads. Solid routes need to be run consistently to keep the Yellowjacket DB's and Safety on their toes.

-Union's special teams need to 1.) stay in coverage on kickoff/punts 2.) get some consistent return yardage on returns. It has been a while since the Dutch have threatened on returns and even longer since they have shown special teams superiority. This area needs to improve and hopefully there will be progress tomorrow.

-dlip knows these kids have been working tirelessly the past two weeks and will come out with something to prove. dlip always says regardless of outcomes he supports the U 100% and all the hard work the kids are putting forth day in and day out. He would however love to see this team take a big step tomorrow night towards the goal of an LL championship. With Bart the clear favorite in dlip's mind for the league title as of now Union can start to disprove that with a solid performance and win tomorrow night.

Union 28 Rochester 24

*For those in the local CD viewing area who have Time Warner this game will be televised. dlip hopes though that most will make the trip to Frank Bailey tomorrow evening to make this first home game of 2010 very special. Let's support the U!