FB: Liberty League

[AUPepBand]

How about Tom Coughlin "bookending" his career and coming back to RIT to solve the problem and restart football(http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/rochistory/2013/09/25/sept-25-rit-football-opens-2nd-season-under-tom-coughlin/) ? Or maybe his son-in-law, ex-Giant Chris Snee?
Come on Tigers , it would be great!

Great idea! Pep remembers the Saxons playing RIT and also recalls attending a pre-season scrimmage there on a nice grass field with no bleachers. As it were, Pep's mother, sitting away back from the sideline on a blanket, was struck by a football player who had been pushed out of bounds. That was the first time Pep rode in the back of an ambulance!

Have often wondered why RIT didn't stick with it....seems like they have the student body to support D3 football to go along with their big hockey program.

[Boxer7806]

How about Tom Coughlin "bookending" his career and coming back to RIT to solve the problem and restart football(http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/rochistory/2013/09/25/sept-25-rit-football-opens-2nd-season-under-tom-coughlin/) ? Or maybe his son-in-law, ex-Giant Chris Snee?
Come on Tigers , it would be great!

Great idea! Pep remembers the Saxons playing RIT and also recalls attending a pre-season scrimmage there on a nice grass field with no bleachers. As it were, Pep's mother, sitting away back from the sideline on a blanket, was struck by a football player who had been pushed out of bounds. That was the first time Pep rode in the back of an ambulance!

Have often wondered why RIT didn't stick with it....seems like they have the student body to support D3 football to go along with their big hockey program.

Union use to think the same thing, now look at their football.

[AUPepBand]

How about Tom Coughlin "bookending" his career and coming back to RIT to solve the problem and restart football(http://blogs.democratandchronicle.com/rochistory/2013/09/25/sept-25-rit-football-opens-2nd-season-under-tom-coughlin/) ? Or maybe his son-in-law, ex-Giant Chris Snee?
Come on Tigers , it would be great!

Great idea! Pep remembers the Saxons playing RIT and also recalls attending a pre-season scrimmage there on a nice grass field with no bleachers. As it were, Pep's mother, sitting away back from the sideline on a blanket, was struck by a football player who had been pushed out of bounds. That was the first time Pep rode in the back of an ambulance!

Have often wondered why RIT didn't stick with it....seems like they have the student body to support D3 football to go along with their big hockey program.

Union use to think the same thing, now look at their football.

RIT has an enrollment of 12,373....                    Union? 2,192

But then, RIT doesn't appear to have enrollment issues, which is actually why some of the many new D3 football programs were begun...to boost the testosterone level on campus.

[NED3Guy]

In addition to their d1 hockey, RIT and Union have both built up Nationally ranked lacrosse teams over the past decade. Both are fixtures in the top ten nationally, year in and year out.

They also have the same number of wins in football this season.

[Frank Rossi]

In addition to their d1 hockey, RIT and Union have both built up Nationally ranked lacrosse teams over the past decade. Both are fixtures in the top ten nationally, year in and year out.

They also have the same number of wins in football this season.

Notably, Union Lacrosse has a booster club and a group of Trustees who became major backers of the program.  It's helped pump in resources for coaching and recruiting, from what I understand.  Unfortunately, the same has not happened for Union Football -- the booster club for Football has experienced a scenario whereby funds raised have come out the other end.  In other words, fundraising through the booster club has become a budget line instead of discretionary.  You'd be absolutely shocked at what the Football booster club fundraising actually funds presently.

[dlippiel]

In addition to their d1 hockey, RIT and Union have both built up Nationally ranked lacrosse teams over the past decade. Both are fixtures in the top ten nationally, year in and year out.

They also have the same number of wins in football this season.

Notably, Union Lacrosse has a booster club and a group of Trustees who became major backers of the program.  It's helped pump in resources for coaching and recruiting, from what I understand.  Unfortunately, the same has not happened for Union Football -- the booster club for Football has experienced a scenario whereby funds raised have come out the other end.  In other words, fundraising through the booster club has become a budget line instead of discretionary.  You'd be absolutely shocked at what the Football booster club fundraising actually funds presently.

It's ass ****ing backwards if you ask dlip (he knows no one did  ) The athletic administration and the college should be ****ing ashamed of themselves.

[D3pc]

Still have a pretty good record with picks so far. Tomorrow's games include...

12:00 Springfield @ RPI

I still think Springfield will finish with a .500 record, and with games remaining against RPI and WPI(H), they are more likely to drop this one tomorrow. RPI has continued to impress this year with losses to 2 good opponents in Alfred and SLU. Both were on the road, and the Alfred game had some rain which does not favor RPI and their passing game. Not saying they definitely win that game, but if its a nice day and maybe at home i think they could take that one. Anyway, I think RPI stays motivated to finish the year 8-2 and play in the ECAC game (which they put in a bid for). RPI has continued to be around a .500 team for the past decade so this could really be a nice year with wins over Hobart and rochester already. RPI wins 36-20.

12:00 Union @ USMMA

Union's 2 games left are against Kings Point and RPI in the shoes game. Now obviously RPI is the best team out of the three, but in hardware games anything can happen. However, this is there best and last shot to get a win in 2015. If it doesn't happen here, it ain't happenin'. It's also Kings Points senior day, and with they way their season has gone, they have shown they can play well with teams. Im not if they would technically be the favorite here, but their record says so. I'll say Union takes this one, but I've been wrong in calling them to win each time so far so who knows. 1-9 really isn't better than 0-10 anyway. They both will lead to a coaching change. Union wins 30-28.

12:00 Rochester @ WPI

This is actually a very good game tomorrow, only to be overshadowed by the last one listed. Both Teams started hot, and have a chance to finish with their best respective record in years. A win here would solidify that for either team. Rochester may or may not have Bronson under center, but their backup proved he could get the job done against Union. WPI got smoked against SLU last week, but they know there is still plenty to play for here to finish with a potential 7-3 record. With a young group, they could really build some momentum. The same thing can be said with Rochester, they do play hobart next week, but i win here would put them at 6-2 (only 9 game schedule). Tough, tough call here. I want to pick WPI, but I think Rochester's history of heroic comebacks continues. Either way, i predict a close one. Rochester wins 31-30.

12:00 SLU @ Hobart

We were all hoping this would be the game of the year in the Liberty League. The game that decided the conference champ. Well, technically it still can be for SLU, but it's just not the same. However, Hobart picked the right time to kick start there offense with 52 points last week against Union. Senior day, at home, and its still freaking Hobart we are talking about here. SLU all but has the title wrapped up, I hate to see them blow this one. However, the hatred is real between these two teams. I hope the next time they shuffle the conference schedule it puts these two at the end of the year. There is much respect between the two, but much hatred. Last year's game was epic. It had lead changes, weather, explosive plays, controversial plays, and ultimately yes, the better team won. Ball security will be of focus for Hobart, but I think the saints finally beat the Statesmen for the first time since 2010. It's just been that kind of year for Hobart. And no, it wouldn't surprise me if either team won. I'll take St Lawrence in a good one, 27-24.

[dlippiel]

A few things...
Dlip really saw the potential for Hobart to defeat SLU today after the way the Statesmen looked last week. IDHO the was SLU's year to really pull away and stand out. Dlip understands how ****ty the officiating was (also see Fisher vs.Wick) however if it really was SLU's year they would not have relinquished that 10 pt lead.

With that said Dlip is so impressed with the program SLU has become and is a big fan of the Saints and hopes they can still do what they need to in order to win the LL title.

Congrats to Hobert on the big win. This is just how good this program has become that during a "down/rebuilding" year they can still defeat the preseason favorite and current league leader. Hats off to coach Cragg, the players, the alum, and the entire program. That team is filled with athletes!

Congrats to RPI pulling out the win today in Troylet over the Pride. Dlip really likes the way Avery and the Engineers play. They are composed and methodical. They do not panic and Avery plays with a **** load of confidence.

Congrats to WPI on their W today over Roc Cha Cha. The "other" Engineers or "bizarroneers" are having an excellent season for sure. Dlip always bitches about how they continue to be the boring basement dweller of the league and lose to the likes of Norwich (which drives Dlip nucking futs!

Also great job by MMA to dominate the hapless Dutchmen today down in King's Point. Dlip was very impressed with MMA today and is very happy for them on their season thus far. Dlip reiterates Frank's thought regarding the lack of attendance at that game on Senior day. Dlip respects the shiznit out of the MMA players and coaches and wishes more people came out to appreciate the seniors down there.

On Union, well... it's been a very tough year to say the least. Maybe there will be some magic next week...

[pg04]

Any chance St. L lays an egg next week against MMA? Seems improbable but this year...

RPI still has to take care of their business, but the last week, at least, will contain some conference questions.

[D3MAFAN]

The way the east region is setup, I wouldn't be surprise if they did in fact lose next week...

[Bartman]

Any chance St. L lays an egg next week against MMA? Seems improbable but this year...

RPI still has to take care of their business, but the last week, at least, will contain some conference questions.

Hobart D had a tough time against the Mariners option and I think the Larrys D may also be vulnerable on the edges but the Larrys are a wall in the middle so Mariners need to game plan around the gut of the Larry D. Larrys Oline is not sack proof  and Mariners stunt well and could cause some hurried passes for turnovers. I think an upset is possible but it will take the Mariners playing the perfect game.
    Unfortunately, I see a very small path to victory for the Dutchman unless the passing game has an epic revival , as  RPI is a very well balanced team having beaten Hobart straight  up at the Boz( although the cardiac kids almost pulled off the last second win).The magic Shoes need to be worn by the Duchmen to win this year.....as emotions could carry the day.
  The chances of both of these 2 upsets happening are about 1 in 20, but hey I still buy lottery tickets once in a while...you never know...

[pg04]

Anyone have the 3-way tiebreaking rules for the LL in the unlikely event pigs fly next week?

Why are these things always so difficult to find. Google hasn't helped me at all. I think only Frank Rossi can help me now.

[Bartman]

Anyone have the 3-way tiebreaking rules for the LL in the unlikely event pigs fly next week?

Why are these things always so difficult to find. Google hasn't helped me at all. I think only Frank Rossi can help me now.

I think it is the average GPA of the starters. Academics matter in the LL 

[Frank Rossi]

For the first time, we have to discuss the second tiebreaker instead of the third tiebreaker if Union and USMMA beat RPI and SLU, respectively, and Hobart beats Rochester.  After head-to-head comes:

"2.    Comparison of records between tied institutions beginning with the lowest conference finisher and continuing through the highest conference finisher.  If more than two teams are tied, at the point one team has been eliminated, revert back to step 1 (head-to-head results)."

The three teams would have lost to different LL teams for their other LL loss.  Specifically, RPI's loss to Union, under this scenario, would eliminate RPI.  As such, we revert back to head-to-head between Hobart and SLU, which goes to Hobart.

Therefore, Hobart wins the LL by beating Rochester and hoping for Union and USMMA to win next week.  We do not reach the third tiebreaker like we used to when three teams each had one league loss.

Apologies for any confusion prior guidance may have caused.

[D3pc]

I just read the posts about the final play on the 'In-game updates' thread so I'll bring it back to this one...

I watched the game and it was a very good game. To put it simply, SLU just couldn't close that one out. No scores in the second half, and the defense gave up 2 long TD drives in the last 8 or so minutes of the game. On top of that, the interception with 2 mins to go should have sealed it but the inability to get a first down killed them.

As for the final play...

The St Lawrence player very easily came up with the ball, and the hobart player punched the turf in disgust because it looked like he knew he did not catch it. There is a picture floating around of a screenshot from the tight view which clearly shows the Hobart WR did not catch the ball. But there is no video review in division 3, and sometimes you just have to make a call and go with it.

This was bad for the league as the eventual winner will now have 2 (or 3) losses. But with Wesley, Del Val, and SLU all with a loss yesterday, the East is anyones to take. I suspect Mt Union to be an 'East' team and what does this now say for WNE/Salve and Framingham? They could now potentially be hosts.