FB: Liberty League

[pumkinattack]

I always liked the term "as cool as an enema" personally.

[unionpalooza]

Tells me a lot of voters are still anchored in last year.

This. I agree with Mach, strange to see RPI get 30 votes, but not WPI. Or Brockport still getting votes. Makes me think that some voters aren't even looking at results. 

I'd assume the amount of time and effort voters put into staying informed varies widely, and as a whole has a pretty backward looking bias.  I tend to think of it as the conventional wisdom point of view.  Which is fine - it's just a parlor game, anyhow.  This early in the season, you don't know what you don't know.  (Though the idea RPI gets vote but WPI doesn't is silly.)

[Bengalsrule]

0-3 start is not what I had envisioned for my beloved BENGALS.  Hopefully things will change soon. Those boys are working real hard. 

Go BENGALS

[Bartman]

0-3 start is not what I had envisioned for my beloved BENGALS.  Hopefully things will change soon. Those boys are working real hard. 

Go BENGALS

The good news for the Bengals is that you are in the LL now and the first 3 games don't count. The bad news is that you joined when 4 of the teams look strong. I'm sure the Bengals will let their claws be felt before the end of the season . One question, from the stats of the game, it looks like Brockport has found their offense since the Hobart game..... are they still the favorite in the E8?

[Bartman]

I'll do you all a favor and take a sabbatical. Enjoy the season.

Oh come on, just because you made Oline shoot coffee out of his nose?  This action could jinx RPI football this season.

[Bombers798891]

I think it's Cortland.

I know Brockport threw for 191 yards and 3 TDs. But they still went just 6-for-12 passing, with a pick and a sack on 13 dropbacks (not counting scrambles). That is not a team that has necessarily solved its passing issues.

It looks like they were just physically able to run over BSU, with 7 YPC on 53 attempts. Which is what they should do against an opponent like that. But Cortland isn't Buff State.

And this isn't me overreacting to Cortland beating two lousy teams to open the year. Lest we forget, Port needed a last-second interception to beat Cortland at home last year.

[ITH radio]

I think you're right, but will have to wait and see.

[Oline89]

I think it's Cortland.

I know Brockport threw for 191 yards and 3 TDs. But they still went just 6-for-12 passing, with a pick and a sack on 13 dropbacks (not counting scrambles). That is not a team that has necessarily solved its passing issues.

It looks like they were just physically able to run over BSU, with 7 YPC on 53 attempts. Which is what they should do against an opponent like that. But Cortland isn't Buff State.

And this isn't me overreacting to Cortland beating two lousy teams to open the year. Lest we forget, Port needed a last-second interception to beat Cortland at home last year.

If B Port has really given up on their passing QB (or maybe he is still injured?), then I agree they may no longer be the favorites.  E8 champ is then up for grabs: SJF is undefeated, Utica is surprising teams, Cortland has yet to be tested.  IF BPort can put together any passing game, then I would still make them the favorite, their D is very very good.

[Bombers798891]

I think it's Cortland.

I know Brockport threw for 191 yards and 3 TDs. But they still went just 6-for-12 passing, with a pick and a sack on 13 dropbacks (not counting scrambles). That is not a team that has necessarily solved its passing issues.

It looks like they were just physically able to run over BSU, with 7 YPC on 53 attempts. Which is what they should do against an opponent like that. But Cortland isn't Buff State.

And this isn't me overreacting to Cortland beating two lousy teams to open the year. Lest we forget, Port needed a last-second interception to beat Cortland at home last year.

If B Port has really given up on their passing QB (or maybe he is still injured?), then I agree they may no longer be the favorites.  E8 champ is then up for grabs: SJF is undefeated, Utica is surprising teams, Cortland has yet to be tested.  IF BPort can put together any passing game, then I would still make them the favorite, their D is very very good.

We're going to learn a lot about Fisher this weekend when they play IC

[boobyhasgameyo]

I think it's Cortland.

I know Brockport threw for 191 yards and 3 TDs. But they still went just 6-for-12 passing, with a pick and a sack on 13 dropbacks (not counting scrambles). That is not a team that has necessarily solved its passing issues.

It looks like they were just physically able to run over BSU, with 7 YPC on 53 attempts. Which is what they should do against an opponent like that. But Cortland isn't Buff State.

And this isn't me overreacting to Cortland beating two lousy teams to open the year. Lest we forget, Port needed a last-second interception to beat Cortland at home last year.

If B Port has really given up on their passing QB (or maybe he is still injured?), then I agree they may no longer be the favorites.  E8 champ is then up for grabs: SJF is undefeated, Utica is surprising teams, Cortland has yet to be tested.  IF BPort can put together any passing game, then I would still make them the favorite, their D is very very good.

We're going to learn a lot about Fisher this weekend when they play IC

They're maddeningly inconsistent.  At times they look great, but the majority of the time they do not.  Look at TCNJ.  Had a 16-5 lead on Fisher through nearly 3 quarters and were mostly in control until Fisher just clicked and dropped 35 unanswered in a little over a quarter.  Me thinks if they played the way they did the first 3 quarters against TCNJ with Ithaca they are going to dig a massive hole they can't recover from.  Would be sick if they could put together a full and consistent game.  They do have a pretty decent ceiling. 

[Bartman]

I think it's Cortland.

I know Brockport threw for 191 yards and 3 TDs. But they still went just 6-for-12 passing, with a pick and a sack on 13 dropbacks (not counting scrambles). That is not a team that has necessarily solved its passing issues.

It looks like they were just physically able to run over BSU, with 7 YPC on 53 attempts. Which is what they should do against an opponent like that. But Cortland isn't Buff State.

And this isn't me overreacting to Cortland beating two lousy teams to open the year. Lest we forget, Port needed a last-second interception to beat Cortland at home last year.

If B Port has really given up on their passing QB (or maybe he is still injured?), then I agree they may no longer be the favorites.  E8 champ is then up for grabs: SJF is undefeated, Utica is surprising teams, Cortland has yet to be tested.  IF BPort can put together any passing game, then I would still make them the favorite, their D is very very good.

We're going to learn a lot about Fisher this weekend when they play IC

They're maddeningly inconsistent.  At times they look great, but the majority of the time they do not.  Look at TCNJ.  Had a 16-5 lead on Fisher through nearly 3 quarters and were mostly in control until Fisher just clicked and dropped 35 unanswered in a little over a quarter.  Me thinks if they played the way they did the first 3 quarters against TCNJ with Ithaca they are going to dig a massive hole they can't recover from.  Would be sick if they could put together a full and consistent game.  They do have a pretty decent ceiling.

I would love for the Fishermen to make this competitive and continue progressing, but I think IC is just putting everything together week by week( as everyone is). But they have a high ceiling if the defense comes along. Stopping two 50 + Alfred drives on downs is a good start. I'm thinking this is 38-14 , as the Bombers offense shows us more looks

[Bombers798891]

One thing to watch out for regarding Fisher's offense: IC's special teams is going to make you work for it this year

2018:
IC punters - 34.4 avg
IC kickers- 52.6 avg, 1 TB

2019
IC punters: 44.7 avg
IC kickers: 61.3 avg, 8 TB

Distances can be skewed by all sorts of things, but even so, I think it's clear that the ST is much improved.

[Ice Bear]

One thing to watch out for regarding Fisher's offense: IC's special teams is going to make you work for it this year

2018:
IC punters - 34.4 avg
IC kickers- 52.6 avg, 1 TB

2019
IC punters: 44.7 avg
IC kickers: 61.3 avg, 8 TB

Distances can be skewed by all sorts of things, but even so, I think it's clear that the ST is much improved.

Ice Bear says those are nice numbers. Little things like that make a HUGE difference!

[boobyhasgameyo]

Another thing not in Fisher's favor for this Saturday is their pass defense.  Rush defense has actually been pretty stout so far.  But in the two games i've seen so far the corners are getting exposed.  Specifically in man coverage.  Multiple times where the receivers have gotten separation on deep routes and the only reason it didn't connect for long TD's is because the quarterback just flat out missed on the throw. 

The safeties actually provide decent help over the top when they are actually there (I think Rodriguez already has 5 interceptions on the season).  But if it's one on one then I think Ithaca has this sort of ok quarterback who will make them pay dearly. 

[Bartman]

One thing to watch out for regarding Fisher's offense: IC's special teams is going to make you work for it this year

2018:
IC punters - 34.4 avg
IC kickers- 52.6 avg, 1 TB

2019
IC punters: 44.7 avg
IC kickers: 61.3 avg, 8 TB

Distances can be skewed by all sorts of things, but even so, I think it's clear that the ST is much improved.

Very impressive kicking stats so far for both kickoffs and punts, especially TBs on kickoffs. You need the length at Butterfield as the roll after kicks is more limited when the grass is cut high(assume it is still grass)...... maybe new talents will put maintenance on order to super trim ..