FB: Liberty League

[Machiavelli]

Well, not IMPOSSIBLE, but terminally stupid!  If Union went up 27-20 in OT, Ithaca COULD then kick a FG!

OR, IC could go up 23-20, then Union score a TD and everyone forget the game is now over and Union adds the EP!

Many things are highly implausible; few things are flat-out impossible.

So I can't find the exact rules for OT online for the NCAA but how about this:

Score is tied 21-21 going into overtime.

Ithaca has the ball first and throws an interception.  The Union player who intercepts it tries to lateral it in the end zone and it goes out of bounds (or some other scenario where Union creates a turnover and then commits a safety).  Ithaca leads 23-21.

Union then gets their turn with the ball down 23-21 and scores a TD.  Game would end 27-23.

I just can't find a rule regarding safeties in overtime for the defense in the NCAA.  I did find out that in Pro football on two point conversions at least that the safety in that situation is one point.  The ncaa rule isn't clear from what I'm gathering.

You're a dick. Just for that, GO UNION!

[Bartman]

Well, not IMPOSSIBLE, but terminally stupid!  If Union went up 27-20 in OT, Ithaca COULD then kick a FG!

OR, IC could go up 23-20, then Union score a TD and everyone forget the game is now over and Union adds the EP!

Many things are highly implausible; few things are flat-out impossible.

So I can't find the exact rules for OT online for the NCAA but how about this:

Score is tied 21-21 going into overtime.

Ithaca has the ball first and throws an interception.  The Union player who intercepts it tries to lateral it in the end zone and it goes out of bounds (or some other scenario where Union creates a turnover and then commits a safety).  Ithaca leads 23-21.

Union then gets their turn with the ball down 23-21 and scores a TD.  Game would end 27-23.

I just can't find a rule regarding safeties in overtime for the defense in the NCAA.  I did find out that in Pro football on two point conversions at least that the safety in that situation is one point.  The ncaa rule isn't clear from what I'm gathering.

Jonny,
      +k, Nice way to validate Ufan's prediction . Now having Mach root for the U , that is just so unnatural.
Good luck to both teams today ......Bartman is jealous of the U and Bomber squads and fans today .

[Ice Bear]

Well, not IMPOSSIBLE, but terminally stupid!  If Union went up 27-20 in OT, Ithaca COULD then kick a FG!

OR, IC could go up 23-20, then Union score a TD and everyone forget the game is now over and Union adds the EP!

Many things are highly implausible; few things are flat-out impossible.

So I can't find the exact rules for OT online for the NCAA but how about this:

Score is tied 21-21 going into overtime.

Ithaca has the ball first and throws an interception.  The Union player who intercepts it tries to lateral it in the end zone and it goes out of bounds (or some other scenario where Union creates a turnover and then commits a safety).  Ithaca leads 23-21.

Union then gets their turn with the ball down 23-21 and scores a TD.  Game would end 27-23.

I just can't find a rule regarding safeties in overtime for the defense in the NCAA.  I did find out that in Pro football on two point conversions at least that the safety in that situation is one point.  The ncaa rule isn't clear from what I'm gathering.

You're a dick. Just for that, GO UNION!

Ice Bear says whether or not you mean that Mach, those words you typed, cannot be undone in Ice Bear's mind...ever. Good luck to your Engineers this afternoon pal. Ice thinks they will get back on track today and gain some momentum for the Shoes game.

[Machiavelli]

JU is a horrible human, Robstercraw was spot on. I stand by my statement.

[Pat Coleman]

Well, not IMPOSSIBLE, but terminally stupid!  If Union went up 27-20 in OT, Ithaca COULD then kick a FG!

OR, IC could go up 23-20, then Union score a TD and everyone forget the game is now over and Union adds the EP!

Many things are highly implausible; few things are flat-out impossible.

So I can't find the exact rules for OT online for the NCAA but how about this:

Score is tied 21-21 going into overtime.

Ithaca has the ball first and throws an interception.  The Union player who intercepts it tries to lateral it in the end zone and it goes out of bounds (or some other scenario where Union creates a turnover and then commits a safety).  Ithaca leads 23-21.

Union then gets their turn with the ball down 23-21 and scores a TD.  Game would end 27-23.

I just can't find a rule regarding safeties in overtime for the defense in the NCAA.  I did find out that in Pro football on two point conversions at least that the safety in that situation is one point.  The ncaa rule isn't clear from what I'm gathering.

Maybe more likely scenario here -- game tied 21-21 going into overtime. Team A scores a touchdown on its possession but Team B blocks the extra point and returns it for a defensive two-point conversion. Team A leads Team B 27-23, then holds Team B scoreless on its possession and the game ends with that score.

[Machiavelli]

Well, not IMPOSSIBLE, but terminally stupid!  If Union went up 27-20 in OT, Ithaca COULD then kick a FG!

OR, IC could go up 23-20, then Union score a TD and everyone forget the game is now over and Union adds the EP!

Many things are highly implausible; few things are flat-out impossible.

So I can't find the exact rules for OT online for the NCAA but how about this:

Score is tied 21-21 going into overtime.

Ithaca has the ball first and throws an interception.  The Union player who intercepts it tries to lateral it in the end zone and it goes out of bounds (or some other scenario where Union creates a turnover and then commits a safety).  Ithaca leads 23-21.

Union then gets their turn with the ball down 23-21 and scores a TD.  Game would end 27-23.

I just can't find a rule regarding safeties in overtime for the defense in the NCAA.  I did find out that in Pro football on two point conversions at least that the safety in that situation is one point.  The ncaa rule isn't clear from what I'm gathering.

Maybe more likely scenario here -- game tied 21-21 going into overtime. Team A scores a touchdown on its possession but Team B blocks the extra point and returns it for a defensive two-point conversion. Team A leads Team B 27-23, then holds Team B scoreless on its possession and the game ends with that score.

Buncha jerks. Okay so 'physically impossible' appears to be strong. 'Astronomically unlikely' feels better anyway.

[Machiavelli]

Original post update. GO UNION!

[Jonny Utah]

JU is a horrible human, Robstercraw was spot on. I stand by my statement.

TASTE IT

[Machiavelli]

I'm currently torn with my 35-17 Ithaca win prediction vs my 'Go Union!' Posts. Ithaca can definitely pull off 3 unanswered tds here and Mach wins again. Or Union hangs on and Mach wins again. Everything coming up Millhouse.

[Jonny Utah]

Well, I wish I could pull a UfanBill and say Ithaca should have won that game but I can't.  Union outplayed them and out coached them.  I don't think Ithaca deserves a pool c after this.  Beat Cortland and just hope Swanstrom can recruit another QB and running back to balance out this team for the future.

Union oline was better than Ithaca's dline, unions dline was better than Ithaca's oline.  Ike made the reads that exposed Ithaca's linebackers and unions defensive passing scheme was the best I've seen this year.  Union has nice play action and Ithaca has none.  Ithaca has had 3-4 TDs this year each game on fluky prayer plays and they had zero today (dropped two).   

Sounds like RPI is not good enough to make their game a challenge, but I'd hope Union is careful this week.

[Machiavelli]

Like I said, Union by a hundred. Go Union!

[Ithaca798891]

Great and deserved win by Union. Will wonder about the 4th and 1 attempt for awhile. Within Bahamonde's range.

Ithaca isn't dead yet, but they need Cortland to hang on. A loss to a 10-0 Union with a win over a RR Cortland might get them in. It would help a lot if Hobart can be regionally ranked. IC also has to now avoid a trap game. I don't think RPI is good, given that they squeaked by Buff State of all teams. But this is a tough loss to take, and the Cortland game has been circled for awhile.

Let's also remember this: IC might have been ranked higher, and many of us, myself included, picked this one wrong. But Union is 8-0 for a reason. Losing to them is hardly a bad loss. The Dutchmen are very good, so writing off the Bombers' season is unwarranted.

[Bartman]

As I thought, a Union win. Congrats to both teams for a hard fought game. Union might even move up to # 20 this week😀

[Jonny Utah]

Great and deserved win by Union. Will wonder about the 4th and 1 attempt for awhile. Within Bahamonde's range.

Ithaca isn't dead yet, but they need Cortland to hang on. A loss to a 10-0 Union with a win over a RR Cortland might get them in. It would help a lot if Hobart can be regionally ranked. IC also has to now avoid a trap game. I don't think RPI is good, given that they squeaked by Buff State of all teams. But this is a tough loss to take, and the Cortland game has been circled for awhile.

Let's also remember this: IC might have been ranked higher, and many of us, myself included, picked this one wrong. But Union is 8-0 for a reason. Losing to them is hardly a bad loss. The Dutchmen are very good, so writing off the Bombers' season is unwarranted.

Yea but we have known that Ithaca has had no running game all year and for some reason Union was the only team smart enough to actually do something about it (playing 5 in the box with their outside linebackers playing pass after Ithacas predictable run fakes off the inside zone that they run 90% of their runs) Joe G. Has been scrambling all year and it makes you wonder what would happen if he actually had protection long enough to let him settle in the pocket. 

I guess they can fix their run game and looking back at this game they probably should have ran it more in the first half.  The two times they ran something different than the inside zone read they actually gained some decent yards.  I'm not sure when that Garcia kid got hurt, but he's the back you probably needed in this game. 

[Jonny Utah]

Great and deserved win by Union. Will wonder about the 4th and 1 attempt for awhile. Within Bahamonde's range.

Ithaca isn't dead yet, but they need Cortland to hang on. A loss to a 10-0 Union with a win over a RR Cortland might get them in. It would help a lot if Hobart can be regionally ranked. IC also has to now avoid a trap game. I don't think RPI is good, given that they squeaked by Buff State of all teams. But this is a tough loss to take, and the Cortland game has been circled for awhile.

Let's also remember this: IC might have been ranked higher, and many of us, myself included, picked this one wrong. But Union is 8-0 for a reason. Losing to them is hardly a bad loss. The Dutchmen are very good, so writing off the Bombers' season is unwarranted.

Yea but we have known that Ithaca has had no running game all year and for some reason Union was the only team smart enough to actually do something about it (playing 5 in the box with their outside linebackers playing pass after Ithacas predictable run fakes off the inside zone that they run 90% of their runs) Joe G. Has been scrambling all year and it makes you wonder what would happen if he actually had protection long enough to let him settle in the pocket. 

I guess they can fix their run game and looking back at this game they probably should have ran it more in the first half.  The two times they ran something different than the inside zone read they actually gained some decent yards.  I'm not sure when that Garcia kid got hurt, but he's the back you probably needed in this game.

And I shouldn't sell Union short here, maybe teams tried to do what Union did today and I just didn't notice.  Union just had the better players.