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[Machiavelli]

Math says if you post the same sh!t on every message board, at least one person might read half of it. Math also says even if you post the same sh!t on every message board, still no one gives a flying fvck. Math is also my game.

Oh little Mach, you wouldn't know real math (and Algebra I is not "real math") if it came up and smacked you in your face. We can put math to the test any day, with real money and not just pocket change. Winner take all. $100K in a portfolio starting Jan 2 and let's go throughout the year. Math says that you don't have the balls, nor the funds...........even on just this one board. Remember, you were the clown who said "DelVal would get destroyed by NCC". No, that was Muhlenberg, at home. So that was your ****, just last week, on not one, but two boards. By the way, you get no head start nor points in our contest. I went to Swarthmore before it became as difficult to get into as an Ivy or NESCAC school, so I spot you squatta!! You in Machy??

Holy FREAKING Amazing!

Did you just challenge me to a Stock Market-off on a Division 3 Football message board? I drastically underestimated just how golden your contributions are(and more importantly how much your future value holds) to this message board. You just gained instant admission to the pantheon of the best EVER posters. Incredible stuff.

For the record, I actually admitted I undervalued Delaware Valley's Football Team last week. I do understand that whole admitting you were incorrect about something is a foreign subject to the land of arrogant, pretend to be elite, boners of the world like you and all. I love calling total tool nut  douchebags, 'boners' by the way. It makes me laugh. I like to laugh.

Swarthmore. Good for you. Am I supposed to be super impressed or something? Is that the big mic drop? Great school. I rarely sh|t on any colleges about education(in real life) cause does it ever REALLY reflect someone's ability for success? Not really. But do you even know what message board you're in?

Anyway, just because I want/need more of your content...sure! I'm in for $100K!!! Let's do it. Why not. Show me the way boner face. (I'm actually quite content in my current financial situation at the moment by the way, so that last comment is satire, I'm not interested, but please please PLEASE continue to tell us how awesome and rich and smart you are forever. Btw, what do you bench? What are you repping out at these days??? Asking for a friend.)

[unionpalooza]

Math says if you post the same sh!t on every message board, at least one person might read half of it. Math also says even if you post the same sh!t on every message board, still no one gives a flying fvck. Math is also my game.

Oh little Mach, you wouldn't know real math (and Algebra I is not "real math") if it came up and smacked you in your face. We can put math to the test any day, with real money and not just pocket change. Winner take all. $100K in a portfolio starting Jan 2 and let's go throughout the year. Math says that you don't have the balls, nor the funds...........even on just this one board. Remember, you were the clown who said "DelVal would get destroyed by NCC". No, that was Muhlenberg, at home. So that was your ****, just last week, on not one, but two boards. By the way, you get no head start nor points in our contest. I went to Swarthmore before it became as difficult to get into as an Ivy or NESCAC school, so I spot you squatta!! You in Machy??

Holy FREAKING Amazing!

Did you just challenge me to a Stock Market-off on a Division 3 Football message board? I drastically underestimated just how golden your contributions are(and more importantly how much your future value holds) to this message board. You just gained instant admission to the pantheon of the best EVER posters. Incredible stuff.

For the record, I actually admitted I undervalued Delaware Valley's Football Team last week. I do understand that whole admitting you were incorrect about something is a foreign subject to the land of arrogant, pretend to be elite, boners of the world like you and all. I love calling total tool nut  douchebags, 'boners' by the way. It makes me laugh. I like to laugh.

Swarthmore. Good for you. Am I supposed to be super impressed or something? Is that the big mic drop? Great school. I rarely sh|t on any colleges about education(in real life) cause does it ever REALLY reflect someone's ability for success? Not really. But do you even know what message board you're in?

Anyway, just because I want/need more of your content...sure! I'm in for $100K!!! Let's do it. Why not. Show me the way boner face. (I'm actually quite content in my current financial situation at the moment by the way, so that last comment is satire, I'm not interested, but please please PLEASE continue to tell us how awesome and rich and smart you are forever. Btw, what do you bench? What are you repping out at these days??? Asking for a friend.)

C'mon Mach, everyone knows the best portfolio managers do most of their marketing on D3boards.com.  Though the big hedge fund guys know the real action is on the women's volleyball board.  There was a dude in the Great Lakes Region bragging about his long gamma/vega neutral trading play just last week.  Said he went to Carleton.

[Jonny Utah]

Math says if you post the same sh!t on every message board, at least one person might read half of it. Math also says even if you post the same sh!t on every message board, still no one gives a flying fvck. Math is also my game.

Oh little Mach, you wouldn't know real math (and Algebra I is not "real math") if it came up and smacked you in your face. We can put math to the test any day, with real money and not just pocket change. Winner take all. $100K in a portfolio starting Jan 2 and let's go throughout the year. Math says that you don't have the balls, nor the funds...........even on just this one board. Remember, you were the clown who said "DelVal would get destroyed by NCC". No, that was Muhlenberg, at home. So that was your ****, just last week, on not one, but two boards. By the way, you get no head start nor points in our contest. I went to Swarthmore before it became as difficult to get into as an Ivy or NESCAC school, so I spot you squatta!! You in Machy??

Holy FREAKING Amazing!

Did you just challenge me to a Stock Market-off on a Division 3 Football message board? I drastically underestimated just how golden your contributions are(and more importantly how much your future value holds) to this message board. You just gained instant admission to the pantheon of the best EVER posters. Incredible stuff.

For the record, I actually admitted I undervalued Delaware Valley's Football Team last week. I do understand that whole admitting you were incorrect about something is a foreign subject to the land of arrogant, pretend to be elite, boners of the world like you and all. I love calling total tool nut  douchebags, 'boners' by the way. It makes me laugh. I like to laugh.

Swarthmore. Good for you. Am I supposed to be super impressed or something? Is that the big mic drop? Great school. I rarely sh|t on any colleges about education(in real life) cause does it ever REALLY reflect someone's ability for success? Not really. But do you even know what message board you're in?

Anyway, just because I want/need more of your content...sure! I'm in for $100K!!! Let's do it. Why not. Show me the way boner face. (I'm actually quite content in my current financial situation at the moment by the way, so that last comment is satire, I'm not interested, but please please PLEASE continue to tell us how awesome and rich and smart you are forever. Btw, what do you bench? What are you repping out at these days??? Asking for a friend.)

Wait, jmcozen, is this you?!  You are infamous!!

[Ice Bear]

Ice Bear says this is some great ****...Ice's cup has runneth over...

[Pat Coleman]

Math says if you post the same sh!t on every message board, at least one person might read half of it. Math also says even if you post the same sh!t on every message board, still no one gives a flying fvck. Math is also my game.

Oh little Mach, you wouldn't know real math (and Algebra I is not "real math") if it came up and smacked you in your face. We can put math to the test any day, with real money and not just pocket change. Winner take all. $100K in a portfolio starting Jan 2 and let's go throughout the year. Math says that you don't have the balls, nor the funds...........even on just this one board. Remember, you were the clown who said "DelVal would get destroyed by NCC". No, that was Muhlenberg, at home. So that was your ****, just last week, on not one, but two boards. By the way, you get no head start nor points in our contest. I went to Swarthmore before it became as difficult to get into as an Ivy or NESCAC school, so I spot you squatta!! You in Machy??

Holy FREAKING Amazing!

Did you just challenge me to a Stock Market-off on a Division 3 Football message board? I drastically underestimated just how golden your contributions are(and more importantly how much your future value holds) to this message board. You just gained instant admission to the pantheon of the best EVER posters. Incredible stuff.

For the record, I actually admitted I undervalued Delaware Valley's Football Team last week. I do understand that whole admitting you were incorrect about something is a foreign subject to the land of arrogant, pretend to be elite, boners of the world like you and all. I love calling total tool nut  douchebags, 'boners' by the way. It makes me laugh. I like to laugh.

Swarthmore. Good for you. Am I supposed to be super impressed or something? Is that the big mic drop? Great school. I rarely sh|t on any colleges about education(in real life) cause does it ever REALLY reflect someone's ability for success? Not really. But do you even know what message board you're in?

Anyway, just because I want/need more of your content...sure! I'm in for $100K!!! Let's do it. Why not. Show me the way boner face. (I'm actually quite content in my current financial situation at the moment by the way, so that last comment is satire, I'm not interested, but please please PLEASE continue to tell us how awesome and rich and smart you are forever. Btw, what do you bench? What are you repping out at these days??? Asking for a friend.)

Wait, jmcozen, is this you?!  You are infamous!!

Good pull!

[Bartman]

Wait a minute....The biggest defender of the Del Val Aggies is a Swathmore alum stock picker and has challenged Mach the RPIer,  basement dwelling, dog loving, potty posting  king of sarcasm to a 100k investment challenge? Mach responds with a bench pressing challenge.....Each is based on math(although maybe not "real math") for determining the winner ..... investment return superiority versus the simplicity and purity of counting bench reps....the mind vs. the body ....how will this challenge end? Will it escalate to an official duel...all over whether the Aggies have gotten proper respect and are a better team than the Mules based on the box score stats from losses to NCC in the playoffs? I am amused....but in the big picture the East had some very good teams but the Stagg Bowl is still  a few touchdowns away

[Jonny Utah]

Math says if you post the same sh!t on every message board, at least one person might read half of it. Math also says even if you post the same sh!t on every message board, still no one gives a flying fvck. Math is also my game.

Oh little Mach, you wouldn't know real math (and Algebra I is not "real math") if it came up and smacked you in your face. We can put math to the test any day, with real money and not just pocket change. Winner take all. $100K in a portfolio starting Jan 2 and let's go throughout the year. Math says that you don't have the balls, nor the funds...........even on just this one board. Remember, you were the clown who said "DelVal would get destroyed by NCC". No, that was Muhlenberg, at home. So that was your ****, just last week, on not one, but two boards. By the way, you get no head start nor points in our contest. I went to Swarthmore before it became as difficult to get into as an Ivy or NESCAC school, so I spot you squatta!! You in Machy??

Holy FREAKING Amazing!

Did you just challenge me to a Stock Market-off on a Division 3 Football message board? I drastically underestimated just how golden your contributions are(and more importantly how much your future value holds) to this message board. You just gained instant admission to the pantheon of the best EVER posters. Incredible stuff.

For the record, I actually admitted I undervalued Delaware Valley's Football Team last week. I do understand that whole admitting you were incorrect about something is a foreign subject to the land of arrogant, pretend to be elite, boners of the world like you and all. I love calling total tool nut  douchebags, 'boners' by the way. It makes me laugh. I like to laugh.

Swarthmore. Good for you. Am I supposed to be super impressed or something? Is that the big mic drop? Great school. I rarely sh|t on any colleges about education(in real life) cause does it ever REALLY reflect someone's ability for success? Not really. But do you even know what message board you're in?

Anyway, just because I want/need more of your content...sure! I'm in for $100K!!! Let's do it. Why not. Show me the way boner face. (I'm actually quite content in my current financial situation at the moment by the way, so that last comment is satire, I'm not interested, but please please PLEASE continue to tell us how awesome and rich and smart you are forever. Btw, what do you bench? What are you repping out at these days??? Asking for a friend.)

C'mon Mach, everyone knows the best portfolio managers do most of their marketing on D3boards.com.  Though the big hedge fund guys know the real action is on the women's volleyball board.  There was a dude in the Great Lakes Region bragging about his long gamma/vega neutral trading play just last week.  Said he went to Carleton.

I think Cozy is onto something.  The d3 football landscape has changed from who scores the most points, to who controls the ball the most, to actual stock market prices of companies closest to the actual schools playing.  Look at this:

There is a company called Dover Corp which is headquartered in Downers Grove, IL.  For those unfamiliar with basic geography of the Prairie State, Downers Grove is a quick 30 minute drive to NCC.  Dover Corp basically manufactures industrial products and equipment but just like NCC the value of the company/team has skyrocketed in 2019.  DOV has a 52 week range of 65.13-115.13 and opened today at 114.06!!  I don't own any Dover Corp. stock but I should have bought back in late 2018 after seeing what other companies did in other d3 towns across the region.  With a Yield at 1.72%, this company should be favored on Friday nights closing. 

Now let's compare to what UWW has to offer and where things get interesting:

The largest S&P 500 company closest to UWW is a company called Fiserv.  These guys basically are a financial services company and if you had to compare them to the Dover Corp at face value, they blow them out of the water.  Just like the UWW/NCC matchup, Fiserv has a larger history of winning, bigger outputs, and overall a more impressive resume.  And like UWW, these guys started out their 6M forecast at a much smaller price, and have peaked at the right time.  Like the Dover Corp, the 52W numbers are similar and their one year growth is at an impressive 35%!  I of course have Fiserv in my portfolio, as I would hope Cozy would too.  It's an impressive company and you would be a fool to bet against them.

So Cozy was right after all.  Math does matter.  As for the game?

UWW/Fiserv: $114.83
NCC/Dover Corp: $114.06

(These are actual opening stock prices fellas from today.  I predict an solid week with not much change in these numbers.)

DOV/NCC: 113.65     FISV/UWW:  116.75  

[jmcozenlaw]

Math is my game. Numbers are my life (manage risk capital for people with a lot of money..........and continue to short volatility thru leveraged ETP's and ETN's ).

Here are a few numbers:

Muhlenberg has given up 7 more points, AT HOME, at THE HALF than DelVal did to North Central, ON THE ROAD, FOR THE GAME.

Muhlenberg gave up 334 yards in the FIRST HALF. DelVal gave up, on the road, 365 yards, FOR THE GAME.

Greenfield has run for 132 yards in the FIRST HALF. DelVal held him to 95 on 28 carries, FOR THE GAME.

Kamienski has 11 catches for 132 yards AND 4 TD's in the FIRST HALF. DelVal gave him 7 catches for 82 yards and 1 TD, FOR THE GAME.

Math is beautiful. Math has irrefutable laws. Math is beautiful, she's sassy. I love you math.

Eh, math is a harsh mistress.  DVC might have wanted to go long volatility this year, given it managed to lose to Wesley by 8 and beat them by 35 in the same season.  That sorta suggests to me that the math of which you speak has its limits.

Long volatility is a suckers game 98% of the time, especially with leverage. TVIX has reverse split 7 times since inception. 25,000,000 shares today leaves you with a single, lonely share after the December 2, 1-10 reverse split. DVU (not C) knows better than to go long volatility....................and the stats, for both teams, in multiple OT's (4 in this case), are quite bogus and serve to falsely skew numbers, and therefore, legit math.

It was a 6 point game (not 8) and both teams held each other to 3 points in regulation (that's how I look at defensive points per game over a season..........not with 4 OT's and starting field position skewing the beauty of legit math). If DVU's kicker hits a gimme FG, it's a 6-3 DVU victory........and as a result, probably three home games (including NCC in round 3) followed by a trip to Muhlenberg........and then on to getting crushed by UWW (facilities nicer than any of the PA D-II PSAC schools...........and cheaper tuition).

When it mattered most against Wesley (on the road, against a higher seeded team, in the playoffs)...................DVU gave up 7 more points than they did to Wesley just 11 weeks earlier, where as Wesley gave up 42 MORE REGULATION POINTS then they had in their meeting, on the road, just 11 weeks earlier.

Math, as beautiful as she is, can bite you in the keyster, especially when security is watching your mind work at the Blackjack table and you are escorted out and banned. Damn you math........and damn you Borgata!!!!!

[Machiavelli]

[Jonny Utah]

Ice Bear will make his picks even though he is not consistent picker...nose picker yes, game/score picker not so much.

NCC 52
Del Val 10

Ice Bear says the score is closer than the game will be. A young Aggies team gets a taste of the next level. It will help for years to come...just not this year.

Salisbury 17
Mules 48

IB would love to see the Gulls run all ****ing over the Mules...but he just doesn't see it happening to that stingy Mules D that may prove to be damn close to that elite tier this season. Ice feels the Gulls are just not as close to that tier as the Mules are.

Ice Bear says unfortunately he sees sees the East getting monkey stomped and shut out this weekend.  Ice says it's been a great year in the east but this will be as far as our beloved region goes.

, I respect your honesty.

I think the monkeys will stay in their cages this weekend, but I do see Delaware Valley losing by 2 TDs and The Mules and Seagulls having an exciting game with the Mules winning by a TD, 52-45. The Mules are better than the Union D, but I don't see the Seagulls  denied multiple trips to the end zone. The only other comment I have is when does a team from Allentown, PA end up in the South region? ......I know the answer, but hey, lots of teams in the East are south of Allentown. I am rooting for Coach Milne to take the Mules all the way ....but if they faulter, I am happy to root on the Seagulls as a true champ from the East. If I am wrong on the close game forecast and the monkeys are out stomping, hats off to IB.

I mean how can you go against the team that goes to Mt. Union and wins?  On the other hand, that is probably the biggest game those guys have every won in their lives.  Let down games are ripe after situations like this.

I haven't watched the Mules much to be honest.  I'm guessing they can figure out a way to stop Salisbury and put some points on.  But I don't care how good the Mules defense was to this point in the season, defending the Triple Option is a different beast.

I'm actually interested in the St. Johns/Wheaton game.  I love how St. Johns goes from 5 wide to 22 personnel whenever they want.  I'm guessing Wheaton isn't going to gamble with cover 1/0 like Chapman did last week.

As for UWW and MHB.  MHB's TOP numbers are pathetic.  UWW wins this one 31:38 to 28:22

I'm still looking to see who Mount Union is playing this week.  Very strange not to see them in the quarterfinals.

Teams beating Mt. Union on the road in the playoffs have never won the next week in the past 25 years.  Except this year when NCC beat Del Val.  Is Del Val that bad that NCC could overcome the odds and all of the math and science that was stacked against them?  Is NCC that good?  I would drop Del Val out of the poll after that loss if we go by math alone....

[Pat Coleman]

Teams beating Mt. Union on the road in the playoffs have never won the next week in the past 25 years.  Except this year when NCC beat Del Val.  Is Del Val that bad that NCC could overcome the odds and all of the math and science that was stacked against them?  Is NCC that good?  I would drop Del Val out of the poll after that loss if we go by math alone....

In fairness, that was a really small sample. Two teams won at Mount Union, then lost the next week (1999 Rowan, 2004 UMHB). One team won at Mount Union, then won the next week (2019 North Central).

[Jonny Utah]

Teams beating Mt. Union on the road in the playoffs have never won the next week in the past 25 years.  Except this year when NCC beat Del Val.  Is Del Val that bad that NCC could overcome the odds and all of the math and science that was stacked against them?  Is NCC that good?  I would drop Del Val out of the poll after that loss if we go by math alone....

In fairness, that was a really small sample. Two teams won at Mount Union, then lost the next week (1999 Rowan, 2004 UMHB). One team won at Mount Union, then won the next week (2019 North Central).

I am joking 100%.  But I still think in this case NCC was ripe for a letdown after winning that game.  Del Val may have benefited from that.  Or DelVal could have been a damn good football team that had their coaches prepared for the game.  I'm going with the one that doesn't involve math but involves football.

[Machiavelli]

Teams beating Mt. Union on the road in the playoffs have never won the next week in the past 25 years.  Except this year when NCC beat Del Val.  Is Del Val that bad that NCC could overcome the odds and all of the math and science that was stacked against them?  Is NCC that good?  I would drop Del Val out of the poll after that loss if we go by math alone....

In fairness, that was a really small sample. Two teams won at Mount Union, then lost the next week (1999 Rowan, 2004 UMHB). One team won at Mount Union, then won the next week (2019 North Central).

Once is a fluke. Twice is a trend. When n > 1, I follow the trend 100 times out of 100.

[Jonny Utah]

Back to football for a second.

Are d3 teams involved in this transfer portal concept?  It seems that getting D1 QB transfers are the way to the top.  D3 schools would be foolish not to look at these d1 programs for their next quarterback.  I never really thought about it until this year for some reason.   

[Doid23]

Wait a minute.... ..... investment return superiority versus the simplicity and purity of counting bench reps....the mind vs. the body ....how will this challenge end?

You wait a minute Bartman, are you trying to combine investing and bench pressing in one contest? I think we ALL know who would win said contest: The one, the only,...