FB: Liberty League

[Doid23]

Eh, math is a harsh mistress.  DVC might have wanted to go long volatility this year, given it managed to lose to Wesley by 8 and beat them by 35 in the same season.  That sorta suggests to me that the math of which you speak has its limits.

This. Taking one data point (especially one involving teenage boys, a ton of emotion, matchups, etc.) and using it to make a case, is absurd. You seem to be a math savant, investigate the Transitive Property of Sports Scores, and let me know what you find. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/math-meets-football-the-transitive-property-is-real
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[jamtod]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

[Jonny Utah]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

Jamtod:  not sure how much you have been paying attention, but TOP is now a secondary factor.  Stock prices, math, and portfolios will now determine who is the better team.

Being a Tommies fan you're in luck.  Target is a great Minnesota company and with over $11 billion in equity you have a solid backbone and the future looks bright.

[Machiavelli]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

Jamtod:  not sure how much you have been paying attention, but TOP is now a secondary factor.  Stock prices, math, and portfolios will now determine who is the better team.

Being a Tommies fan you're in luck.  Target is a great Minnesota company and with over $11 billion in equity you have a solid backbone and the future looks bright.

Don't forget Honeywell. I know they are technically HQ'd in Morristown, NJ, but they have a large presence in Minneapolis and that was the former HQ. You'd be a little late to the game to invest at this point. Not many people like me were able to get in back in the $30 days, but it represents a stable Division 3 presence out of the state of MN.

[jamtod]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

Jamtod:  not sure how much you have been paying attention, but TOP is now a secondary factor.  Stock prices, math, and portfolios will now determine who is the better team.

Being a Tommies fan you're in luck.  Target is a great Minnesota company and with over $11 billion in equity you have a solid backbone and the future looks bright.

Don't forget Honeywell. I know they are technically HQ'd in Morristown, NJ, but they have a large presence in Minneapolis and that was the former HQ. You'd be a little late to the game to invest at this point. Not many people like me were able to get in back in the $30 days, but it represents a stable Division 3 presence out of the state of MN.

We've also got Best Buy, 3M, US Bank and more.

I understand that other important analytical factors are being considered, but I just hope we don't lose sight of the truly critical factors in scouting teams prospects, like TOP.

[Jonny Utah]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

Jamtod:  not sure how much you have been paying attention, but TOP is now a secondary factor.  Stock prices, math, and portfolios will now determine who is the better team.

Being a Tommies fan you're in luck.  Target is a great Minnesota company and with over $11 billion in equity you have a solid backbone and the future looks bright.

Don't forget Honeywell. I know they are technically HQ'd in Morristown, NJ, but they have a large presence in Minneapolis and that was the former HQ. You'd be a little late to the game to invest at this point. Not many people like me were able to get in back in the $30 days, but it represents a stable Division 3 presence out of the state of MN.

We've also got Best Buy, 3M, US Bank and more.

I understand that other important analytical factors are being considered, but I just hope we don't lose sight of the truly critical factors in scouting teams prospects, like TOP.

We will have some TOP analysis later in the week don't worry.

But Target is STU and 3M is St. John's.  Bethel is Best Buy and Carleton is Lifetime Fitness.

We can do a whole MIAC financial breakdown of the off season if you would like.....

[Oline89]

Can we think out of the box a little, emerging markets in Scandinavia for instance.  NCC starting kicker is Magnus Meyer (what an F'in name, one kicker who clearly can stack 6 plates on the bench), hails from Nesbru Norway.  Certainly the NCC staff has insider knowledge of the Norwegian Salmon Commodities Market, thoughts Jonny U?

[jamtod]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

Jamtod:  not sure how much you have been paying attention, but TOP is now a secondary factor.  Stock prices, math, and portfolios will now determine who is the better team.

Being a Tommies fan you're in luck.  Target is a great Minnesota company and with over $11 billion in equity you have a solid backbone and the future looks bright.

Don't forget Honeywell. I know they are technically HQ'd in Morristown, NJ, but they have a large presence in Minneapolis and that was the former HQ. You'd be a little late to the game to invest at this point. Not many people like me were able to get in back in the $30 days, but it represents a stable Division 3 presence out of the state of MN.

We've also got Best Buy, 3M, US Bank and more.

I understand that other important analytical factors are being considered, but I just hope we don't lose sight of the truly critical factors in scouting teams prospects, like TOP.

We will have some TOP analysis later in the week don't worry.

But Target is STU and 3M is St. John's.  Bethel is Best Buy and Carleton is Lifetime Fitness.

We can do a whole MIAC financial breakdown of the off season if you would like.....

By what logic? These can't be based on closest to campus.
US Bank's CEO is a Tommie. And Best Buy founder Richard Schulze has given a ton of money to St Thomas (honorary degree I guess).

[Jonny Utah]

Can we get some pre-Stagg TOP analysis of NCC vs UWW?

Jamtod:  not sure how much you have been paying attention, but TOP is now a secondary factor.  Stock prices, math, and portfolios will now determine who is the better team.

Being a Tommies fan you're in luck.  Target is a great Minnesota company and with over $11 billion in equity you have a solid backbone and the future looks bright.

Don't forget Honeywell. I know they are technically HQ'd in Morristown, NJ, but they have a large presence in Minneapolis and that was the former HQ. You'd be a little late to the game to invest at this point. Not many people like me were able to get in back in the $30 days, but it represents a stable Division 3 presence out of the state of MN.

We've also got Best Buy, 3M, US Bank and more.

I understand that other important analytical factors are being considered, but I just hope we don't lose sight of the truly critical factors in scouting teams prospects, like TOP.

We will have some TOP analysis later in the week don't worry.

But Target is STU and 3M is St. John's.  Bethel is Best Buy and Carleton is Lifetime Fitness.

We can do a whole MIAC financial breakdown of the off season if you would like.....

By what logic? These can't be based on closest to campus.
US Bank's CEO is a Tommie. And Best Buy founder Richard Schulze has given a ton of money to St Thomas (honorary degree I guess).

We don't use logic, only math.  That might be our biggest problem.

We also only like to include S&P 500 companies in our rankings.  Since Target is the biggest we like to assign them to the biggest baddest MIAC school...

[Bartman]

Back to football for a second.

Are d3 teams involved in this transfer portal concept?  It seems that getting D1 QB transfers are the way to the top.  D3 schools would be foolish not to look at these d1 programs for their next quarterback.  I never really thought about it until this year for some reason.

The last two "All American" QBs from the LL were Albany D1 transfers..Shane Sweeney from Hobart and The Germ from Ithaca , although technically Joe G was an AA at Brockport , maybe also this year. With D1 coaching changes the 3rd thru 5th stringers as freshman and sophomores may be forgotten and may respond to an opportunity at the D3 level and a chance for pro exposure ....as small as that chance is, it is still better than no chance and sitting on the bench, although having a full scholarship is a financial factor. Also as a football player, starting for a good D3 program is better than sitting for 4 years. I know in the case of Shane Sweeney he played for the local Geneva HS and was recruited by Hobart, but getting the chance to play in a D1 program on scholarship was too enticing. With a coaching change at Albany, he was uncomfortable and somehow he and Coach Cragg luckily reconnected .  This was convenient local scenario, but I'm not sure how you find potential transfers from D1.

[ITH radio]

Of the QBs we've had on the show this season I believe Segala, Meylor, Rutter and Hellwig were all transfers from upper Div schools initially.

[Pat Coleman]

The last two "All American" QBs from the LL were Albany D1 transfers..Shane Sweeney from Hobart and The Germ from Ithaca , although technically Joe G was an AA at Brockport , maybe also this year. With D1 coaching changes the 3rd thru 5th stringers as freshman and sophomores may be forgotten and may respond to an opportunity at the D3 level and a chance for pro exposure ....as small as that chance is, it is still better than no chance and sitting on the bench, although having a full scholarship is a financial factor. Also as a football player, starting for a good D3 program is better than sitting for 4 years. I know in the case of Shane Sweeney he played for the local Geneva HS and was recruited by Hobart, but getting the chance to play in a D1 program on scholarship was too enticing. With a coaching change at Albany, he was uncomfortable and somehow he and Coach Cragg luckily reconnected .  This was convenient local scenario, but I'm not sure how you find potential transfers from D1.

I think in a lot of cases, finding them is as you described with Sweeney -- those sorts of players are going to start by reconsidering D-III schools which recruited them out of high school. That's why coaches don't burn bridges and maintain contact as much as possible.

[ITH radio]

What Pat describes above is exactly what all those other kids said to us, basically. Makes a lot of sense.

[Jonny Utah]

The last two "All American" QBs from the LL were Albany D1 transfers..Shane Sweeney from Hobart and The Germ from Ithaca , although technically Joe G was an AA at Brockport , maybe also this year. With D1 coaching changes the 3rd thru 5th stringers as freshman and sophomores may be forgotten and may respond to an opportunity at the D3 level and a chance for pro exposure ....as small as that chance is, it is still better than no chance and sitting on the bench, although having a full scholarship is a financial factor. Also as a football player, starting for a good D3 program is better than sitting for 4 years. I know in the case of Shane Sweeney he played for the local Geneva HS and was recruited by Hobart, but getting the chance to play in a D1 program on scholarship was too enticing. With a coaching change at Albany, he was uncomfortable and somehow he and Coach Cragg luckily reconnected .  This was convenient local scenario, but I'm not sure how you find potential transfers from D1.

I think in a lot of cases, finding them is as you described with Sweeney -- those sorts of players are going to start by reconsidering D-III schools which recruited them out of high school. That's why coaches don't burn bridges and maintain contact as much as possible.

Sweeney I get.  Small College town local QB.

But do you know about the transfer portal and how that works with D3?

[Pat Coleman]

I don't have a lot of answers for you on that. Briefly looked at it a couple of weeks ago and the transfer portal is not set up or required for kids intending to transfer to D3, as far as I could tell, but not sure that means anything.