FB: Liberty League

[Oline89]

For the first time since Week 1, I took a look at the Top 25 and the Fan Voted Top 25.  I know the UW conference is always considered the most competetive in the country, but having a 3 loss team in the Top 25 seems like a serious stretch (the Fan poll has 2 of them???)

[Jonny Utah]

For the first time since Week 1, I took a look at the Top 25 and the Fan Voted Top 25.  I know the UW conference is always considered the most competetive in the country, but having a 3 loss team in the Top 25 seems like a serious stretch (the Fan poll has 2 of them???)

I think of the WIAC as the SEC of D3.  Think if Georgia, Alabama and Tenn were all 7-1 with losses to a 5-3 LSU.  Do you rank LSU? 

[Jonny Utah]

Hopkins losing might but a wrench in the LL 2 berths.  But Susquehanna is also a top 25 team.  Frank R. mentioned some controversy at the end of that game but I don't see any comments about it here.

The end of the game was a clock management/timeouts/screwed up play clock disaster!!!

Ahh ok I didn't see anymore on this though.

[Oline89]

For the first time since Week 1, I took a look at the Top 25 and the Fan Voted Top 25.  I know the UW conference is always considered the most competetive in the country, but having a 3 loss team in the Top 25 seems like a serious stretch (the Fan poll has 2 of them???)

I think of the WIAC as the SEC of D3.  Think if Georgia, Alabama and Tenn were all 7-1 with losses to a 5-3 LSU.  Do you rank LSU?

I can partially agree with you.  I see the UWW as Alabama, but not sure I can make the stretch that UWO is Georgia.  Tenn is having a freakish year. 

[IC798891]

While I don't think the shove out of bounds was necessarily needed or smart even, that was a football play, it wasn't dirty, and based on the angle there, it was not late. Both of their momentum made it look worse than it was. The kicking net made it look worse than it was. Laundry shoulda stayed in the pocket.

I agree with all of this, but the bolded part is my point. His momentum is going out of bounds, on his own sideline, and that's a how a borderline call (or even a straight missed call) happens. Refs are human, and you've got to know that's likely to draw a flag, whether it should or not.

[Pat Coleman]

Hopkins losing might but a wrench in the LL 2 berths.  But Susquehanna is also a top 25 team.  Frank R. mentioned some controversy at the end of that game but I don't see any comments about it here.

The end of the game was a clock management/timeouts/screwed up play clock disaster!!!

Ahh ok I didn't see anymore on this though.

I have no insight on the play clock -- the clock on the broadcast was managed remotely and notoriously just wrong all day and the broadcasters didn't relay the time from the scoreboard clock at all. But apparently a player's helmet came off on one of Susquehanna's final plays and that stops the clock when under a minute?

[UfanBill]

Hopkins losing might but a wrench in the LL 2 berths.  But Susquehanna is also a top 25 team.  Frank R. mentioned some controversy at the end of that game but I don't see any comments about it here.

The end of the game was a clock management/timeouts/screwed up play clock disaster!!!

Ahh ok I didn't see anymore on this though.

I have no insight on the play clock -- the clock on the broadcast was managed remotely and notoriously just wrong all day and the broadcasters didn't relay the time from the scoreboard clock at all. But apparently a player's helmet came off on one of Susquehanna's final plays and that stops the clock when under a minute?

Helmet comes off?...I had to look at this and discovered a heads up play so to speak. On 2nd and 7 the Susquehanna RB runs up the middle and at the bottom of the ensuing pile #31 for JHU discretely comes out with the ball carrier's helmet thus stopping the clock. I'm wondering if this ploy was done purposely? Pull a helmet off to stop the clock? If so it's a way to get a free time out I had never seen before and obviously should not have been allowed. With an extra clock stoppage JHU gains a late possession they shouldn't of had.

[Jonny Utah]

Hopkins losing might but a wrench in the LL 2 berths.  But Susquehanna is also a top 25 team.  Frank R. mentioned some controversy at the end of that game but I don't see any comments about it here.

The end of the game was a clock management/timeouts/screwed up play clock disaster!!!

Ahh ok I didn't see anymore on this though.

I have no insight on the play clock -- the clock on the broadcast was managed remotely and notoriously just wrong all day and the broadcasters didn't relay the time from the scoreboard clock at all. But apparently a player's helmet came off on one of Susquehanna's final plays and that stops the clock when under a minute?

Helmet comes off?...I had to look at this and discovered a heads up play so to speak. On 2nd and 7 the Susquehanna RB runs up the middle and at the bottom of the ensuing pile #31 for JHU discretely comes out with the ball carrier's helmet thus stopping the clock. I'm wondering if this ploy was done purposely? Pull a helmet off to stop the clock? If so it's a way to get a free time out I had never seen before and obviously should not have been allowed. With an extra clock stoppage JHU gains a late possession they shouldn't of had.

Ha.  I mean you could also take off your own helmet too right?  Is it a penalty to take off your helmet to "fix it" or is it just a stoppage of play and that player has to sit out a play?  I'm guessing the refs can call a penalty for a delay of game, and taking off an opponents helmet would be a penalty anyway 99% of the time.

[AUPepBand]

Hopkins losing might but a wrench in the LL 2 berths.  But Susquehanna is also a top 25 team.  Frank R. mentioned some controversy at the end of that game but I don't see any comments about it here.

The end of the game was a clock management/timeouts/screwed up play clock disaster!!!

Ahh ok I didn't see anymore on this though.

I have no insight on the play clock -- the clock on the broadcast was managed remotely and notoriously just wrong all day and the broadcasters didn't relay the time from the scoreboard clock at all. But apparently a player's helmet came off on one of Susquehanna's final plays and that stops the clock when under a minute?

Helmet comes off?...I had to look at this and discovered a heads up play so to speak. On 2nd and 7 the Susquehanna RB runs up the middle and at the bottom of the ensuing pile #31 for JHU discretely comes out with the ball carrier's helmet thus stopping the clock. I'm wondering if this ploy was done purposely? Pull a helmet off to stop the clock? If so it's a way to get a free time out I had never seen before and obviously should not have been allowed. With an extra clock stoppage JHU gains a late possession they shouldn't of had.

Ha.  I mean you could also take off your own helmet too right?  Is it a penalty to take off your helmet to "fix it" or is it just a stoppage of play and that player has to sit out a play?  I'm guessing the refs can call a penalty for a delay of game, and taking off an opponents helmet would be a penalty anyway 99% of the time.

Had a freakish play on a kickoff return at Yunevich Stadium. Opposing returner successfully broke a tackle near midfield but in doing so, his helmet came off. Had never seen that before. The player went the remaining 50 yards for an apparent TD but it was called back because a player becomes ineligible when his helmet is removed.

[IC798891]

PEP! LOOOOOOK! PEPPPPPP LOOOK

https://www.ithaca.edu/news/countdown-cortaca-bombers-bronx-part-11-getting-band-back-together

[Ice Bear]

PEP! LOOOOOOK! PEPPPPPP LOOOK

https://www.ithaca.edu/news/countdown-cortaca-bombers-bronx-part-11-getting-band-back-together

Ice Bear says, very cool.

[Ice Bear]

Ice Bear sighs and says well...this is make it or break it for the U. Ice says last week an inspired and hard working Hobart team made Union pay for what was a scoreless second half shutting the door on the Dutch time and time again. Ice says this week #12 Ithaca comes to town and surprisingly Union still has the opportunity to win the league with a W tomorrow and next week over RPI.

Ice has said it before and maybe he's typing here simply for the ****ing finger exercise but this Union team is most likely just a good football team. They have some real talent on O, an inconsistent O-line that can both dominate a game and also allow some serious penetration that disrupts the game plan. Ice says Union has an average D that seems to lack depth and certainly lacks consistent secondary play. This is what Ice has seen up until this point.

Ice says he would be quite surprised if Union wins, as picked by Union alum, D3 braintrust, and Mayor of Ballston Spa Frank Rossi. Ice holds Rossi in the highest regard, always has, but sees this game turning out differently. While IC doesn't have that big time playmaker on O that they've had before, they are consistent and have shown they can put up some points on some good teams. Their D is also solid with some excellent athletes on special teams. There is a reason they are the 12th ranked team in the nation. While Ice will be a HUGE ****ing Bomber fan come Cortaca, for now he will obviously be hoping for a big Dutchmen W come Saturday. Ice hopes this Union team can prove him wrong and show they are more than just a "good" football team and that they are an NCAA worthy team. Ice says Saturday will be telling.

[UfanBill]

Looking back to September 2018 the Union Dutchmen opened against a Husson team that had beat them in Maine the previous season. They were coming off a successful 7-4 2017 season but they'd lost their last three to Ithaca, RPI and Cortland. A new Quarterback, sophomore Will Bellamy, was about to make his first start...Well, Union clobbered Husson that day. Bellamy passed for 370 yards and 3 TDs, one to this new speedster WR Andre Ross Jr. The next week at Coast Guard Bellamy threw 3 more TDs to Ross Jr. and the week after versus Springfield 3 more. All the while another freshman was slowly making his mark and week #4 against Curry RB Ike Irabor became the story, scoring 3 TDs of his own.  Ross Jr. and Irabor have had many great games and have gathered many accolades since. They're among the best to ever play for the Dutchmen 

Now their time at Union is quickly closing. The Dutchmen are going to need great efforts from these two superstars to reach their goal. Another LL crown. It won't be easy. Ithaca and RPI having seen plenty of the backs of both, have learned how to defend them as well. Both have been banged up at times. Fortunately for Union others have emerged to give Ross and Irabor the rest and recovery they've needed. They should be healthy, strong and motivated. I believe we'll see a lot of #0 and #2 this week.         

[Caz Bombers]

14-14 with 7 minutes left in the 1st half. This game is getting a little too shootout-y for my liking.

Union is 6-7 on 3rd down. Good grief, tighten it the **** up IC.

[Caz Bombers]

either Ithaca got its uniforms stolen by Buffalo State or Pacatte is secretly Patrick Mahomes in disguise. This is awful.

EDIT: lucky to get out of the first half only down 21-14. Simply rancid defense - if this is who they are then might as well get exposed now and save the bother of going to the playoffs and getting worked there. FFS, Cortland is going to utterly destroy them.