FB: Liberty League

[mattvsmith]

USC and UCLA are the toast of the town here in LA LA land (USC more deservedly so).  At least I work with enough east coast transplants that they have heard of the 'Bart.

However, true west coasters typically have limited knowledge outside the UC, Cal State and Pac 10 systems.

Great Pumpkin,

The Rev went to LA once and saw a Hobart St., which The Rev sure is named for our dear departed bishop.

Hast thou learned any old school LA lore?  Canst thou verify the origin of Hobart St. ?

(there is a Hobart Street in the Pelham neighborhood in Da Bronx--off the Burhe Ave exit #6 line, near Our Lady of the Assumption (RC), which The Rev is also sure is named for our namesake.)

There is also a Hobart AND a Geneva Street in Mesa, AZ...

The Rev suspects some city planner way back when needed names for streets and picked up a Barron's guide and started going through it looking for hoity-toity sounding schools with which to name their suburban streets.

[Senor RedTackle]

...RT forget to give propers to the proud RPI parent who is punching the clock at LLPP, Inc and showing good form. Was it the E8 board or this board last season that had the one sorry-azz father who was on whining in defense of his h-mo son. Well, RT revises that last sentence......the dad came on first and talked up his son to the point of embarassment. When he got roasted for smoking his kid, he then when into back-pedal mode and was ridden out of dodge. Gotta love PP.


.....On a more serious note, RT needs some interpretation of a work situation (especially anxious to hear Reg's take). RT has a very tenious relationship with a woman at work. She is in her late 40's/early 50's and is the queen of the office. She's the top sales person and everyone is afraid of her....and she's a big butt kisser and plays all the office politics to keep her image in tact. RT used to work with her but now works for his new company but has to work with her quite a bit since our companies are tied at the hip. RT considers himself a top notch salesman as well but has never been a master at the office politics. RT and female salesperson (FS) have never really gotten along for alot of reasons, most notable, the fact that RT barely hides his contempt for her in the office and she knows that RT knows that she's an insincere phoney and RT was the reason behind alot of her success last year.

Long story short, RT had to call FS for something 2 days ago for the first time in months.  RT called her cell but left no message. RT gets an email yesterday from FS and all it says in the subject line is "I'm sorry I missed your call"....there was no text in the body of the email...just the friggin subject line.  Sorry I missed your call??!! WTF?? What does that mean? How does RT respond to RT?? Does RT respond to that?? Does FS care about what I called about???

...a little help

[Senor RedTackle]

HAS ANYONE SEEN HOLLADAWG?? WHERE OH WHERE IS HOLLADAWG???
......it's almost time to put out the APB. In fact, where is U89???

[mattvsmith]

Back in the day Bart FB players were not the BMOC by a long stretch.  That honor belonged to the Bart LAX team who were still a dominant program winning natty titles.

Since I haven't been back in years, I sometimes wonder if this is still the case as the Football program has blown up and LAX has settled into a being a mediocre mid to lower tier DI program?

Rt Rev - "nuts for them" is right.

Allow the Rev to clear something up here.  Among HWS faculty being an athlete was a distinct disadvantage.  I can remember one dork Religious Studies prof telling me when I walked into class the first day, "You're a fraternity brother and an athlete: you're going to fail this course."  The Rev had two A+ and a C that trimester.  It was Rev's first C in Religion.  It helped that the Rev, failing all semester, went to the final exam in nothing but pink boxers with blue polka dot, tall L.L. Bean duck boots, a vampire cape, and topped off with a bicycle helmet.  when said prof got a load of this get up he asked if The Rev always dress like this for finals, to which Rev responded, "This is an essay test, right?  I usually write essays naked, but since I'm in public, I thought I'd dress for the occcassion."  The Rev reckons he passed the courese for the sheer ballsiness of this move.

The next semester The Rev was in another religious studies class with his favorite lesbian professor and the football players relied upon The Rev to act as their spokesman against a room full of femiNAZIs who presumed that all male athletes are date-rapists.  of course, those same chicks would show up at our fraternity houses for free beer and sex.  (The Rev took care of the beer, while his brothers received his quota of free sex.)

Let's just put it this way, being a man at HWS was bad enough...being an athlete was downright risky.  If you wanted to be a man and not go crazy at HWS you either had to join the feminazis and wear pachouli, or you could play sports.

TGP doesn't have such strong memories of campus politics, but that's probably because The Rev was a lot more active in being a campus contrarian, while TGP played bass in a band down at Run Runner.  In hindsight, the Rev thinks TGP chose the better path.

Someday the Rev hopes to be a HWS professor or administrator of some sort and shower favoritism on athletes and fraternity brothers as payback.

[mattvsmith]

...RT forget to give propers to the proud RPI parent who is punching the clock at LLPP, Inc and showing good form. Was it the E8 board or this board last season that had the one sorry-azz father who was on whining in defense of his h-mo son. Well, RT revises that last sentence......the dad came on first and talked up his son to the point of embarassment. When he got roasted for smoking his kid, he then when into back-pedal mode and was ridden out of dodge. Gotta love PP.

The Rev recalls this.  'twas embarrassing to see said dad shame himself.

.....On a more serious note, RT needs some interpretation of a work situation (especially anxious to hear Reg's take). RT has a very tenious relationship with a woman at work. She is in her late 40's/early 50's and is the queen of the office. She's the top sales person and everyone is afraid of her....and she's a big butt kisser and plays all the office politics to keep her image in tact. RT used to work with her but now works for his new company but has to work with her quite a bit since our companies are tied at the hip. RT considers himself a top notch salesman as well but has never been a master at the office politics. RT and female salesperson (FS) have never really gotten along for alot of reasons, most notable, the fact that RT barely hides his contempt for her in the office and she knows that RT knows that she's an insincere phoney and RT was the reason behind alot of her success last year.

Long story short, RT had to call FS for something 2 days ago for the first time in months.  RT called her cell but left no message. RT gets an email yesterday from FS and all it says in the subject line is "I'm sorry I missed your call"....there was no text in the body of the email...just the friggin subject line.  Sorry I missed your call??!! WTF?? What does that mean? How does RT respond to RT?? Does RT respond to that?? Does FS care about what I called about???

...a little help

This woman is dangerous.  When someone like this knows that you can smell them, they have one thing in mind: discrediting you out of the organization.  (The Rev faced this same thing with his former religious superior in New York...I knew he was a scumbag; he knew that I saw through him, and spent all his effort to destroy me.  He did.  The Rev was destroyed and is no longer clerical material.)  I suspect that her messageless e-mail is the first salvo in a dirty game.  I suggest finding a manger whom you KNOW you can trust, and voice some concern.  I bet she's going to try to use this as the start of a campaign that you are somehow unreliable and that you are adversely affecting her performance.

The Rev's opinion comes in fable:

A scorpion asked a frog to carry her across the river.  The frog said no because he didn't trust the scorpion.  He said she'd sting him. The scorpion acted hurt, saying she'd never do such a thing.  The said that she would let the frog get into the water, she would then jump from the riverbank onto his back, and then when they get to the other side, she'll jump from his back onto the other bank ; and so he would be in no danger of being stung.  The frog decided that even though he didn't trust her, her idea was reasonable, and being a helpful fellow, he obliged her.

So the frog hopped in the water, and the scorpion jumped on his back.  he then swam across the river.  About halfway across the river, the scorpion hauledoff and stung him in the back of his head...a mortal blow.  As the frog went numb and started to drown, he said to the scorpion, "how could you do that?  I was trying to help you.  now we'll both die."  to which the scorpion responded:

BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF SONUVABITCH I AM!

RT, this woman is a scorpion. 

Don't be the frog.

[Senor RedTackle]

..This woman is dangerous (sic)..

This is EXACTLY what RT's manager said, hence, the rationale behind RT avoiding FS for the better part of 2006. Her content-less email, albeit extremely bizarre, does not surprise RT considering the source. RT is definitely preparing for a protracted war...

RT must applaud the good reverend for putting so much thought into his response to RT....of course, Rev does come from a liberal arts school.

Enough of the pleasantries......RT is not calling out a monkey stomp but does predict a W for the boys in red in a close one

RPI 24
Hobart 20

[finsleft]

Long story short, RT had to call FS for something 2 days ago for the first time in months.  RT called her cell but left no message. RT gets an email yesterday from FS and all it says in the subject line is "I'm sorry I missed your call"....there was no text in the body of the email...just the friggin subject line.  Sorry I missed your call??!! WTF?? What does that mean? How does RT respond to RT?? Does RT respond to that?? Does FS care about what I called about???

...a little help

RT-
How about you send her a textless message back, with the following in the subject line...
"I really needed to talk to you then about the"

If she calls you, tell her you don't remember what it was about now.

[stimulator]

Dangerous.. is the word..

After wading, wallowing, or swimming poorly through office politics for much too long I can tell you that getting into a mental or even worse verbal joust with a she-devil is invariably a gratifying yet pointless and often lethal exercise.

My response might have been "that's OK I resolved it" keeping her wondering what the hell "it" was.  But be careful... be veeeerrry careful.  Usually the intense desire to play devious is just you following the spider into the lair.  My advice let her be... she probably deserves herself.

Re: the dad syndrome.  I love and am proud of my son.. I love that he's playing ball and I think he has a future playing at RPI.  What I also am is a realist.  He is not a genetic freak playing for USC but a tough kid who will work and play very hard.  Good size, strength and instincts.  But it's his decision and his future both in FB and academics.  I'm not playing he is. 

I have run across many of the dads like the one of you describe.  If he's not a star it's the coaches fault.. if he doesn't get 30 carries a game the offense is to blame....  and worst of all if he ultimately fails whatever that may be, it's a combination of the coaches and unfortunately - the kid.

Right now given the depth at RPI with all of the players ~ 120 and the 20 returning starters, my son has yet to travel for the first two games as a freshman.  And in reality I think only a very small number of freshman have got a chance to travel.  But he is still excited.. He played well in the JV game and is hoping to get on the bus for a game this year.  I told him work so hard you make them notice you... and he will.

RPI 31
Hobart 24

 

[Pat Coleman]

This is EXACTLY what RT's manager said, hence, the rationale behind RT avoiding FS for the better part of 2006. Her content-less email, albeit extremely bizarre, does not surprise RT considering the source. RT is definitely preparing for a protracted war...

Didn't you leave her a content-less message, essentially, when you called her and didn't leave voice mail? I never call a cellphone that way. They know who you are. A desk phone, you have a shot it doesn't report missed calls.

[Regulator]

This is EXACTLY what RT's manager said, hence, the rationale behind RT avoiding FS for the better part of 2006. Her content-less email, albeit extremely bizarre, does not surprise RT considering the source. RT is definitely preparing for a protracted war...

Didn't you leave her a content-less message, essentially, when you called her and didn't leave voice mail? I never call a cellphone that way. They know who you are. A desk phone, you have a shot it doesn't report missed calls.

RT,
After reading your entire message about she devil twice.....I think you are putting waaay too much emphasis on how much of a devil she is. 

If I put myself in your shoes calling someone who I despise.....on their cell...and they don't pick up...I either do one of two things
#1 leave a generic message bc I don't want them to know why Im calling
#2 hang up and pray they are curious enough to call me back

I actually think it's cool she sent you the email....at least it's some form of communication.
If you still need her help, then give her a call or respond in the body of the email with what you needed. 
Now herre is the important part...if you don't need her help anymore you must reply to her.  Even if it's just "Thanks for getting back to me, I had a question about X but I foiund what I needed." 

You cannot fight fire with fire with these cats and expect to win.  Some cat (if you remember the guy who never shows up....leaves bc his cat need to go to the dentist kind of guy) ended up trying to throw MR under the bus a couple of times in the last month.  This cat was handling everything like a child, CCing very high up people (who MR has WAAAY better working relationships with)  The first time she kinda blew it off, saying that her boss will get her back.  And it went away.
The second time he tried it, she called him out and now the guy is commuting 1.5 hours each way, to a different office and different project bc of it.

The trump card a powerful woman in the workplace holds, is sometimes underrated.

Sorry I didn't add any analogies to my story.  I will leave that to the guys from hobart or MR.

[Knightstalker]

Not so random Youtube video of the day, SFW

KS followed the link and noticed that everyone else who got this posted on youtube also.

[Senor RedTackle]

This is EXACTLY what RT's manager said, hence, the rationale behind RT avoiding FS for the better part of 2006. Her content-less email, albeit extremely bizarre, does not surprise RT considering the source. RT is definitely preparing for a protracted war...

Didn't you leave her a content-less message, essentially, when you called her and didn't leave voice mail? I never call a cellphone that way. They know who you are. A desk phone, you have a shot it doesn't report missed calls.

After RT shared his dilemma, RT kinda of knew someone may comeback with this observation....no suprise it was the guru himself

[Senor RedTackle]

[Now herre is the important part...if you don't need her help anymore you must reply to her.  Even if it's just "Thanks for getting back to me, I had a question about X but I foiund what I needed." 

Reg and KS....thanks for coaching up RT. RT sent an email this am to FS that simply said
"thanks for responding...RT took care of what RT needed"

Within about 15 min, she wrote back asking what RT needed. RT has yet to respond. Does RT respond? If so, what is the response??

[Regulator]

RT-

You are on your own for this one. ..
Can't you jsut catch up with her "in passing"

['gro]

Within about 15 min, she wrote back asking what RT needed. RT has yet to respond. Does RT respond? If so, what is the response??

"you my dear. You have beautiful eyes and your hair smells like cinnamon."