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[mattvsmith]

My favorite score of all time in the Hobart-Rochester series: 1993 with Coach Maxwell and Cragg, Hobart 2 Rochester 0 !

The Rev was a senior standing on the sideline that day.

It was a great game.  Rochester was expected to monkeystomp us that day, but I recall Hobart D, lead by Rod Jonson and Rich Memenger playing a particularly tough game.

Winning a game with a safety!  Phenomenal!!!

The Rev recalls hearing that Rochester came back and thrashed Bart pretty soundly in 1994.

[labart96]

Would the UR-Hobart series be Hobart's longest?

In 1892, Hobart and Rochester played their first game. Hobart also played St. Johns that year, and ended up losing both games. Interesting is that it looks like it was the 99th meeting, with 2007 going for the century mark.

Was basing my 100th game on info provided this year's Bart-Roch game notes from the Hobart Football website.  They said this season's contest was the 100th meeting btw the schools.

Check that - actually TGP thinks it was the WEOS announcer who said it was the 100th meeting.  Found this in the sports clips:

"It will be the 99th meeting between the two schools with Rochester holding a slight edge, 47-44-7. However, Hobart has won 10 of the last 13 showdowns."

My favorite score of all time in the Hobart-Rochester series: 1993 with Coach Maxwell and Cragg, Hobart 2 Rochester 0 !

TGP remembers that one as well.  Bart came into that one as the underdog since Roch in the early 90's was fielding some very strong teams.   The 93 squad ended up having one of the best D's in the Nation and went on to be one of the best Bart teams in recent history (and gave Bart its 1st ever 1st Team All-American in SR FS Bill Palmer).

['gro]

RPI has a nice fly thru video on their website of the new stadium layout. Will '86 field be history in a few years?

as gro has said before, '86 will most likely be converted into playground for yurk toting frisbee chucking cheeba monkeys.

[Regulator]

someone at work told me that brittney spears joined the army... something about her going commando... any truth to this?

Gro,
You went to one of her concerts.....why don't you tell US!

reg how do you have time to post? I thought you shopping for more old man outfits to wear to the next RPI game.

Gro,
Reg finds time to posts between internet shopping at Brooks Bros. and kicking you in the junk the next time he sees you.

I am thinking argyle with car bombs spread across the front.



Is that ok?....or should I shop with you at Old Navy and payless shoes?

['gro]

Old navy and payless? Nah nah... gro's more of a marshalls and shoe carnival kinda guy.

[lewdogg11]

someone at work told me that brittney spears joined the army... something about her going commando... any truth to this?

I saw it.  It was weird lookin'.

[Frank Rossi]

RPI has a nice fly thru video on their website of the new stadium layout. Will '86 field be history in a few years?

Yes, so hurry up and go dig out some frozen cat turds for future ebay sales.  I think you can rake it in from that.

[AUPepBand]

My favorite score of all time in the Hobart-Rochester series: 1993 with Coach Maxwell and Cragg, Hobart 2 Rochester 0 !

I do remember seeing that score. AU had a similar contest with St. Lawrence back when the Larries were outstanding. A week after Ithaca had tied AU 3-3 at South Hill Field on a last minute field goal, the Saxons traveled to Canton to play the Larries on a windswept Weeks Field. For the second week in a row, AU got an early 3-0 lead, and with the wind behind them in the fourth quarter, remarkably held off the Larries who took up residence in AU territory. Final score was 3-2 as AU took an intentional safety late in the game to give its punter another 25 yards from which to work.

['gro]

someone at work told me that brittney spears joined the army... something about her going commando... any truth to this?

I saw it.  It was weird lookin'.

haha +k. I agree... it was scary.

[Regulator]

someone at work told me that brittney spears joined the army... something about her going commando... any truth to this?

I saw it.  It was weird lookin'.

haha +k. I agree... it was scary.

Wow, Reg had no idea that there were pics out on it until he did a GIS....
Unbelievable and kind of nasty. 

Definately NSFW searching

[Regulator]

In other news.....Reg was looking through some old stuff when he located an RPI program that had Gro himself plastered all over the cover.

Gro, What's it worth to you?

In said program
Junior year "Regulator had 319 yards on 73 carries ....Lost only 4 yards all season"
Sophmore: "Reg had 421 yards on 98 carries....Lost only 4 yards all season" 

The funny thing is, I remember exactly when I lost 2 of those yards each year.  It was on trap plays where the guard "just forgot to pull" ...

"Oh great dude....no problem, I will just need a little help removing the DL's face mask from my lung!"

['gro]

In other news.....Reg was looking through some old stuff when he located an RPI program that had Gro himself plastered all over the cover.

Gro, What's it worth to you?

In said program
Junior year "Regulator had 319 yards on 73 carries ....Lost only 4 yards all season"
Sophmore: "Reg had 421 yards on 98 carries....Lost only 4 yards all season" 

The funny thing is, I remember exactly when I lost 2 of those yards each year.  It was on trap plays where the guard "just forgot to pull" ...

"Oh great dude....no problem, I will just need a little help removing the DL's face mask from my lung!"

Gro has a gajillion of those programs with gro's backsiiiide taking center stage, as well at some photos from the poly and troy record... you don't remember when I had that feature in the record and we went around "purchasing" copies from the local vending machines??

[Naked Nott Run]

someone at work told me that brittney spears joined the army... something about her going commando... any truth to this?

I saw it.  It was weird lookin'.

haha +k. I agree... it was scary.

Wow, Reg had no idea that there were pics out on it until he did a GIS....
Unbelievable and kind of nasty. 

Definately NSFW searching

where can NNR find said pictures

[Garnet]

Wake up call? I think Rowan can win this round and the next, too.  We've beat Mount in Alliance before and we can do it again.  All the way this yeay, baby.  It's a shame you don't think the same for your team.

CK

Well this makes about no sense.
The Rev and RadioMike are Hobart fans.  If we were to think that Hobart would win this round and go on to the next round and win we'd either be insane or jackasses.

One thing that The Rev prides himself on is a deep sense of realism.  Here is reality as The Rev sees it:

Hobart is a respectable team that has made great strides since Coach Maxwell took over in 1991.  We are now perenniel regional contenders.  We are good for a round or two in the play-offs at this point.

For Hobart to become a national rather than regional contender the president of the colleges (plural because of Williams Smith College for Wymyn) would have to make the demand, and the professors would have to get on board.  There is a very strong and deeply entrenched antipathy at the school toward men's sports and anything that smacks of traditional men's roles in society.  There is an unspoken rule that sports at Hobart cannot be seen as being better or more important than academics.  Thus the administration at Hobart, such as Dean Capraro fear nothing more than Football becoming big and Hobart gaining a reputation as a jock school like Ithaca or Cortland. 

Conversely, the administration at William Smith, while not exactly wanting to be considered a jock school, do want a reputation for excellence in sport because William Smith College's main theme is subversion of traditional roles in society.  Sports, once the bastion of men, is now dominated by women.  Thus, sport at William Smith is not about competition, but overthrowing traditional gender roles.  Sport is political.

The Rev suspects that few at Rowan have ever considered sport in the same way that it is discussed at HWS.

You should be thankful for this. 

RadioMike or TGP do you have anything to add, amend or contradict re: HWS's ambivalence toward Hobart athletics?

TGP is back from his temporary winter solstice - btw this morning it was a Geneva-esque 44 degrees and windy out here in La La Land.

Another close call for Rowan - makes TGP think the woulda coulda if Bart had been able to hang on those last 1:52.

RT -

ND game didn't go exactly as planned (as in the guy who was supposed to deliver TGP's tickets was a no show), but PapaTGP and TGP quickly rectified the situation by seeking out the services of a scalper and ended up getting into the game just after the kickoff.  

Being as we were rooting for the "bad" guys, it was a great time!  Seats were near the end zone over the tunnel and actually most of the action seemed to happen on our end of the field.  SC's defense was sick.  Quinn had no one to throw to all game b/c the coverage was so good.

BTW - at halftime they had Anthony Munoz to the center of the field for an award ceremony.  Old 77 is still one big dude.

Rt Rev -

TGP would disagree with your assessment or at least would want to clarify it by saying TGP doesn't believe that ALL the HWS administration and faculty are anti-athletics.  There are just a couple of folks who are maybe more outspoken about it than others.

Most of our biggest donors have had or have ties to Bart athletics and have a lot of pride given the recent successes (FB and Soccer in the NCAAs, resurrection of our once terrible Hockey program to Frozen 4 contender, Bart beating SU in Lax, etc) of the athletic programs.

Lest you forget, back in the day Hobart's rep was based more on being a "jock school" (ala Bart Lax) than almost anything else.  

The fact the institution is making strides to improve it's academic profile will only benefit the school in the long run.  TGP feels Pres Gearan has done a great job in doing this - especially since some of the classes admitted in the late 80's/early 90's (mine included) weren't exactly of top quality.  

Hobart's FB program has made major strides in the last 10 years, but TGP doubts "national" contention is really that likely since the region in which we obtain the majority of our athletes (NY, MA, etc) is HEAVILY recruited by a lot of other D3 programs including all of our LL counterparts.

makes it difficult not to root for them

[Garnet]