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[JT]

Re: HOF

gro takes the harry carson approach... out of my control.

Re: mantastic

thou shalt not diss my homies Tony & Herm.   Tony's the classiest coach in the NFL and herm, well he's kinda weird, but he's coaching my chefs, great googily moogily.

Gro's Chiefs huh.... gro should able to predict 98% of the offensive plays by now.  JT could when Herm ran the Jets.  How do ya think Curtis Martin led the league in rushing a couple years ago?  Those 3rd and 20 draw plays that go for about 12 yards add up.

[PBR...]

Re: HOF

gro takes the harry carson approach... out of my control.

Re: mantastic

thou shalt not diss my homies Tony & Herm.   Tony's the classiest coach in the NFL and herm, well he's kinda weird, but he's coaching my chefs, great googily moogily.

just havin' some fun gro.....pbr imagines they dont belong to NAMBLA

[JT]

JT hit shuffle on his ipod and a song came on that JT hasn't heard in ages.  Made JT smile:

Wooah! Oh-hoh-hoh-hoahhh!
Y'all ready?
Oh-hoh-hoh-hoahhh!
Yeah, let's go! Oh-hoh-hoh-hoahhh!
......

Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting!
Come on!
Huh! Woo-ha!
Those kicks were fast as lightning,
Hah! Woo-cha!
In fact, was a little bit frightening,
Huh! Huh-huh!
But they fought with expert timing


Everybody sing along!!!!

[Senor RedTackle]

Re: HOF

gro takes the harry carson approach... out of my control.

Re: mantastic

thou shalt not diss my homies Tony & Herm.   Tony's the classiest coach in the NFL and herm, well he's kinda weird, but he's coaching my chefs, great googily moogily.

just havin' some fun gro.....pbr imagines they dont belong to NAMBLA

don't be afraid of Gro....go ahead and call them out on NMBLA

[Senor RedTackle]

JT hit shuffle on his ipod and a song came on that JT hasn't heard in ages.  Made JT smile:

Wooah! Oh-hoh-hoh-hoahhh!
Y'all ready?
Oh-hoh-hoh-hoahhh!
Yeah, let's go! Oh-hoh-hoh-hoahhh!
......

Everybody was Kung Fu Fighting!
Come on!
Huh! Woo-ha!
Those kicks were fast as lightning,
Hah! Woo-cha!
In fact, was a little bit frightening,
Huh! Huh-huh!
But they fought with expert timing


Everybody sing along!!!!

Gotta love Carl Douglas

[JT]

Here's another one, sometimes shuffle brings out some funky stuff:

"Oh-wee-oh-wee-oh"

I - I've been watching U
I think I wanna know ya (know ya)
Said I, I'm a little dangerous
Girl, I'd love 2 show ya (show ya)

My jungle love, yeah
I think I wanna know ya (know ya)
Jungle love
Girl, I'd love 2 show ya (show ya)

U - U've got a pretty car
I think I wanna drive it (drive it)
I ain't playin', said I drive a little dangerous
Take U 2 my crib, rip U off ... huh! (Jungle love)

Look out, oh!
I think I wanna know ya (know ya)
Oh, jungle love, yeah
Girl, I'd love 2 show ya (show ya)

Come on baby, where's your guts?
U wanna make love or what?

[labart96]

thou shalt not diss my homies Tony & Herm.   Tony's the classiest coach in the NFL and herm, well he's kinda weird, but he's coaching my chefs, great googily moogily.

TGP is a fan of Tony as well.  TD was great as the DC with the Vikes and turned TB from a perennial suck azz team into a legit play-off contender.  Got jobbed out of Tampa then had to watch Chucky win the SB with all his guys.  Ends up in Indy with a QB who can't win in the clutch and no defensive talent (must be frustrating as hell for a HC who came up the DC ranks).  Had to overcome tremendous obstables off the field as well - as a parent TGP can't even go there.

Re: Jungle Love -

Morris Day & The Time were one of the all time under appreciated acts.  Should have been as big as Prince (well, ok that's pushing it). 

Still, the "now, now Jerome (check hair, clothes in the mirror routine), yes" was a HOF 80's music moment.

[icgrad87]

Here's another one, sometimes shuffle brings out some funky stuff:

"Oh-wee-oh-wee-oh"

I - I've been watching U
I think I wanna know ya (know ya)
Said I, I'm a little dangerous
Girl, I'd love 2 show ya (show ya)

My jungle love, yeah
I think I wanna know ya (know ya)
Jungle love
Girl, I'd love 2 show ya (show ya)

U - U've got a pretty car
I think I wanna drive it (drive it)
I ain't playin', said I drive a little dangerous
Take U 2 my crib, rip U off ... huh! (Jungle love)

Look out, oh!
I think I wanna know ya (know ya)
Oh, jungle love, yeah
Girl, I'd love 2 show ya (show ya)

Come on baby, where's your guts?
U wanna make love or what?

    Morris Day & The Time!!

[JT]

This makes JT think... What on JT's ipod could be consider ghey by some...  here it goes:

Christopher Cross
Carly Simon
Neil Diamond
Pat Benetar
REO Speedwagon
Bee Gees
and gulp... The Grease movie soundtrack

[labart96]

This makes JT think... What on JT's ipod could be consider ghey by some...  here it goes:

Christopher Cross
Carly Simon
Neil Diamond
Pat Benetar
REO Speedwagon
Bee Gees
and gulp... The Grease movie soundtrack

Yikes.  However, JT may be spared retribution as long as he doesn't watch that new Grease reality show......

[JT]

This makes JT think... What on JT's ipod could be consider ghey by some...  here it goes:

Christopher Cross
Carly Simon
Neil Diamond
Pat Benetar
REO Speedwagon
Bee Gees
and gulp... The Grease movie soundtrack

Yikes.  However, JT may be spared retribution as long as he doesn't watch that new Grease reality show......

The soundtrack has real sentimental value.  Not for the song value, but that was a great summer in JT's life (1979).  He was 12 and had his first real GF for a summer.  1st date was a Saturday Night Fever and Grease double feature.  Followed pizza then drinking screwdrivers and making out by the RR tracks.

In regards to the screwdrivers.... this is the period when JT had older friends of 13-15.  The drinking age was 18... scoring booze was easy.  Spot the 18 yr old a $5 and bingo.  JT was mature mentally for his age... he thinks???

[mattvsmith]

gro you better find a mrs. for some puppy dawgs and ice cream quick the way this country is going in iraq and now bombing africa and our prez wanting to up the numbers of the military by 100K the draft may be reinstated....

If Clinton had not slashed the military from 18 combat divisions (first Iraq war) to 11, we'd have plenty of troups, regardless of one's position on the current conflict.

Don't just blame Bubba, Nudie and the other Capital Hill Fun Boys were pushing to make all the cutbacks too.  This is why politicians need to actually listen to the Military people sometimes.

Wesley Clark is also to blame.  He was the guy telling Clinton it was OK. Graduated first in his class from West Point, but only acheived the rank of Cadet Sgt.  That should tell you what his classmates thought of his leadership potential.

The first major military scale-down happened during Bush I's reign.  Massive base closures in the early 90's were decided by Bush I's team.

In comparison to Clinton and his son, G.H.W. Bush is a pacifist.  Thus, a military scale back after the Cold War ended made sense.  How was he supposed to know that BillyJeff and Dubya were going to send troops everywhere some swarthy dictator gets a hair up his ace?

The Rev's idea for national/homeland security:  Mandatory Boot Camp for all male AND female citizens.  Every citizen issued a rifle and ammo, and must re-qualify every year.  Pull all U.S. troops out of all foreign countries.  Advertise through the U.N. that every adult U.S. citizen is armed with the offer, "Our land is here for the taking...if any of you [insert insult here] can take it."  And there stand the better part of 300 million people with the thought, "I'll be damned if some [insert insult here] comes and takes my home, job and kids away from me!"  Locked and loaded.  No one could touch us.

In fact, this is part of the problem we are having in Iraq.  Yeah, they hated Saddam, but "a bastard from our own tribe is better than a bastard from a tribe across the sea.  This is OUR land, our internal fight...get out whitey, we'll handle this stuff ourselves, and if you're dumb enough to put another 21,000 target in our way then to hell with you.  We'll just bleed you until you finally get the good sense to abandon us like you did the Vietnamese."

Projecting military power is incredibly difficult, especially from across the Atlantic or Pacific.  the Rev thinks Dubya thought he'd be able to subdue Iraq and make that our strategic colony so that the U.S. would be able to project military power throughout Central Asia from a point in Central Asia, just as we can project East Asian might from bases in Korea and Japan.

Problem is, Dubya's DoD is trying to use a World War II, 2nd Generation warfare playbook, when our current enemy is fighting a 4th generation war.  Can't do it.  And more troops mean more bodybags no matter how good our guys are.

[JT]

gro you better find a mrs. for some puppy dawgs and ice cream quick the way this country is going in iraq and now bombing africa and our prez wanting to up the numbers of the military by 100K the draft may be reinstated....

If Clinton had not slashed the military from 18 combat divisions (first Iraq war) to 11, we'd have plenty of troups, regardless of one's position on the current conflict.

Don't just blame Bubba, Nudie and the other Capital Hill Fun Boys were pushing to make all the cutbacks too.  This is why politicians need to actually listen to the Military people sometimes.

Wesley Clark is also to blame.  He was the guy telling Clinton it was OK. Graduated first in his class from West Point, but only acheived the rank of Cadet Sgt.  That should tell you what his classmates thought of his leadership potential.

The first major military scale-down happened during Bush I's reign.  Massive base closures in the early 90's were decided by Bush I's team.

In comparison to Clinton and his son, G.H.W. Bush is a pacifist.  Thus, a military scale back after the Cold War ended made sense.  How was he supposed to know that BillyJeff and Dubya were going to send troops everywhere some swarthy dictator gets a hair up his ace?

The Rev's idea for national/homeland security:  Mandatory Boot Camp for all male AND female citizens.  Every citizen issued a rifle and ammo, and must re-qualify every year.  Pull all U.S. troops out of all foreign countries.  Advertise through the U.N. that every adult U.S. citizen is armed with the offer, "Our land is here for the taking...if any of you [insert insult here] can take it."  And there stand the better part of 300 million people with the thought, "I'll be damned if some [insert insult here] comes and takes my home, job and kids away from me!"  Locked and loaded.  No one could touch us.

In fact, this is part of the problem we are having in Iraq.  Yeah, they hated Saddam, but "a bastard from our own tribe is better than a bastard from a tribe across the sea.  This is OUR land, our internal fight...get out whitey, we'll handle this stuff ourselves, and if you're dumb enough to put another 21,000 target in our way then to hell with you.  We'll just bleed you until you finally get the good sense to abandon us like you did the Vietnamese."

Projecting military power is incredibly difficult, especially from across the Atlantic or Pacific.  the Rev thinks Dubya thought he'd be able to subdue Iraq and make that our strategic colony so that the U.S. would be able to project military power throughout Central Asia from a point in Central Asia, just as we can project East Asian might from bases in Korea and Japan.

Problem is, Dubya's DoD is trying to use a World War II, 2nd Generation warfare playbook, when our current enemy is fighting a 4th generation war.  Can't do it.  And more troops mean more bodybags no matter how good our guys are.

JT likes how Rev thinks.  The other problem is we the "US" have to be careful of the bad guys we create.... Shah of Iran, Sadaam etc.  Big corporations own our govt and that in essence is the problem.  Both of these doods were created out of a lust of oil.  If anyone thinks the war in Iraq is over weapons of mass distruction or freeing the people of Iraq, they are crazy.  This war is Imperalism pure and simple... an attempt to put a foot hold in the pyscho middle east.

This war was years in the making.... the Pentagon has been planning since Iraq I.  They finally got a Pres to rubber stamp it like Johnson rubber stamped Vietnam.

Of course Saadam had WOMD (most of which is now in Syria) we gave him the biologics to fight Iran.

The other problem is that they won't let the military run the war.... just like Vietnam.  Politicians know **** about running a war.  Had we hit the ground with the right amount of troups and kept the Iraq army intact.  This would be a lot smoother.

The US had to build infrastructure immediately.... electricity, water, buildings etc. Get commerce going.  Win the hearts and minds.  They f'ed around too much.

I'd cap Rumsfield for his part in this.... he's as bad McNamara (Defense Sec. Vietnam).  Who in his biography said he knew they were fighting a war to lose (Vietnam) from the outset. Why let 58,000 men and women die then?

JT's an army brat and son of a Vietnam Vet.  At this point through reading JT's come to his own conclusions with a slight influence from Pop.  Dad said if they would have let us fight it, Vietnam was winnable.  But as Johnson said," They don't bomb as much as an outhouse without my approval."

It is sad that men and women have to die for big business, but its been that way since Korea.  The US doesn't fight wars cause its the right thing to do, wars are fought for money nowadays.

Sorry to be a downer to the LLPP but it struck a nerve.

[Senor RedTackle]

gro you better find a mrs. for some puppy dawgs and ice cream quick the way this country is going in iraq and now bombing africa and our prez wanting to up the numbers of the military by 100K the draft may be reinstated....

If Clinton had not slashed the military from 18 combat divisions (first Iraq war) to 11, we'd have plenty of troups, regardless of one's position on the current conflict.

Don't just blame Bubba, Nudie and the other Capital Hill Fun Boys were pushing to make all the cutbacks too.  This is why politicians need to actually listen to the Military people sometimes.

Wesley Clark is also to blame.  He was the guy telling Clinton it was OK. Graduated first in his class from West Point, but only acheived the rank of Cadet Sgt.  That should tell you what his classmates thought of his leadership potential.

The first major military scale-down happened during Bush I's reign.  Massive base closures in the early 90's were decided by Bush I's team.

In comparison to Clinton and his son, G.H.W. Bush is a pacifist.  Thus, a military scale back after the Cold War ended made sense.  How was he supposed to know that BillyJeff and Dubya were going to send troops everywhere some swarthy dictator gets a hair up his ace?

The Rev's idea for national/homeland security:  Mandatory Boot Camp for all male AND female citizens.  Every citizen issued a rifle and ammo, and must re-qualify every year.  Pull all U.S. troops out of all foreign countries.  Advertise through the U.N. that every adult U.S. citizen is armed with the offer, "Our land is here for the taking...if any of you [insert insult here] can take it."  And there stand the better part of 300 million people with the thought, "I'll be damned if some [insert insult here] comes and takes my home, job and kids away from me!"  Locked and loaded.  No one could touch us.

In fact, this is part of the problem we are having in Iraq.  Yeah, they hated Saddam, but "a bastard from our own tribe is better than a bastard from a tribe across the sea.  This is OUR land, our internal fight...get out whitey, we'll handle this stuff ourselves, and if you're dumb enough to put another 21,000 target in our way then to hell with you.  We'll just bleed you until you finally get the good sense to abandon us like you did the Vietnamese."

Projecting military power is incredibly difficult, especially from across the Atlantic or Pacific.  the Rev thinks Dubya thought he'd be able to subdue Iraq and make that our strategic colony so that the U.S. would be able to project military power throughout Central Asia from a point in Central Asia, just as we can project East Asian might from bases in Korea and Japan.

Problem is, Dubya's DoD is trying to use a World War II, 2nd Generation warfare playbook, when our current enemy is fighting a 4th generation war.  Can't do it.  And more troops mean more bodybags no matter how good our guys are.

JT likes how Rev thinks.  The other problem is we the "US" have to be careful of the bad guys we create.... Shah of Iran, Sadaam etc.  Big corporations own our govt and that in essence is the problem.  Both of these doods were created out of a lust of oil.  If anyone thinks the war in Iraq is over weapons of mass distruction or freeing the people of Iraq, they are crazy.  This war is Imperalism pure and simple... an attempt to put a foot hold in the pyscho middle east.

This war was years in the making.... the Pentagon has been planning since Iraq I.  They finally got a Pres to rubber stamp it like Johnson rubber stamped Vietnam.

Of course Saadam had WOMD (most of which is now in Syria) we gave him the biologics to fight Iran.

The other problem is that they won't let the military run the war.... just like Vietnam.  Politicians know **** about running a war.  Had we hit the ground with the right amount of troups and kept the Iraq army intact.  This would be a lot smoother.

The US had to build infrastructure immediately.... electricity, water, buildings etc. Get commerce going.  Win the hearts and minds.  They f'ed around too much.

I'd cap Rumsfield for his part in this.... he's as bad McNamara (Defense Sec. Vietnam).  Who in his biography said he knew they were fighting a war to lose (Vietnam) from the outset. Why let 58,000 men and women die then?

JT's an army brat and son of a Vietnam Vet.  At this point through reading JT's come to his own conclusions with a slight influence from Pop.  Dad said if they would have let us fight it, Vietnam was winnable.  But as Johnson said," They don't bomb as much as an outhouse without my approval."

It is sad that men and women have to die for big business, but its been that way since Korea.  The US doesn't fight wars cause its the right thing to do, wars are fought for money nowadays.

Sorry to be a downer to the LLPP but it struck a nerve.

geo political depates give RT serious headaches...

where's Garnet w/ some hot pics

[JT]

gro you better find a mrs. for some puppy dawgs and ice cream quick the way this country is going in iraq and now bombing africa and our prez wanting to up the numbers of the military by 100K the draft may be reinstated....

If Clinton had not slashed the military from 18 combat divisions (first Iraq war) to 11, we'd have plenty of troups, regardless of one's position on the current conflict.

Don't just blame Bubba, Nudie and the other Capital Hill Fun Boys were pushing to make all the cutbacks too.  This is why politicians need to actually listen to the Military people sometimes.

Wesley Clark is also to blame.  He was the guy telling Clinton it was OK. Graduated first in his class from West Point, but only acheived the rank of Cadet Sgt.  That should tell you what his classmates thought of his leadership potential.

The first major military scale-down happened during Bush I's reign.  Massive base closures in the early 90's were decided by Bush I's team.

In comparison to Clinton and his son, G.H.W. Bush is a pacifist.  Thus, a military scale back after the Cold War ended made sense.  How was he supposed to know that BillyJeff and Dubya were going to send troops everywhere some swarthy dictator gets a hair up his ace?

The Rev's idea for national/homeland security:  Mandatory Boot Camp for all male AND female citizens.  Every citizen issued a rifle and ammo, and must re-qualify every year.  Pull all U.S. troops out of all foreign countries.  Advertise through the U.N. that every adult U.S. citizen is armed with the offer, "Our land is here for the taking...if any of you [insert insult here] can take it."  And there stand the better part of 300 million people with the thought, "I'll be damned if some [insert insult here] comes and takes my home, job and kids away from me!"  Locked and loaded.  No one could touch us.

In fact, this is part of the problem we are having in Iraq.  Yeah, they hated Saddam, but "a bastard from our own tribe is better than a bastard from a tribe across the sea.  This is OUR land, our internal fight...get out whitey, we'll handle this stuff ourselves, and if you're dumb enough to put another 21,000 target in our way then to hell with you.  We'll just bleed you until you finally get the good sense to abandon us like you did the Vietnamese."

Projecting military power is incredibly difficult, especially from across the Atlantic or Pacific.  the Rev thinks Dubya thought he'd be able to subdue Iraq and make that our strategic colony so that the U.S. would be able to project military power throughout Central Asia from a point in Central Asia, just as we can project East Asian might from bases in Korea and Japan.

Problem is, Dubya's DoD is trying to use a World War II, 2nd Generation warfare playbook, when our current enemy is fighting a 4th generation war.  Can't do it.  And more troops mean more bodybags no matter how good our guys are.

JT likes how Rev thinks.  The other problem is we the "US" have to be careful of the bad guys we create.... Shah of Iran, Sadaam etc.  Big corporations own our govt and that in essence is the problem.  Both of these doods were created out of a lust of oil.  If anyone thinks the war in Iraq is over weapons of mass distruction or freeing the people of Iraq, they are crazy.  This war is Imperalism pure and simple... an attempt to put a foot hold in the pyscho middle east.

This war was years in the making.... the Pentagon has been planning since Iraq I.  They finally got a Pres to rubber stamp it like Johnson rubber stamped Vietnam.

Of course Saadam had WOMD (most of which is now in Syria) we gave him the biologics to fight Iran.

The other problem is that they won't let the military run the war.... just like Vietnam.  Politicians know **** about running a war.  Had we hit the ground with the right amount of troups and kept the Iraq army intact.  This would be a lot smoother.

The US had to build infrastructure immediately.... electricity, water, buildings etc. Get commerce going.  Win the hearts and minds.  They f'ed around too much.

I'd cap Rumsfield for his part in this.... he's as bad McNamara (Defense Sec. Vietnam).  Who in his biography said he knew they were fighting a war to lose (Vietnam) from the outset. Why let 58,000 men and women die then?

JT's an army brat and son of a Vietnam Vet.  At this point through reading JT's come to his own conclusions with a slight influence from Pop.  Dad said if they would have let us fight it, Vietnam was winnable.  But as Johnson said," They don't bomb as much as an outhouse without my approval."

It is sad that men and women have to die for big business, but its been that way since Korea.  The US doesn't fight wars cause its the right thing to do, wars are fought for money nowadays.

Sorry to be a downer to the LLPP but it struck a nerve.

geo political depates give RT serious headaches...

where's Garnet w/ some hot pics

Hot pics would be in order right now.