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[mattvsmith]

just because...

Which breast is "POW" and which breast is "DOW"?

POW-DOW!!!

[mattvsmith]

By the way, The Rev is at home listening to Ol' Dirty Bastard.

And it's killing The Rev that Biggie and Tupac get all the attention, when others have fallen like ODB.



The Rev wants to give a big ups to ODB in the great recording studio in the sky.

WU TANG FOREVER!

[labart96]

WHO DAT?!?!?!?


GAME BALL GOES TO THE DUECE!

[Lyco80]

I find it hard to resist posting some thoughts after reading some of the IR (international relations) and poli sci posts of previous pages regarding the military and Iraq.

My bona fides:  I am Navy active duty (21 years), have been deployed overseas on ships, lived in an open bay tent with eight other dudes and am presently overseas in Japan (for three years).

I survived the 600 ship Navy and the drawdown brought about by the supposed "peace dividend."  Both were examples of political pendulum swings that have had sweeping effects.  These negative impacts were most immediately felt upon the women and men of our military -  as many mid-career people were forced out.  First, because the 600 ship Navy was economically unsustainable.  Later, when the whole world seemed ready to belt out Koo Ba Ya, and the post-Gulf War period drawdown began in earnest, more career volunteers, particularly the mid-grade Junior Officers, NCOs and SNCOS, were sent home via forced attrition.  This was the time when the phrase "hollow military" was in vogue.

Yet, despite our best wishes, the world remained a dangerous and nasty neighborhood.  Somalian warlords denied UN food to their people.  Ethic cleansing took place in Rwanda, Albania and the Balkans, and well, the Middle East was no picnic during this period either.

Face it folks - Colonel Nathan Jessup is right - "we need people on that wall" and I would prefer to have more than less, particularly ground troops, and trained and armed to the teeth.

America is a fabulously wealthy country and can afford a robust military - how it is used is always up for debate - and appropriately so in a democracy.

But we should not delude ourselves into wishful thinking that the world around us is like our relations with Canada.

Let me just point out that Iraq is a walk in the park compared with the DPRK and the PRC.  And if you think 3,000 dead is upsetting - turn off your televisions and other media devices if the DPRK decides to come south across the DMZ or launch nuclear missiles.

Isolationism did not protect us in the 20th century and will only make us more vulnerable in the 21st.  We must remain engaged, develop, strengthen, and maintain strategic alliances, and sadly, but willingly, use force from time to time.

More troops died on D-Day then have lost their lives in Iraq.  Casualty estimates for the battle of Okinawa are in the hundreds of thousands when you add up civilian losses. 

America needs to keep its resolve, not loose its nut, and finish things right in Iraq.  Or, to paraphrase both Hosea and Churchill, "we will be in danger of sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind."

We do not want potential trouble makers to reach the wrong conclusions about our Iraqi policy and our squeamishness about using our forces.  If we do, you will need that armed populace and will never be able to go to the mall, a train, a bus station again without thinking about carnage.  Or, come to think of it too, the Stagg Bowl.

All The Best

[Senor RedTackle]

I find it hard to resist posting some thoughts after reading some of the IR (international relations) and poli sci posts of previous pages regarding the military and Iraq.

My bona fides:  I am Navy active duty (21 years), have been deployed overseas on ships, lived in an open bay tent with eight other dudes and am presently overseas in Japan (for three years).

I survived the 600 ship Navy and the drawdown brought about by the supposed "peace dividend."  Both were examples of political pendulum swings that have had sweeping effects.  These negative impacts were most immediately felt upon the women and men of our military -  as many mid-career people were forced out.  First, because the 600 ship Navy was economically unsustainable.  Later, when the whole world seemed ready to belt out Koo Ba Ya, and the post-Gulf War period drawdown began in earnest, more career volunteers, particularly the mid-grade Junior Officers, NCOs and SNCOS, were sent home via forced attrition.  This was the time when the phrase "hollow military" was in vogue.

Yet, despite our best wishes, the world remained a dangerous and nasty neighborhood.  Somalian warlords denied UN food to their people.  Ethic cleansing took place in Rwanda, Albania and the Balkans, and well, the Middle East was no picnic during this period either.

Face it folks - Colonel Nathan Jessup is right - "we need people on that wall" and I would prefer to have more than less, particularly ground troops, and trained and armed to the teeth.

America is a fabulously wealthy country and can afford a robust military - how it is used is always up for debate - and appropriately so in a democracy.

But we should not delude ourselves into wishful thinking that the world around us is like our relations with Canada.

Let me just point out that Iraq is a walk in the park compared with the DPRK and the PRC.  And if you think 3,000 dead is upsetting - turn off your televisions and other media devices if the DPRK decides to come south across the DMZ or launch nuclear missiles.

Isolationism did not protect us in the 20th century and will only make us more vulnerable in the 21st.  We must remain engaged, develop, strengthen, and maintain strategic alliances, and sadly, but willingly, use force from time to time.

More troops died on D-Day then have lost their lives in Iraq.  Casualty estimates for the battle of Okinawa are in the hundreds of thousands when you add up civilian losses. 

America needs to keep its resolve, not loose its nut, and finish things right in Iraq.  Or, to paraphrase both Hosea and Churchill, "we will be in danger of sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind."

We do not want potential trouble makers to reach the wrong conclusions about our Iraqi policy and our squeamishness about using our forces.  If we do, you will need that armed populace and will never be able to go to the mall, a train, a bus station again without thinking about carnage.  Or, come to think of it too, the Stagg Bowl.

All The Best

not bad Lyco....you should send this off to the editorial page of the Times Union or New York Times...RT thinks this would be good material for a wider audience.

[bman]

Deuce aint s**t

NFL gave that game to the aints....

b***strds

[PBR...]

congrats to the saints and to pbr's eagles pbr raises a huge glass and toast's you guys...you lost 4 all pro's this year to injuries and still took the saints to the wire in their house on a short week due to the nfl screwing the eagles in scheduling and admiting so much with the short week on the road against a team sitting home licking their chops for 2 weeks...well done garcia and boyz

['gro]

Gro used to think that he was alone in his obsessive hatred for Michael Irvin's tie know (btw, it was HUGE yesterday... the rest of the tie didn't make it past his chest. Today its pretty normal)  but just type in "michael irvin tie knot" into google and see the results. hilarious.

[dewcrew88]

Deuce aint s**t

NFL gave that game to the aints....

b***strds

Hey... look at that. I'm not the only person that thinks the NFL will give the Saints the benefit of referee calls, etc. to get them to the Super Bowl.
Then the f-ing media can jibber-jabber about how 'they were hit by Hurricane Katrina, and how New Orleans needs a winner, and blah blah blah'... the same sh!t we've heard for almost TWO years...
gah! it's annoying. But maybe I'm just a cynical a-hole.

[Frank Rossi]

Deuce aint s**t

NFL gave that game to the aints....

b***strds

Hey... look at that. I'm not the only person that thinks the NFL will give the Saints the benefit of referee calls, etc. to get them to the Super Bowl.
Then the f-ing media can jibber-jabber about how 'they were hit by Hurricane Katrina, and how New Orleans needs a winner, and blah blah blah'... the same sh!t we've heard for almost TWO years...
gah! it's annoying. But maybe I'm just a cynical a-hole.

Pssssst....BC08...

You're technically part of "the media."  Careful how loud you say such things :-)

[dewcrew88]

Deuce aint s**t

NFL gave that game to the aints....

b***strds

Hey... look at that. I'm not the only person that thinks the NFL will give the Saints the benefit of referee calls, etc. to get them to the Super Bowl.
Then the f-ing media can jibber-jabber about how 'they were hit by Hurricane Katrina, and how New Orleans needs a winner, and blah blah blah'... the same sh!t we've heard for almost TWO years...
gah! it's annoying. But maybe I'm just a cynical a-hole.

Pssssst....BC08...

You're technically part of "the media."  Careful how loud you say such things :-)

FR:
I think that's part of it. Since I'm in it, I'm a lot more critical/cynical of it. That's why it's hard for me to watch the news.

[dewcrew88]

This may make the rest of LLPP laugh.

http://leave-the-man-alone.blogspot.com/search/label/michael%20irvin

[PBR...]

Deuce aint s**t

NFL gave that game to the aints....

b***strds

Hey... look at that. I'm not the only person that thinks the NFL will give the Saints the benefit of referee calls, etc. to get them to the Super Bowl.
Then the f-ing media can jibber-jabber about how 'they were hit by Hurricane Katrina, and how New Orleans needs a winner, and blah blah blah'... the same sh!t we've heard for almost TWO years...
gah! it's annoying. But maybe I'm just a cynical a-hole.

the thing pbr does not like about the nfl scheduling the nfl when asked why they would make the eagles come back after playing the last game of the weekend the previous week and play saturday rather than sunday with a day less rest and preparation and the nfl said "we dont want to have a late game in chicago as it might be too cold for the fans..." wtf? is this not football?? did pbr miss it and baseball season start?? what a lame arse excuse...pbr couldnt believe it when he heard that and the nfl wonders why the conspiracy theories abound...nothing taken away from the saints as the eagles knew what they were getting into but come on nfl you can do better than that...

[mattvsmith]

Today the Rev had his greatest day at the Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport.

The Rev met Mel Stottlemeyer, former pitcher and pitching coach for the New York Yankees.

The Rev was sitting there at the ticket checking line when he looked at an old guy and thought, "Rev,  you recognize this old boy."

The Rev looked at the man's drivers license, noticed the name, saw the face, and looked up again at the old man who knew that The Rev knew who he was.  But The Rev played it cool.  The Rev said it was nice to meet him and left it at that.    Then The Rev broke free and snuck down the concourse, found a pen and paper and laid an ambush.

Even when ambushing The Rev is discreet.  As Mel started down the concourse, The Rev cleared his throat and motioned him to the side.  "Mr. Stottlemeyer, it is against the rules for [The Rev] to ask you for an autograph, but if you don't mind---if it's not an imposition, [The Rev] would love to get your autograph for [The Rev's Dear Old Daddy] who is a lifelong Yankee fan."

The Rev went into the breakroom and people were asking him what was wrong.  Nothing, but The Rev was having a tough time holding back the tears because he was so happy.  The Rev was so happy, he almost spoke in the first person.

Let The Rev tell you all, Mr. Stottlemeyer was very gracious and friendly. 
The Rev was always a fan, but now The Rev is a True Believer.

['gro]

any LLPPers get angry when they see a commercial too many times? so angry that they feel compelled to change the channel? all football season long it's been "this is ourrrr country" but lately it's that wendy's (whispering) $2.99 commercial where the guys eating a chicken sammich the size of a cat turd... why does that commercial get me mad? should gro seek counseling?