FB: Liberty League

[Rolevio]

Someone sent JT a link to this song.  It is soooo bad, but now JT can't get the crap melody or lyrics out of his head.  He dares the LLPP to give it a few minutes, then try to get the song of your head.  SFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA

Rolevio heard this on the way into work today while listening to O&A who decided to play it twice just to screw with their audience.  Rolevio was lucky and it left his head soon after entering work.  Though Rolevio was singing along by the time the song hit halfway through the first play.

[JQV]

Jose, have you read the indictment??  Seems to look pretty strong vs. Ron Mexico to this novice....what are your thoughts??

Just scanned the indictment on The Smoking Gun (which is operated by an IC alum).  Looks to me like the US Attorney got two witnesses to testify to the allegations in the indictment.

They are certainly serious allegations and, I have no doubt that most, if not all, of them are true.

But, it is hard to tell how bad it looks for Vick.

1) The parts of the indictment I read does not refer to a lot of hard evidence outside of the witnesses' testimony.  They have done two searches, I would hope they found something.

2) The witnesses that testified before the Grand Jury were only questioned by the US Attorney.  That means they were not cross examined by Vick's counsel (who is not allowed in a secret Grand Jury meeting) or impeached by Vick's counsel.  Also, I can't remember for sure, but I am pretty sure Grand Juries can rely on information that would be inadmissible under the Federal Rules of Evidence.  That means a lot of the witnesses' testimony could be inadmissible (hearsay, opinion, etc) at trial.  

The other side of the coin is, given the high profile nature of the charges and one of the principal defendants, I am guessing the US Attorney is not going to just put this out there unless they have something they feel is pretty good.  These guys aren't that schmo in Durham, NC.  

Basically though, I think we know as much now as we did yesterday, with the exception that we now know there are at least two witnesses willing to cooperate with the prosecution.

[union89]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

[labart96]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

TGP was born outside Boston, but was raised 12 miles NW of Hartford, CT in a town called Avon.  TGP graduated from Avon (PUBLIC!!!!!) High School.  No AOF for this pumpkin (even though TGP will admit that AOF will typically ship about 5-7 kids a year to Hobart).

Kind of a miracle a school as small as AHS even had football.  Less than 500 students total when TGP went there.  Played in the NCCC (as in North Central Connecticut Conference) and were Class S (CT had 6 divisions back then based on enrollment S, SS, M, MM, L, LL.  Pretty obvious where AHS fell in that ranking).  Only 3 other NCCC members had teams (and all were pretty terrible since those towns were even smaller than Avon).

The result of this was AHS had to play other schools from larger divisions that were around the greater Hartford area.

Opponents ranged from such aptly named CT towns such as Meriden, Berlin, St. Paul (Bristol) Catholic, Northwest Catholic (West Hartford), Guilford, Plainville, Simsbury and Farmington.

Our school mascot was the Falcons (but there were no dog rings in Avon back then).

[Jonny Utah]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

Fall River/New Bedford!  Thats fantastic.  Actually JU is from one of the most liberal wackjob places in the country....Brookline, Massachusetts.  A place where silver spoons were silvered........

[JT]

JT was born into the 82nd Airborne in Ft. Bragg, NC.  Pops was Airborne and a Vietnam vet.  Moved around a lot (NC, TX, PA, OK, NC) until Pops went into the Reserves and started a Sales career in NJ/NY.  JT grew up from the age of 6 in Bergenfield, NJ in Northern NJ.  JT played football and baseball from the age of 9-17.  He continued to play rugby, adult flag and semi-pro baseball through his mid-late 20's.  He still plays fastpitch softball.  Professionally JT is an entepreneur.

[Knightstalker]

KS was born in Hackensack NJ and moved to Mansfield Twp NJ in Warren county at the age of 1.  KS attended Warren Hills Jr and Sr high in Washington NJ.  The current head coach of the University of Minnesota also went to this HS before transferring to Phillipsburg High and was a year older than KS.  The MAC boards own Bob Zadie also went to this school and was captain of KS football team KS sophmore year.  KS played baseball from the age of 6 or 7 until 17 and again when he was 21 and 22 while in the Navy.  KS played football his soph and Jr years in hs but screwed up a knee and ankle.  KS enlisted in the Navy during the beginning of his Sr year and decided not to play football as the Navy docs said if KS screwed up his knee anymore he would be physically disqualified.  KS played another year of football while in the Navy, but it wasn't even a full season before KS went to sea for three months.  KS went to college at NJCU then JCSC at the age of thirty after getting out of the Navy and getting laid off from the tool and die shop KS was working in.

[union89]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

Fall River/New Bedford!  Thats fantastic.  Actually JU is from one of the most liberal wackjob places in the country....Brookline, Massachusetts.  A place where silver spoons were silvered........

Everybody has interesting stuff....JU, do I have permission to use, "A place where silver spoons were silvered....".  Any royalty for that one??  +1K

Garnet may still have you beat though....I'll let him share if he chooses to.

[Garnet]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

You are thinking of your linemate Clif Genge.  

Garnet's hometown Rye, NY .  Rye High School.  Lived in Scarsdale, NY until the age of 4, then moved to Rye.

[union89]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

You are thinking of your linemate Clif Genge.  

Garnet's hometown Rye, NY .  Rye High School.  Lived in Scarsdale, NY until the age of 4, then moved to Rye.

Never heard of Painted Post before Cliff Genge nor after.....his dad must have owned 10,000 chickens....7 goats and at least two old broken down plows.

[Jonny Utah]

Yea Brookline probably isnt the big silver spoon town that Rye is, but at least Brookline used to be a tough town back in the day.  I dont think Rye was ever tough.....

[Senor RedTackle]

A few posts over on the NESCAC board made me think of something.....Gro (Schenectady) and I (Worcester) have poked fun at our respective hometowns.  I know LD is from the Lowell area but curious about everyone else. 

Homework assignment...what is everyone's hometown....high school optional...Utah seems like kind of a Fall River/New Bedford dude.

A guy Garnet and I graduated with was from Painted Post, NY.....he fit the bill for that 1 (who was it, Garnet??  Belvedere can't bail you out, he wasn't a DU).  I have a feeling our PumpkinHead friends could be from some interesting places....

No fun can be poked at Garnet.....he grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth....

You are thinking of your linemate Clif Genge.  

Garnet's hometown Rye, NY .  Rye High School.  Lived in Scarsdale, NY until the age of 4, then moved to Rye.

Never heard of Painted Post before Cliff Genge nor after.....his dad must have owned 10,000 chickens....7 goats and at least two old broken down plows.

RT knows Painted Post...down I-390 in W. NY by Corning.

RT went to Aquinas Institute in Rochester, NY...Catholic HS. RT played football, basketball, and golf. RT played basketball, baseball, and soccer as a youth b/c he was too big for pop warner weight limits. After a stellar career pancake-ing Dutchmen, Statesmen, and Larries, RT stayed for his MBA at RPI. RT has been in sales since then.....Michelin, IBM, and now a distributor for IBM.  

RT also likes walks on the beach, Saturdays, and chocolate cake. Turn off's are rude people and rainy mondays....

[Jonny Utah]

Yea thats right, Ive heard of painted post by corning....good lax I think...

[Garnet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDWz23BHJ-U

yeah not tough at all.   

[lewdogg11]

LD11's Schools...

K - Grade 3 - St. Jeanne d'Arc School - Lowell, MA
Grade 4 - St. Patrick's School - Pelham, NH
Grades 5-8 - Pelham Memorial School - Pelham, NH
Grade 8 part II - St. Louis Junior High - Lowell, MA
Grades 9-10(beginning of 11) - Central Catholic HS - Lawrence, MA
After Thanksgiving Day until end of Grade 11 - Pelham HS - Pelham, NH
Grade 12 - Lowell High School - Lowell, MA

I will also add that LD11 quarterbacked the Pelham-Windham(NH) Razorbacks to the 1990 NH Pee Wee Pop Warner state title and were the 1992 NH Midgets Pop Warner Runners Up. 

LD11's little league team, the Angels, won the league championship 3 years out of 4 from ages 9-12.

LD11's biddy basketball team, the Pacers, also won the under 12 league 3 consecutive years.

Also in 1990, LD11 was selected for the 11 and under NH AAU Basketball squad which travelled to Orlando, FL to compete against other state representatives from all over the country.

In 1992, LD11's mom told him he was 'handsome'.

In 1999, 'Gro's mom told LD11 he was 'a catch'.

In 2001, 'Reg's mom told LD11 that she wished her son was as good looking as LD11.