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[FisherAlum05]

FA05's opinion on the matter:

Upstate New York Rankings

1. SJFC
2. Ithaca
3. Alfred
4. RPI
5. Cortland
6. Hobart
7. Union
8. Rochester
9. Brockport
10. St. Lawrence
11 - 17.  Can't really say yet

Post that garbage over on the E8 board.....3 E8 teams better that anyone in the LL.....U89 seems to have heard this one before......didn't work out so well for the E8 2 years ago when we played heads up during the post season.  Fisher is the class, but Ithaca has proved NOTHING lately.  U89 is not even going to address Alfred.

Union89,

I will post whatever I want, wherever I want, whenever I want.  It's a free country.  All I was doing was giving my honest opinion on the Upstate Rankings.  By the way, I DO have 3 E8 teams ranked ahead of LL teams cause they are better teams this season in my opinion.  Fisher is loaded, Ithaca has a ton of talent and a great defense, and Alfred will be as good as they have ever been this season.  To defend Alfred, they would win the LL this season and will be dangerous in the E8.  Now I will go back to the E8 board with my so called "garbage."  

[superman57]

ok fa05 if you want people to like you and the other e8pp who inhabitt the world that is the LLpp you need to respect them...and placing 3 e8 teams at the top is wrong and stupid...

[union89]

FA05's opinion on the matter:

Upstate New York Rankings

1. SJFC
2. Ithaca
3. Alfred
4. RPI
5. Cortland
6. Hobart
7. Union
8. Rochester
9. Brockport
10. St. Lawrence
11 - 17.  Can't really say yet

Post that garbage over on the E8 board.....3 E8 teams better that anyone in the LL.....U89 seems to have heard this one before......didn't work out so well for the E8 2 years ago when we played heads up during the post season.  Fisher is the class, but Ithaca has proved NOTHING lately.  U89 is not even going to address Alfred.

Union89,

I will post whatever I want, wherever I want, whenever I want.  It's a free country.  All I was doing was giving my honest opinion on the Upstate Rankings.  By the way, I DO have 3 E8 teams ranked ahead of LL teams cause they are better teams this season in my opinion.  Fisher is loaded, Ithaca has a ton of talent and a great defense, and Alfred will be as good as they have ever been this season.  To defend Alfred, they would win the LL this season and will be dangerous in the E8.  Now I will go back to the E8 board with my so called "garbage."  

Honestly, I thought you were just bustin' chops......since you were serious, I'm leaning more towards ignorant!!!!

[Jonny Utah]

So heres how last years playoffs could have went.......

First Round (at home sites)
Rutgers(16) at Ohio St (1)
Wake Forest(15) at Florida (2)
West Virginai(14) at Michigan (3)
Arkansas(13) at LSU (4)
Notre Dame(12) at Louisville (5)
Auburn(11) at Wisconsin (6)
VA Tech(10) at Boise St (7)
USC(9) at Oklahoma (8)

Second Round
Oklahoma (8) at Ohio St (1) [at RCA dome in Indy]
Boise St (7) at Florida (2) [at Orange Bowl]
Wisconsin (6) at Michigan (3) [at dome in St Louis?]
Louisville (5) at LSU (4) [at Cotton Bowl]

Third Round
LSU at Ohio St [at Rose Bowl]
Michigan at Florida [at Sugar Bowl]

championship
Florida at Ohio St [Fiesta Bowl]

-----------------------------------------
Now here the big bowls still get their games and you could probably put some of those 2nd round games at other big bowl sites (citrus etc)

[Jonny Utah]

ok fa05 if you want people to like you and the other e8pp who inhabitt the world that is the LLpp you need to respect them...and placing 3 e8 teams at the top is wrong and stupid...

It could be true though.  Still way to early to know any of this though.  But I dont think you can say any of those LL teams are as good as IC or Alfred, and you cant say IC or Alfred are as good as the top 5 LL teams either.

[union89]

ok fa05 if you want people to like you and the other e8pp who inhabitt the world that is the LLpp you need to respect them...and placing 3 e8 teams at the top is wrong and stupid...

It could be true though.  Still way to early to know any of this though.  But I dont think you can say any of those LL teams are as good as IC or Alfred, and you cant say IC or Alfred are as good as the top 5 LL teams either.

Utah, climb aboard the 'Ignorance Train' along with FA05....there is tons of room.

We are alot of things here in LLPP, but we are certainly objective when we guage our conference.  Not many LLer's would cruise over to the E8 and claim that the Larries would finish 2nd in the conf. without something to back it up. 

I put Alfred at #9 in the Pre-Season Poll, but to state that they would win the LL in '07 is ridiculous!!!

[Jonny Utah]

ok fa05 if you want people to like you and the other e8pp who inhabitt the world that is the LLpp you need to respect them...and placing 3 e8 teams at the top is wrong and stupid...

It could be true though.  Still way to early to know any of this though.  But I dont think you can say any of those LL teams are as good as IC or Alfred, and you cant say IC or Alfred are as good as the top 5 LL teams either.

Utah, climb aboard the 'Ignorance Train' along with FA05....there is tons of room.

We are alot of things here in LLPP, but we are certainly objective when we guage our conference.  Not many LLer's would cruise over to the E8 and claim that the Larries would finish 2nd in the conf. without something to back it up. 

I put Alfred at #9 in the Pre-Season Poll, but to state that they would win the LL in '07 is ridiculous!!!

Well the Upstate coaches have Alfred tied with Union and ahead of RPI and only a few points behind Hobart (a team they lost by 1 TD last year and who supposedly lost all these starters)  I dont think predicting Alfred to be that high is that rediculus.

But he should have backed it up you are right.

['gro]

So heres how last years playoffs could have went.......

First Round (at home sites)
Rutgers(16) at Ohio St (1)
Wake Forest(15) at Florida (2)
West Virginai(14) at Michigan (3)
Arkansas(13) at LSU (4)
Notre Dame(12) at Louisville (5)
Auburn(11) at Wisconsin (6)
VA Tech(10) at Boise St (7)
USC(9) at Oklahoma (8)

Second Round
Oklahoma (8) at Ohio St (1) [at RCA dome in Indy]
Boise St (7) at Florida (2) [at Orange Bowl]
Wisconsin (6) at Michigan (3) [at dome in St Louis?]
Louisville (5) at LSU (4) [at Cotton Bowl]

Third Round
LSU at Ohio St [at Rose Bowl]
Michigan at Florida [at Sugar Bowl]

championship
Florida at Ohio St [Fiesta Bowl]

-----------------------------------------
Now here the big bowls still get their games and you could probably put some of those 2nd round games at other big bowl sites (citrus etc)

I like.  at first I wanted all home sites and just the championship game neutral. Just to give the fans something for their loyalty (imagine a blizzard bowl in Columbus or ann arbor or morgantown) but your structure works.

One MAJOR change... you must include all the conferences. Say what you want about the non BCS teams, but as long as they are classified as D1-A they should be involved. Debating the level of competition between the BCS and others is a whole other topic. I would take the 11 conference champs and the top 5 teams in the BCS poll that didn't win their conference.  So yes, a team like auburn would probably get left out for whoever won the sunbelt conference. But at least all 120 teams could recruit with the promise at the chance of a championship.   Kinda like how smaller bball schools are fighting for that #16 seed. Has a 16 ever beat a #1? No. Should they drop the # of teams in march madness to 60 and give 4 teams a bye? No way.

I usually save this rant for the end of the year, glad to get it out of the way now.

On to more pressing issues... UNION SUCKS.

[Regulator]

So heres how last years playoffs could have went.......

First Round (at home sites)
Rutgers(16) at Ohio St (1)
Wake Forest(15) at Florida (2)
West Virginai(14) at Michigan (3)
Arkansas(13) at LSU (4)
Notre Dame(12) at Louisville (5)
Auburn(11) at Wisconsin (6)
VA Tech(10) at Boise St (7)
USC(9) at Oklahoma (8)

Second Round
Oklahoma (8) at Ohio St (1) [at RCA dome in Indy]
Boise St (7) at Florida (2) [at Orange Bowl]
Wisconsin (6) at Michigan (3) [at dome in St Louis?]
Louisville (5) at LSU (4) [at Cotton Bowl]

Third Round
LSU at Ohio St [at Rose Bowl]
Michigan at Florida [at Sugar Bowl]

championship
Florida at Ohio St [Fiesta Bowl]

-----------------------------------------
Now here the big bowls still get their games and you could probably put some of those 2nd round games at other big bowl sites (citrus etc)

I like.  at first I wanted all home sites and just the championship game neutral. Just to give the fans something for their loyalty (imagine a blizzard bowl in Columbus or ann arbor or morgantown) but your structure works.

One MAJOR change... you must include all the conferences. Say what you want about the non BCS teams, but as long as they are classified as D1-A they should be involved. Debating the level of competition between the BCS and others is a whole other topic. I would take the 11 conference champs and the top 5 teams in the BCS poll that didn't win their conference.  So yes, a team like auburn would probably get left out for whoever won the sunbelt conference. But at least all 120 teams could recruit with the promise at the chance of a championship.   Kinda like how smaller bball schools are fighting for that #16 seed. Has a 16 ever beat a #1? No. Should they drop the # of teams in march madness to 60 and give 4 teams a bye? No way.

I usually save this rant for the end of the year, glad to get it out of the way now.

On to more pressing issues... UNION SUCKS.

Gro- Me head hurts.

[union89]

So heres how last years playoffs could have went.......

First Round (at home sites)
Rutgers(16) at Ohio St (1)
Wake Forest(15) at Florida (2)
West Virginai(14) at Michigan (3)
Arkansas(13) at LSU (4)
Notre Dame(12) at Louisville (5)
Auburn(11) at Wisconsin (6)
VA Tech(10) at Boise St (7)
USC(9) at Oklahoma (8)

Second Round
Oklahoma (8) at Ohio St (1) [at RCA dome in Indy]
Boise St (7) at Florida (2) [at Orange Bowl]
Wisconsin (6) at Michigan (3) [at dome in St Louis?]
Louisville (5) at LSU (4) [at Cotton Bowl]

Third Round
LSU at Ohio St [at Rose Bowl]
Michigan at Florida [at Sugar Bowl]

championship
Florida at Ohio St [Fiesta Bowl]

-----------------------------------------
Now here the big bowls still get their games and you could probably put some of those 2nd round games at other big bowl sites (citrus etc)

I like.  at first I wanted all home sites and just the championship game neutral. Just to give the fans something for their loyalty (imagine a blizzard bowl in Columbus or ann arbor or morgantown) but your structure works.

One MAJOR change... you must include all the conferences. Say what you want about the non BCS teams, but as long as they are classified as D1-A they should be involved. Debating the level of competition between the BCS and others is a whole other topic. I would take the 11 conference champs and the top 5 teams in the BCS poll that didn't win their conference.  So yes, a team like auburn would probably get left out for whoever won the sunbelt conference. But at least all 120 teams could recruit with the promise at the chance of a championship.   Kinda like how smaller bball schools are fighting for that #16 seed. Has a 16 ever beat a #1? No. Should they drop the # of teams in march madness to 60 and give 4 teams a bye? No way.

I usually save this rant for the end of the year, glad to get it out of the way now.

On to more pressing issues... UNION SUCKS.

OK....Yazz Flute....the asswhuppin' is only 48 hours when Joseph Addai starts running all over 'da Saints.

['gro]

Reg, your head hurts when you read.   That's it, that's the joke.


U89 - it's not too late to delete your team and avoid the embarrassment.  Westbrook and MJD?? You can not compete with this.

[lewdogg11]

I think Union stinks.  And Alfred stinks.  and RPI is good.  and what I think is all that matters.  I think St. Lawrence stinks.  I think Ithaca stinks.  My mom says St John Fisher kinda stinks.  Hobart is stinky too.  I think RPI doesn't stink.  but ROchester does stink.

I think Cortland is stoopid.

I think U89's Fantasy Team stinks.  

I think RT's stories of breaking up with his girl stinks since he never does it.  I like RT's pictures though.

I like PBR's pictures too.

I think 'Gro's armpits stink.

I think Regulator is cool.  

[mattvsmith]

FA05's opinion on the matter:

Upstate New York Rankings

1. SJFC
2. Ithaca
3. Alfred
4. RPI
5. Cortland
6. Hobart
7. Union
8. Rochester
9. Brockport
10. St. Lawrence
11 - 17.  Can't really say yet

The Rev thinks 'Bart will beat 'Fred again this year, and he is still up in the air about RPI and Union.
The Rev thinks that playing Alfred after St. Lawrence is good timing.
The Rev thinks playing Union the week after Alfred is bad timing.
Statesmen might be beaten up after Alfred game.  Then again, a win over the Saxons could be the positive momentum Bart needs to fight a tough Union team.

Must. See. Games.

[Knightstalker]

+K for the little bus with lift kit.  Red Neck special ed transport.

[Jonny Utah]

So heres how last years playoffs could have went.......

First Round (at home sites)
Rutgers(16) at Ohio St (1)
Wake Forest(15) at Florida (2)
West Virginai(14) at Michigan (3)
Arkansas(13) at LSU (4)
Notre Dame(12) at Louisville (5)
Auburn(11) at Wisconsin (6)
VA Tech(10) at Boise St (7)
USC(9) at Oklahoma (8)

Second Round
Oklahoma (8) at Ohio St (1) [at RCA dome in Indy]
Boise St (7) at Florida (2) [at Orange Bowl]
Wisconsin (6) at Michigan (3) [at dome in St Louis?]
Louisville (5) at LSU (4) [at Cotton Bowl]

Third Round
LSU at Ohio St [at Rose Bowl]
Michigan at Florida [at Sugar Bowl]

championship
Florida at Ohio St [Fiesta Bowl]

-----------------------------------------
Now here the big bowls still get their games and you could probably put some of those 2nd round games at other big bowl sites (citrus etc)

I like.  at first I wanted all home sites and just the championship game neutral. Just to give the fans something for their loyalty (imagine a blizzard bowl in Columbus or ann arbor or morgantown) but your structure works.

One MAJOR change... you must include all the conferences. Say what you want about the non BCS teams, but as long as they are classified as D1-A they should be involved. Debating the level of competition between the BCS and others is a whole other topic. I would take the 11 conference champs and the top 5 teams in the BCS poll that didn't win their conference.  So yes, a team like auburn would probably get left out for whoever won the sunbelt conference. But at least all 120 teams could recruit with the promise at the chance of a championship.   Kinda like how smaller bball schools are fighting for that #16 seed. Has a 16 ever beat a #1? No. Should they drop the # of teams in march madness to 60 and give 4 teams a bye? No way.

I usually save this rant for the end of the year, glad to get it out of the way now.

On to more pressing issues... UNION SUCKS.

I dont think you can include a Sunbelt champ if the field is only 16.  I wouldnt mind a playoff game though to get the last two seeds though (MAC vs Sunbelt and Big West vs Mountain West) And I forgot aboug conference USA as well.  Maybe have a conference powerranking at the end of the year and have the lowest 4 battle it out for the last 2 spots.  Then you could have 6 pool c bids make the tourney instead of 4.  Of course you could always make it 32 teams.  That would be just as fun I think.