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[fan of d3]

its not a copout, i just dont see the difference between that and a qb calling a time with 1 second left, or a defensive coach doing it when he sees his D isnt aligned right. 

[mattvsmith]

The problem with making a rule against time-outs on field goals is that coaches will find some other way to mess with the timing of the game.  The Law of Unintended Consequences will rear its ugly head.

On the other hand, it is the biggest chickenish move and The Rev HATES it almost as much as he hates prevent defense.  In fact, it strikes The Rev that the type of coach who calls T.O. on the moment of the snap is the same type who play prevent defense.  Stoopid.

['gro]

its not a copout, i just dont see the difference between that and a qb calling a time with 1 second left, or a defensive coach doing it when he sees his D isnt aligned right. 

good point.  On a FG attempt, should there be any alignment problems besides maybe less than 11 men on the field? Rarely. So why take a TO?

The NFL will fix it somehow (trust me they will, they want keep cheerleaders away from the away team so it's not a distraction). It's happened 3 times this season and it takes away from an exciting finish.  It's no fun to have every last second FG kicked twice, or have some coach complain the he called a TO before the snap.

[fan of d3]

I agree while it does take away from an exciting finish, it really depends on what side you're rooting for.

Think about how that place would have erupted last night if the kicker MISSED it.  It would have certainly made it more exciting and it would have made Jauron look like a genius.....for once.

[Regulator]

I agree while it does take away from an exciting finish,

Why can't you just leave it at this?  I knew you agreed with the Regulator......

Thanks (worthless) fan of d3 (read my signature for the rest of my response)

[dewcrew88]

Can't we all just get along?

DC88's ATR column for the week is up and live, and it's good, natch.

[superman57]

honestly does the rule need to be fixed probably...but it did not affect the out come of the game and it made for great drama....

[PBR...]

so ......does anyone have any opinions on the time out fiasco in the bill/cowgirls game the other night?    ENUF already....pbr feels like his head is going to explode....more importantly pbr needs to make a strong comeback in the LLPPFFL

[Jonny Utah]

its not a copout, i just dont see the difference between that and a qb calling a time with 1 second left, or a defensive coach doing it when he sees his D isnt aligned right. 

Heres the difference. 

The QB calls a timeout because he doesnt like the defense he sees.

The coach calling the timeout is doing it because he wants to see the excitement of the play to happen and then have the kicker kick it again.  He WANTS the kicker to kick a FG that doesnt count.  If all he wanted to do is ice the kicker, he could call a timeout right when the FG unit goes on the field.

Baseball has a rule (cant remember the exact rules) that basically lets umps call something if there is a "travesty of the game".  This is sort of what is happening with these FG timeouts.  Its within the rules, but its a flaw that will be fixed.

So Reg is right.

[lewdogg11]

Reg is ALWAYS right!!!

['gro]

Grab a bucket of Regulator Fried Chicken... Reg does chicken RIGHT!!

[PBR...]

case closed reg throws d3 phan overboard....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9wK2hFmxT4

[Regulator]

It's not about wining or losing, it's how you play the game.  That is what my whole rant was about.

I bet Jonny Fairplay feels like a total tool right now!  Why did he think he could jump up on Danny B and hump his face?

[union89]

It's not about wining or losing, it's how you play the game.  That is what my whole rant was about.

I bet Jonny Fairplay feels like a total tool right now!  Why did he think he could jump up on Danny B and hump his face?

There is a 'Gro, LD, Reg joke here, but U89 is takin' the high road.......

[fan of d3]

its not a copout, i just dont see the difference between that and a qb calling a time with 1 second left, or a defensive coach doing it when he sees his D isnt aligned right. 

Heres the difference. 

The QB calls a timeout because he doesnt like the defense he sees.

The coach calling the timeout is doing it because he wants to see the excitement of the play to happen and then have the kicker kick it again.  He WANTS the kicker to kick a FG that doesnt count.  If all he wanted to do is ice the kicker, he could call a timeout right when the FG unit goes on the field.
Baseball has a rule (cant remember the exact rules) that basically lets umps call something if there is a "travesty of the game".  This is sort of what is happening with these FG timeouts.  Its within the rules, but its a flaw that will be fixed.

So Reg is right.

Firs I never agreed with him, the rule should not be changed...sorry guys, just because it changes the excitement doesnt mean it should be changed...and i shouldnt..

Also, The coach does not want the "excitemen" of the game changed, I'm sure he doesnt care at all about that.  He wants to mess the kicker up.  He doesnt call a TO right when the field goal unit comes on the field cuz there might be 20 seconds left on the play clock.  Let those 20 seconds wind down, then call it and let the kicker think abotu it some more, let the pressure build, let the wind pick up. anything.  'm sure if the wind was 30 MPH in his face he wouldnt call it but he is looking for some sort of edge.