FB: Liberty League

[Frank Rossi]

The apocolypse is obviously near, as the BCS Rankings were released for the first time this season:

1) Ohio State
2) South Florida
3) Boston College

HUH?!

[Rolevio]

Johnny Utah and LD11 what affiliation do you guys have with Mass D1 football? I'm curious and didnt expect to see that on this board

We are both experts on Massachusetts High School Football from 1987-1997

interesting, merrimack valley?

Although JU tore through the Merrimack Valley in his Pop Warner days, LD11 finished off the job in highschool.....

its good to find some neighbors  8)

Rolevio's school was Merrimack Valley as well (Cape Ann League) though Rolevio didn't play and thinks 1994 may have been the last time my alma mater had a winning season.

[retagent]

I gotch yer UPSTATE, Right Here!!

[Knightstalker]

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[redswarm81]

No one has yet mentioned that undefeated RPI finally snuck onto the Top 25.

It's also worth noting that undefeated, No. 24 ranked Muhlenberg is coached by Mike Donnelly, who coached at  RPI for a couple of seasons--tenuous, but a Liberty League connection.

I probably should have posted these factoids in two separate posts, in order to improve the Lurk:Post ratio, which was under 10 a couple seasons ago.

[mattvsmith]

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The Rev is partial to Miss October 1st, because of the aviation theme.

Likelihood that The Rev will be able to make her the official ADOT-Aeronautics poster girl: 0%.
Likelihood that The Rev will have a tough time concentrating on work today because of Miss Oct 1: 100%.

[res ipsa loquitur]

Anybody else out there excited about what should be a fun game to watch at the Boz in 2 weeks.  A most likely 7-0 Alfred team against Hobart, who should be 5-2, and has outscored its last 3 "opponents" 141 to 57.  Can you say Boise State - Nevada? 



Miss October 5 is pretty sweet.  And much props to the photographer.  Nothing like a well placed gleam of light that gives the bum a warm glow. 

[AUPepBand]

Anybody else out there excited about what should be a fun game to watch at the Boz in 2 weeks.  A most likely 7-0 Alfred team against Hobart, who should be 5-2, and has outscored its last 3 "opponents" 141 to 57.  Can you say Boise State - Nevada? 

Pep is most excited about the game at the Boz in two weeks...Hobart has had AU's number in recent years, yet always close games. But first things first, Husson, while a young program, is no slouch. Saxons need to make a clean sweep of Merrill Field before they head to the Boz.

[Frank Rossi]

Hobart should feel somewhat better about Pool C potential.  If Hobart can run the table, including winning against Alfred, and finish 8-2, it may have some decent consideration for a Pool C slot.  What I termed as about 15% a couple weeks ago has increased, by my estimation, to around 25%, as there are only 41 one- or zero-loss teams (excluding NESCAC and NEFC) to compete for 30 slots (that excludes the one NEFC slot and the IBC slot, as there is a guarantee that the IBC winner will have two losses or more).  Ten of the one-loss teams face each other, meaning at least five of them will have two losses. 

So, 36 teams for 30 slots with four weeks to go...pretty low by most years' standards, meaning two-loss teams should begin watching the national standings for some clues as to their chances.

[superman57]

Frank in your opinion, which east teams have the best shots at making pool c if they end with two losses

[Garnet]

Holy Crap!

Redswarm is posting in the LLPP!!!

['gro]

Holy Crap!

Redswarm is posting in the LLPP!!!

Mothers, lock up your daughters.

[labart96]

Anybody else out there excited about what should be a fun game to watch at the Boz in 2 weeks.  A most likely 7-0 Alfred team against Hobart, who should be 5-2, and has outscored its last 3 "opponents" 141 to 57.  Can you say Boise State - Nevada? 

Pep is most excited about the game at the Boz in two weeks...Hobart has had AU's number in recent years, yet always close games. But first things first, Husson, while a young program, is no slouch. Saxons need to make a clean sweep of Merrill Field before they head to the Boz.

This Alfred game is pretty much Bart's season.  If they win, NCAAs are possible.  If they lose, it's just playing for pride (vs. Union and Rocho) and an ECAC game.

But like Pep says - first things first.  Coach Phelps is bringing the Larries into town and although Bart has won 15 straight, SLU will be gunning for the Statesmen.  Bart needs to avoid looking ahead to the Alfred game and focus on the Saints.

['gro]

gro doesn't normally notice the karma, but the nice round numbers make the math so easy... gro has been bouncing back and forth between 859-860 for a few days... why the hate?

[Frank Rossi]

Frank in your opinion, which east teams have the best shots at making pool c if they end with two losses

This is how I would rank the East Region teams' chances, should these teams end up at two losses.  This is not a power ranking order – it only takes into account what I think the order of preference would be should these teams lose two games.  This is why undefeated teams are so low on the list – two late losses, especially depending on the remaining schedules for those teams, would prove extremely detrimental to their causes.  I group the NJAC teams together purposely; I think the NJAC is almost guaranteed a Pool C slot if at least one of those teams has two losses (based on remaining schedules, there cannot be two teams with one loss in the NJAC except for TCNJ and Montclair, who have played each other already).  The ** means that since the team is in control of its own destiny for the Pool A slot, then they would have three losses if they were eliminated from Pool A contention.  Thus, there is no way for Pool C consideration for those teams as they'll have three losses in that scenario.

1.    SJF            6-1 / 2-1     A loss to Springfield or Alfred may be forgiven, especially if Hartwick stays afloat in the E8 standings.  Last year's playoff performance will not be discounted by committee.

2t.   Cortland St.   5-1 / 4-0     Brockport was the first loss.  A second loss to Rowan, TCNJ, Montclair or Ithaca forgivable as schedule is about the toughest in D3 East this year.

2t.   New Jersey     5-1 / 3-0     Win against Rowan proves potent.  Loss to Muhlenberg is understandable after Mules have ripped every opponent.  Second loss would need to be against a great team (namely, Cortland)

2t.   Rowan          4-2 / 2-1     The Christopher Newport and TCNJ losses could be forgiven if those two teams continue to produce W's.  Rowan would need to play strong against Cortland and Montclair for even a whisper of a chance.

2t.   Montclair      5-1 / 2-1     Loss was to TCNJ, so it would need to hope that TCNJ slips to three losses and would need to lose to either Cortland or Rowan in this scenario.

6.    Wesley         6-1 / 2-0     Pool B – Loss was to Montclair.  Another loss against Salisbury could be forgiven.

7.    Albright       5-1 / 3-0     Loss was to Salisbury.  As long as second loss is to Widener, Albright stands decent shot at two losses.

8.    Alfred         6-0 / 4-0     If losses are to Hobart and SJF, then this is feasible.

9.    Hobart         4-2 / 3-1     A win against Alfred would be key, as losses to RPI and Dickinson (combined one loss) would be easily forgiven.  However, the LL seems to be lacking the respect factor this season.

10.   Hartwick       4-2 / 2-1     Loss to Western New England may be forgivable, but running the table won't be easy, if they are able to, then sure, they'll be considered.

11.   Ithaca         4-2 / 1-2     The Hartwick loss is confusing still, especially if Hartwick slips.  With its remaining schedule including Cortland, Alfred and Springfield, Ithaca could still play its way into Pool C.

12.   Salisbury      7-0 / 2-0     Pool B – Two losses would mean a loss to either/both Becker and/or Frostburg St., both poor-record teams this year.  Unlikely to win slot at two losses.

13.   RPI            5-0 / 3-0     Doubtful that a two-loss (7-2) RPI team would gain entry as two losses would be late in season and non-conference resume is poor.

14.   WPI            4-2 / 1-2     Losses to Union and Hobart don't help matters.  It's pretty unlikely WPI gets a second look in Pool C.

15.   Husson         5-2 / 0-0     Pool B – Would need to beat Alfred this week to receive any consideration.  While a dark horse, it's not likely based on location, lack of prior resume and independent status.

      Union          4-2 / 4-0     **

      Widener        4-2 / 3-0     **