FB: Liberty League

[mattvsmith]

TGP thinks the Rev means the National Lax League.  They are the pro box lax league.  MLL is hanging in there, but not sure how many more seasons they have left.  At least they got that ESPN2 deal last season which probably helped.

TGP is correct.  The Rev did mean the NLL.  The Rev is not a fan of box lacrosse.

[Knightstalker]

KS video/song of the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n7EEcv5bIw&mode=related&search=

NFL Cheerleaders

[Frank Rossi]

check out this pic of Antwan Randel El getting brought down by the facemask... suprised his neck wasn't broken.


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They flag that play?

['gro]

don't know... it's an old pic (this is El's 2nd season in washington).

[Knightstalker]

Thong of the Day

[Frank Rossi]

I took the liberty of ranking the East Region only based on the SOS figures, to the best that I could figure out, from the NCAA Manual, the way they're treating each component.  It appears that Opponents' Opponents' Win % is ONLY a tiebreaker for Opponents' Win % in the rankings.  Thus, this SOS indexing is deceiving; it's only focusing really on Opponents' Win % (I ran the entire chart and ordered the teams based on the index to the left of each name, and Column C descended in lock-step).  I think you'll agree that when you see these results by region here, they produce some odd results:

##  Team                   Conf  A     B    C    D
--  ---------------------- ---- ---  ---- ---- ----
1   New Jersey             NJAC 4-1  .800 .760 .477
2   Brockport State        ACFC 2-2  .500 .758 .485
3   Springfield            E8   3-3  .500 .689 .549
4   Buffalo State          NJAC 1-4  .200 .677 .471
5   Hartwick               E8   4-2  .667 .661 .469
6   Endicott               NEFC 1-5  .167 .661 .441
7   King's                 MAC  0-6  .000 .650 .447
8   Western New England    NEFC 2-5  .286 .643 .489
9   Western Connecticut    NJAC 1-2  .333 .633 .409
10  Fitchburg State        NEFC 0-6  .000 .600 .425
11  Utica                  E8   2-4  .333 .589 .468
12  Norwich                E8   2-5  .286 .588 .446
13  St. Lawrence           LL   2-3  .400 .580 .473
14  Westfield State        NEFC 3-3  .500 .578 .441
15  Plymouth State         NEFC 6-0  1.00 .556 .506
16  Montclair State        NJAC 5-1  .833 .542 .627
17  Worcester State        NEFC 4-3  .571 .533 .431
18  Rowan                  NJAC 4-1  .800 .530 .570
19  Hobart                 LL   4-2  .667 .528 .490
20  Salve Regina           NEFC 1-5  .167 .525 .425
21  Lycoming               MAC  1-5  .167 .508 .384
22  Union                  LL   4-2  .667 .494 .501
23  Alfred                 E8   6-0  1.00 .481 .623
24  Delaware Valley        MAC  3-2  .600 .480 .627
25  Susquehanna            LL   1-6  .143 .474 .474
26  Kean                   NJAC 1-4  .200 .470 .473
27  MIT                    NEFC 1-5  .167 .467 .433
28  St. John Fisher        E8   6-1  .857 .464 .598
29  Merchant Marine        LL   0-7  .000 .457 .452
30  Coast Guard            NEFC 5-1  .833 .456 .509
31  Worcester Polytech     LL   4-2  .667 .456 .465
32  Bridgewater State      NEFC 4-2  .667 .444 .468
33  FDU-Florham            MAC  2-4  .333 .442 .452
34  Ithaca                 E8   4-2  .667 .439 .605
35  Lebanon Valley         MAC  1-5  .167 .439 .461
36  Mount Ida              Ind. 2-5  .286 .438 .461
37  Husson                 Ind. 4-2  .667 .428 .543
38  Maine Maritime         NEFC 4-2  .667 .428 .497
39  Massachusetts Marit.   NEFC 2-5  .286 .421 .488
40  Mass-Dartmouth         NEFC 4-3  .571 .419 .527
41  Nichols                NEFC 4-2  .667 .417 .521
42  RPI                    LL   5-0  1.00 .413 .566
43  Rochester              LL   3-3  .500 .411 .520
44  Wilkes                 MAC  2-4  .333 .392 .468
45  Widener                MAC  3-2  .600 .390 .580
46  Framingham State       NEFC 2-4  .333 .383 .506
47  Becker                 Ind. 1-5  .167 .361 .429
48  William Paterson       NJAC 2-4  .333 .350 .505
49  Cortland State         NJAC 4-1  .800 .347 .578
50  Albright               MAC  5-1  .833 .342 .574
51  Curry                  NEFC 7-0  1.00 .314 .572
52  SUNY-Maritime          Ind. 2-3  .400 .293 .480

A = Regional W/L
B = Regional Win %
C = Opponents' Win % (excluding game vs. that team)
D = Opponents' Opponents' Win % (excluding game vs. that opponent)

[res ipsa loquitur]

check out this pic of Antwan Randel El getting brought down by the facemask... suprised his neck wasn't broken.


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I am pretty sure I was at that game.  Browns-Steelers playoffs in Pittsburgh. (2003 maybe)  It was the only way they could get his ass on the ground that day.  I think he returned a punt for a TD, and caught a pass for one. 

[PBR...]

you aint kidding frank weird stuff..kings and lyco top teams from the mac w/ those records? ...dvc played 2 teams in the top 25 and a divIAA school plus they have won every mac game so far this year. this is some crazy science baby... although looking at it again lyco has played wilkes/albright/ithaca/ who have good records so it kinda makes sense but in reality the mac will be decided in the next several weeks as all the top teams play each other. dvc for example has lyco/widener/wilkes/albright in consecutive weeks so take it w/ a grain of salt but probably fairly accurate right now if its weighted heavily to sos

[Knightstalker]

Win the AQ and you don't have to worry about any of it.

[redswarm81]

I took the liberty of ranking the East Region only based on the SOS figures, to the best that I could figure out, from the NCAA Manual, the way they're treating each component. . . .  I think you'll agree that when you see these results by region here, they produce some odd results:

A = Regional W/L
B = Regional Win %
C = Opponents' Win % (excluding game vs. that team)
D = Opponents' Opponents' Win % (excluding game vs. that opponent)

I took a few liberties with Frank's data.  SoS figures are indeed interesting in the abstract, but their practical value is greatest when using them to compare teams with similar records.  After all, if a team goes 0 - 6 against opponents with a .650 winning percentage, it can't reasonably claim that its SoS merits a higher ranking than a 6 - 0 team whose opponents have a .481 winning percentage.

So, the chart below arranges the East Region teams by winning percentage, teams with identical winning percentages arranged by SoS:

##    Team                   Conf       A          B        C       D   ##^*
51    Curry                  NEFC     7 – 0      1.000    .314    .572    1
15    Plymouth State         NEFC     6 – 0      1.000    .556    .506    2
23    Alfred                 E8       6 – 0      1.000    .481    .623    3
42    RPI                    LL       5 – 0      1.000    .413    .566    4
28    St. John Fisher        E8       6 – 1       .857    .464    .598    5
16    Montclair State        NJAC     5 - 1       .833    .542    .627    6
30    Coast Guard            NEFC     5 - 1       .833    .456    .509    7
50    Albright               MAC      5 - 1       .833    .342    .574    8
1    New Jersey             NJAC     4 - 1       .800    .760    .477    9
18    Rowan                  NJAC     4 - 1       .800    .530    .570   10
49    Cortland State         NJAC     4 - 1       .800    .347    .578   11
5    Hartwick               E8       4 - 2       .667    .661    .469   12
19    Hobart                 LL       4 - 2       .667    .528    .490   13
22    Union                  LL       4 - 2       .667    .494    .501   14
31    Worcester Polytech     LL       4 - 2       .667    .456    .465   15
32    Bridgewater State      NEFC     4 - 2       .667    .444    .468   16
34    Ithaca                 E8       4 - 2       .667    .439    .605   17
37    Husson                 Ind.     4 - 2       .667    .428    .543   18
38    Maine Maritime         NEFC     4 - 2       .667    .428    .497   19
41    Nichols                NEFC     4 - 2       .667    .417    .521   20
24    Delaware Valley        MAC      3 - 2       .600    .480    .627   21
45    Widener                MAC      3 - 2       .600    .390    .580   22
17    Worcester State        NEFC     4 - 3       .571    .533    .431   23
40    Mass – Dartmouth       NEFC     4 - 3       .571    .419    .527   24
2    Brockport State        ACFC     2 - 2       .500    .758    .485   25
3    Springfield            E8       3 - 3       .500    .689    .549   26
14    Westfield State        NEFC     3 - 3       .500    .578    .441   27
43    Rochester              LL       3 - 3       .500    .411    .520   28
13    St. Lawrence           LL       2 - 3       .400    .580    .473   29
52    SUNY – Maritime        Ind.     2 - 3       .400    .293    .480   30
9    Western Connecticut    NJAC     1 - 2       .333    .633    .409   31
11    Utica                  E8       2 - 4       .333    .589    .468   32
33    FDU – Florham          MAC      2 - 4       .333    .442    .452   33
44    Wilkes                 MAC      2 - 4       .333    .392    .468   34
46    Framingham State       NEFC     2 - 4       .333    .383    .506   35
48    William Paterson       NJAC     2 - 4       .333    .350    .505   36
8    Western New England    NEFC     2 - 5       .286    .643    .489   37
12    Norwich                E8       2 - 5       .286    .588    .446   38
36    Mount Ida              Ind.     2 - 5       .286    .438    .461   39
39    Massachusetts Marit    NEFC     2 - 5       .286    .421    .488   40
4    Buffalo State          NJAC     1 - 4       .200    .677    .471   41
26    Kean                   NJAC     1 - 4       .200    .470    .473   42
6    Endicott               NEFC     1 - 5       .167    .661    .441   43
20    Salve Regina           NEFC     1 - 5       .167    .525    .425   44
21    Lycoming               MAC      1 - 5       .167    .508    .384   45
27    MIT                    NEFC     1 - 5       .167    .467    .433   46
35    Lebanon Valley         MAC      1 - 5       .167    .439    .461   47
47    Becker                 Ind.     1 - 5       .167    .361    .429   48
25    Susquehanna            LL       1 - 6       .143    .474    .474   49
7    King's                 MAC      0 - 6       .000    .650    .447   40
10    Fitchburg State        NEFC     0 - 6       .000    .600    .425   41
29    Merchant Marine        LL       0 - 7       .000    .457    .452   42

                  

[JT]

Breaking News - Joe Torre turns down Yanks offer of 5 mil for one year with an option

[PBR...]

pbr doesnt blame torre for rejecting the 1 yr. deal...bush league by the front office and a token contract at best w/ heavy incentives...the guy has proved himself and been a great team mgr....looks like this will gut the team and most players have said they are going to bail if torre isnt brought back

[Knightstalker]

We will see how quickly they bail with money on the line.

[JT]

JT thinks he probably would have taken a two year contract.  Course a 2 mil cut in pay probably didn't help.  Here comes Don Mattingly.  Good luck. He'll need it.

[labart96]

TGP thinks the whole Torre thing is one big PR move by the NYY.

Torre had one of the all time best coaching runs in MLB.  HOFer for sure.  What Torre did to resurrect the Yanks season this year was nothing if not one of the best managing jobs TGP has seen in some time.

Still, there have been grumblings about Torre getting the boot for years and TGP believes this was the one way that the NYY ownership could set it up so it appearred as Joe was going his own way (vs. they looking like d-bags who really wanted to bring in the new blood - aka Mattingly- and fire a guy who has had a great managing career and has been a class act for NYY for 12 seasons).

Besides, at his age, TGP would have to think the Torre has had enough of the NY media, fans, etc.  He's done an amazing job and deserves some well earned RnR.

Congrats to Torre.