FB: Liberty League

[Frank Rossi]

Grady Little resigns as Manager of the LA Dodgers.

The LA Dodgers need a Manager and a 3rd Baseman.

Enter Joe Torre and Alex Rodriguez.

Oof.

[union89]

U89 just got home from the Van Halen show at the Garden featuring Diamond David Lee Roth......

WOOOO DADDDDDDY
U89 boycotted VH with Sammy Haggar....with Sammy it was not Van Halen.  The band rocked everything up to '1984' and totally killed it.  Diamond Dave is ripped and looked better than when U89 saw him back in 1982 at the Worcester Centrum when U89 was a pup!!!!!!!!

[union89]

this was U89 walking out of Troy last year.....(watch the dude run right up to the guy)

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=4094

U89 will never go back to Troy after that experience!!!!!!!!!

[union89]

Superman is fine with the crack whores, as long as they aren't snorting crack off of their baby's stomach

Schenectady is home to some high class CW's... the CW in this case is the daughter of a partner in Sackatoga Stables, which owns Kentucky Derby winner Funny Cide.

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6274

U89's judgement is a bit poor after the Van Halen concert, but U89 thinks this may be wrong.......

[Knightstalker]

U89 just got home from the Van Halen show at the Garden featuring Diamond David Lee Roth......

WOOOO DADDDDDDY
U89 boycotted VH with Sammy Haggar....with Sammy it was not Van Halen.  The band rocked everything up to '1984' and totally killed it.  Diamond Dave is ripped and looked better than when U89 saw him back in 1982 at the Worcester Centrum when U89 was a pup!!!!!!!!

KS is going to see VH on the 13th at MSG, KS can't wait, last time he saw VH was in Jacksonville in Feb of 84 doing the 1984 tour.

[K-Mack]

Holy crap, THAT is simplified?

Time to Simplify the LL Playoff Picture
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First, let's deal with the obvious:  Merchant Marine (0-8, 0-5 LL), Susquehanna (1-7, 0-5 LL) and St. Lawrence (2-5, 1-4 LL) are all eliminated from any NCAA or ECAC playoff contention.  WPI (4-4, 1-4 LL) is also eliminated from NCAA playoff contention, but would be ECAC-eligible with one additional win.  Yet, it's unlikely that a team with four losses and a 0.600 overall record could receive a bid this year, assuming WPI were to win out its remaining schedule.

That leaves RPI (7-0, 5-0 LL), Union (5-2, 5-0 LL), Hobart (6-2, 4-1 LL) and Rochester (5-3, 4-1 LL).  All four teams are still in contention for Pool A and ECAC playoff slots.  However, only RPI and Hobart are eligible for Pool C slots.

Let's make things simple:  the four teams all play inclusively in the final two weeks (this weekend, Hobart at Union and Rochester at RPI -- next weekend, Hobart at Rochester and RPI at Union).  As somebody stated earlier, there are 16 possible combinations of wins and losses, but it isn't that difficult quite yet.

Four scenarios include Union and RPI both winning this week.  If this happens, then Rochester and Hobart would be excluded from Pool A contention and Hobart would be excluded from Pool C contention.  RPI and Union's final game would determine the Pool A winner.

Four other scenarios include Union winning and RPI losing this week.  If this happens, then, again, Rochester and Hobart would be excluded from Pool A contention and Hobart would be excluded from Pool C contention.  RPI and Union's final game would again determine the Pool A winner, as RPI would win in a three-way tie with one loss or Union would win outright at 7-0 in the LL.

That takes care of eight scenarios -- If Union wins this weekend, then the RPI-Union game will determine the LL -- and those will be the only teams eligible for NCAA Playoff contention.

Where it gets a bit more difficult is when we look at the final eight scenarios.  First, four scenarios are controlled by Union losing and RPI winning this weekend.  If this happens, then, again, Hobart and Rochester are eliminated from Pool A contention, as RPI could do no worse than finish in a three-way, one-loss tie or any two-way tie that it controls.  The difference is that the RPI-Union game will not directly determine the LL Pool A slot -- RPI would still win if it loses and ends up in a three-way tie.  In other words, if Union loses and RPI wins this weekend, then if Hobart beats Rochester in the final weekend, then RPI is guaranteed the Pool A slot regardless of result in the RPI-Union game.  If Rochester were to beat Hobart, then the RPI-Union game would determine the LL Championship.  So, Union needs to root for Rochester to beat Hobart in the final week if Union loses to Hobart this week to have any control over its own destiny.

The messiest scenarios fall out if Union and RPI both lose this weekend.  This would make all teams 5-1 in the LL going into the final weekend.  This would guarantee that only two teams would end up in a tie after the final week.  So, if RPI and Union both lose this weekend, Rochester would win the LL only by beating Hobart and RPI beating Union (Rochester would win the tiebreaker against RPI in this scenario).  Hobart would win the LL only by beating Rochester and Union beating RPI.  These are the ONLY two scenarios inside which neither RPI nor Union would win the LL.

To summarize, here are the 16 scenarios:

Union and RPI win this weekend:  Union-RPI game determines Pool A, and Hobart out of Pool C consideration

Union wins, RPI loses this weekend:  Union-RPI game determines Pool A, and Hobart out of Pool C consideration

Union loses, RPI wins this weekend:  Union-RPI game determines Pool A and Hobart is out of Pool C consideration ONLY if Rochester beats Hobart.  Otherwise, RPI wins Pool A slot and Hobart remains in Pool C consideration

Union and RPI lose this weekend:  Final weekend's games determine winner whereby the following results will have the listed ramifications:  
(1) Union and Hobart win -- Hobart wins Pool A, RPI a questionable Pool C candidate;

(2) Union and Rochester win -- Union wins Pool A, Hobart out of Pool C contention;

(3) RPI and Hobart win -- RPI wins Pool A, Hobart in Pool C consideration; or

(4) RPI and Rochester win -- Rochester wins Pool A, Hobart out of Pool C consideration and RPI a questionable Pool C candidate.

Finally, use the three-loss rule for the cutoff when considering ECAC Playoff contention.  It is unlikely that a four-loss team will be selected for these games.  However, at least one three-loss team will be selected from the NEFC, LL, E8 or NJAC teams in Upstate New York and New England that miss the NCAA playoffs.

(EDIT:  Pool A chances for each team, assuming each remaining game to be a 50/50 chance for either team, are:

RPI - 50%, Union - 37.5%, Hobart - 6.25% and Rochester - 6.25%)

(EDIT 2:  RPI with one loss but losing the LL Pool A slot is a virtual lock for a Pool C bid.  However, a 7-2 RPI would be in deep trouble currently, based on Strength of Schedule.  Interestingly, there is no scenario whereby RPI and Hobart both are in consideration for Pool C slots at two losses.  Thus, Hobart's best chance for a Pool C slot is if RPI beats Union.)

[Frank Rossi]

Holy crap, THAT is simplified?

Yep - Union wins this week and knocks out Hobart/Rochester.  If Union loses this week, then the Rochester/Hobart game has implications -- and if RPI loses this week alongside Union, Rochester and Hobart keep their slim chances to win the Pool A slot alive.

[K-Mack]

Can someone explain to RT how Alfred is ranked ahead of RPI in the D3.com top 25 poll when RPI is undefeated and AU's only loss is to a team RPI beat (Hobart)?? The upstate NY poll for this week seems to think RPI should be ranked higher.

RT truly believes that the d3football.com poll rarely gives RPI the respect they. It's been that way for several years as far as RT can remember. That's ok, we like being under the radar.....

(waiting for Frank's analysis here....critical of RT's question)

They respect they what? Deserve?

I had them in the high 20s pointed toward the low teens before they needed to pull one out of their backside against WPI.

They also haven't played a very difficult schedule, as has been noted somewhere once or twice.

But yeah, the Hobart scores seem to be a fairly obvious reason to move them ahead of Alfred.

[K-Mack]

Holy crap, THAT is simplified?

Yep - Union wins this week and knocks out Hobart/Rochester.  If Union loses this week, then the Rochester/Hobart game has implications -- and if RPI loses this week alongside Union, Rochester and Hobart keep their slim chances to win the Pool A slot alive.

I gotcha, it just looks long.

Think anyone will notice if I use your wisdom straight off the boards for ATN? Will credit, of course.

[Frank Rossi]

Holy crap, THAT is simplified?

Yep - Union wins this week and knocks out Hobart/Rochester.  If Union loses this week, then the Rochester/Hobart game has implications -- and if RPI loses this week alongside Union, Rochester and Hobart keep their slim chances to win the Pool A slot alive.

I gotcha, it just looks long.

Think anyone will notice if I use your wisdom straight off the boards for ATN? Will credit, of course.

Go ahead.  I assume no risk of any shouting, kicking or injuries that might result.  :-)

[K-Mack]

Holy crap, THAT is simplified?

Yep - Union wins this week and knocks out Hobart/Rochester.  If Union loses this week, then the Rochester/Hobart game has implications -- and if RPI loses this week alongside Union, Rochester and Hobart keep their slim chances to win the Pool A slot alive.

I gotcha, it just looks long.

Think anyone will notice if I use your wisdom straight off the boards for ATN? Will credit, of course.

Go ahead.  I assume no risk of any shouting, kicking or injuries that might result.  :-)

I guess that was dumb to ask since you already offered to consult with me on it. But since you spelled it out so clearly already ...

[K-Mack]

Can someone explain to RT how Alfred is ranked ahead of RPI in the D3.com top 25 poll when RPI is undefeated and AU's only loss is to a team RPI beat (Hobart)?? The upstate NY poll for this week seems to think RPI should be ranked higher.

(waiting for Frank's analysis here....critical of RT's question)

Sir Tackle the Red, you oughta surf past the Erratic8 board and the East Region Fan Poll board to see some criticism of questions.  I've been asking questions pretty similar to yours, and man, those Ithaca meatheads and Fishfaces just come out of their skin complaining about me just askin'

The truth can now be revealed, the people have a right to know:

The d3football.com voters are in fact, Jedi Knights.  They vote entirely by trusting their feelings.  Except for K-Mack.  He was booted from Jedi preschool by the High Council, for insenstively, offensively trying to round up a game of "Cowboys and Indians" among the young Jedi.

SJFF82 can talk all he wants about "subjective data" and opinions "based largely in part" on blah blah blah, but I've got it figured out--Jedis.

Hey Sweet, I think that was a compliment!

[Knightstalker]

KMack "You don't need me to take out the trash"
Mrs KMack "Knock of the Jedi crap and get your butt in here and take out the trash"

Jedi only works on D3sports.com, not at home.

[PBR...]

Question for the board and more importantly Frank Rossi....Have you ever googled "frank rossi" and clicked on the images tab there is a couple of photos that are quite disturbing that are listed right there...whats the deal w/ that frank? anything you want to share w/ the LLPP we are here for you

[Regulator]

Question for the board and more importantly Frank Rossi....Have you ever googled "frank rossi" and clicked on the images tab there is a couple of photos that are quite disturbing that are listed right there...whats the deal w/ that frank? anything you want to share w/ the LLPP we are here for you

BOL!!! 

"couple of photos that are quite disturbing"...YA THINK!!!