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Frank Rossi

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
And Montclairs OPW was higher than ICs....

The numbers differ with that assessment:

http://www.d3football.com/strength-of-schedule/2007



I guess I dont know exactly what Opponents Winning Percentage is.

Ithacas opponents were 49-51 and Montclairs were 52-18.  And all the games were in-region.  Maybe Im adding wrong.

Nope - The in-region thing stops only on the team in question's own schedule.  So, post the numbers you used to come up with this?!

Jonny Utah

Quote from: The Great Pumpkin on November 12, 2007, 04:05:00 PM
Thx JU.

Hobart's DL is pretty big too.  Aruck is one of the better DLs in recent Hobart FB history.  That kid is 6-2, 305 - probably the same size if not bigger than SJF's OL men - and wreaks havoc on opposing OLs.

Our other DT is a big guy too (6-0, 280), but not as experienced as Aruck.

DEs are solid, but not that big 6-1, 230 and 6-1, 240.  


Im sure there are no Dave Russells on that team...but I bet they still might be ok. ;)

labart96

Classic.

Yeah, no Dave Russells.  Now that kid was one of a kind for sure!

k+

Touchdown Tommy

Congratulations to Hobart and the Engineers on making the Dance.  Well done fellas.  Now it is time to do some damage.

Jonny and the rest of the Ithaca clowns: Remember in 03 when Bridgewater got hammered by MUCk 66-0 in the National Semifinals then little tiny St. John's went into Salem and thoroughly manhandled mighty MUCk 24-6 forcing the purple "fans" to begin exiting the stadium in the 3rd qtr.  Anything can happen on any given day.

TDT will have comments regarding the Shoes game in a bit...
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Jonny Utah

Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2007, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
And Montclairs OPW was higher than ICs....

The numbers differ with that assessment:

http://www.d3football.com/strength-of-schedule/2007



I guess I dont know exactly what Opponents Winning Percentage is.

Ithacas opponents were 49-51 and Montclairs were 52-18.  And all the games were in-region.  Maybe Im adding wrong.

Nope - The in-region thing stops only on the team in question's own schedule.  So, post the numbers you used to come up with this?!

Montclairs Opponents Records

Wilkes 4-6
SC       4-6
Wesley9-1
TCNJ    8-2
BUFF    2-8
Kean   5-5
Corland7-3
Rowan 4-6
WillyP  5-5
WestCT4-6

52-48

Ithaca

Lycoming 3-7
Kings       1-9
Hartwick  8-2
SJF           9-1
Bport       5-5
Norwich   2-8
Utica        3-7
SC           4-6
Alfred       7-3
Cortland   7-3

49-51

Pat Coleman

Yeah, you need regional records for those opponents.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

theoriginalupstate

TGP, SJF's O-line:

LT- Brenden Fortune SR 6-3 315
LG- Ben Musall SO 6-2 285
C-  Mike Weimer SR 6-3 295
RG- Andrew Cottett JR 6-3 300
RT- Peter Soehner FR 6-5 280

Also look for Corey Hogan SR 6-1 280, Justin Wood SR 6-0 270 and Eric Debo SR 6-0 340 to get extensive playing time...

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2007, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
And Montclairs OPW was higher than ICs....

The numbers differ with that assessment:

http://www.d3football.com/strength-of-schedule/2007



I guess I dont know exactly what Opponents Winning Percentage is.

Ithacas opponents were 49-51 and Montclairs were 52-18.  And all the games were in-region.  Maybe Im adding wrong.

Nope - The in-region thing stops only on the team in question's own schedule.  So, post the numbers you used to come up with this?!

Montclairs Opponents Records

Wilkes 4-6
SC       4-6
Wesley9-1 (6-1)
TCNJ    8-2 (7-2)
BUFF    2-8 (1-8)
Kean   5-5  (4-5)
Corland7-3 (6-3)
Rowan 4-6 (4-5)
WillyP  5-5
WestCT4-6 (2-5)

52-48

Ithaca

Lycoming 3-7
Kings       1-9
Hartwick  8-2
SJF           9-1
Bport       5-5 (3-2)
Norwich   2-8
Utica        3-7
SC           4-6
Alfred       7-3
Cortland   7-3 (6-3)

49-51


Ahhh..
Ithaca 46-48
Montclair 43-46

Touchdown Tommy

REG: TDT hopes you bounced that Jackson you owe me off "Paulie's" grill and took your bizness elsewhere.  Is this cat the worst biznessman in LLPP history?  I mean Money talks and Bullsh!t walks. 

Cash is KING!!!!!!!!!
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Senor RedTackle

Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
TGP, SJF's O-line:

LT- Brenden Fortune SR 6-3 315
LG- Ben Musall SO 6-2 285
C-  Mike Weimer SR 6-3 295
RG- Andrew Cottett JR 6-3 300
RT- Peter Soehner FR 6-5 280

Also look for Corey Hogan SR 6-1 280, Justin Wood SR 6-0 270 and Eric Debo SR 6-0 340 to get extensive playing time...

nice sized line...reminds RT of 1994 RPI OL. RT has to admit, one of the factors behind the wild spread offense of RPI was the downsizing of the OL that came into RPI. Most of the guys RT played with were over 6' and all approaching the size of SJF. It seems that since the Dan Cole era, RPI OL has gravitated to the 6' range in the 270s for the most part. Then again, RT never looks at the program and the kids look smaller from the sidelines then when you get up close.....

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Senor RedTackle on November 12, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: Upstate on November 12, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
TGP, SJF's O-line:

LT- Brenden Fortune SR 6-3 315
LG- Ben Musall SO 6-2 285
C-  Mike Weimer SR 6-3 295
RG- Andrew Cottett JR 6-3 300
RT- Peter Soehner FR 6-5 280

Also look for Corey Hogan SR 6-1 280, Justin Wood SR 6-0 270 and Eric Debo SR 6-0 340 to get extensive playing time...

nice sized line...reminds RT of 1994 RPI OL. RT has to admit, one of the factors behind the wild spread offense of RPI was the downsizing of the OL that came into RPI. Most of the guys RT played with were over 6' and all approaching the size of SJF. It seems that since the Dan Cole era, RPI OL has gravitated to the 6' range in the 270s for the most part. Then again, RT never looks at the program and the kids look smaller from the sidelines then when you get up close.....

Usually guys over 6'2/250 arent that smart.  Im sure RPI has a tough time getting those guys in these days.  ;)

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2007, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
And Montclairs OPW was higher than ICs....

The numbers differ with that assessment:

http://www.d3football.com/strength-of-schedule/2007



I guess I dont know exactly what Opponents Winning Percentage is.

Ithacas opponents were 49-51 and Montclairs were 52-18.  And all the games were in-region.  Maybe Im adding wrong.

Nope - The in-region thing stops only on the team in question's own schedule.  So, post the numbers you used to come up with this?!

Montclairs Opponents Records

Wilkes 4-6
SC       4-6
Wesley9-1 (6-1)
TCNJ    8-2 (7-2)
BUFF    2-8 (1-8)
Kean   5-5  (4-5)
Corland7-3 (6-3)
Rowan 4-6 (4-5)
WillyP  5-5
WestCT4-6 (2-5)

52-48

Ithaca

Lycoming 3-7
Kings       1-9
Hartwick  8-2
SJF           9-1
Bport       5-5 (3-2)
Norwich   2-8
Utica        3-7
SC           4-6
Alfred       7-3
Cortland   7-3 (6-3)

49-51


Ahhh..
Ithaca 46-48
Montclair 43-46

Now remove Ithaca's results and Montclair's results from the equation.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 04:30:05 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:24:29 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 12, 2007, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 12, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
And Montclairs OPW was higher than ICs....

The numbers differ with that assessment:

http://www.d3football.com/strength-of-schedule/2007



I guess I dont know exactly what Opponents Winning Percentage is.

Ithacas opponents were 49-51 and Montclairs were 52-18.  And all the games were in-region.  Maybe Im adding wrong.

Nope - The in-region thing stops only on the team in question's own schedule.  So, post the numbers you used to come up with this?!

Montclairs Opponents Records

Wilkes 4-6
SC       4-6
Wesley9-1 (6-1)
TCNJ    8-2 (7-2)
BUFF    2-8 (1-8)
Kean   5-5  (4-5)
Corland7-3 (6-3)
Rowan 4-6 (4-5)
WillyP  5-5
WestCT4-6 (2-5)

52-48

Ithaca

Lycoming 3-7
Kings       1-9
Hartwick  8-2
SJF           9-1
Bport       5-5 (3-2)
Norwich   2-8
Utica        3-7
SC           4-6
Alfred       7-3
Cortland   7-3 (6-3)

49-51


Ahhh..
Ithaca 46-48
Montclair 43-46

Now remove Ithaca's results and Montclair's results from the equation.

Right.  They had the same record anyway.

Ithaca 44-40
MSU 41-38

(I feel like Im in 6th grade math class with Mr. Coleman)

Pat Coleman

Right, but now your numbers come at least into the ballpark of ours, winning percentage wise.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.