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[Jonny Utah]

Right now Rice is projected as a second round pick according to the experts.  He had a 2000 yard season this year, and is already the best running back in Rutgers history. ks thinks he would receive Heisman consideration if he comes back. KS just thinks his two biggest incentives coming back will be the chance to break Ron Daynes record and the chance to try to win the Heisman.  KS thinks playing for Rutgers hurts him there.
KS is wondering if McFadden will be a great running back or just an adequate running back as a lot of backs coming out with the all the hype he has been receiving seem to become.  See Dayne, Benson and some others.

yea if hes a second round pick I would wait and hope Rutgers would be better next year and that he might move up a few notches.

[JT]

Right now Rice is projected as a second round pick according to the experts.  He had a 2000 yard season this year, and is already the best running back in Rutgers history. ks thinks he would receive Heisman consideration if he comes back. KS just thinks his two biggest incentives coming back will be the chance to break Ron Daynes record and the chance to try to win the Heisman.  KS thinks playing for Rutgers hurts him there.
KS is wondering if McFadden will be a great running back or just an adequate running back as a lot of backs coming out with the all the hype he has been receiving seem to become.  See Dayne, Benson and some others.

yea if hes a second round pick I would wait and hope Rutgers would be better next year and that he might move up a few notches.

The big issue is that his Mom/family probably don't make enough money for an adequate insurance policy  that a lot of NFL quality juniors coming back for a senior year buy.

[superman57]

I feel that running backs in the first round are either going to be huge success or huge busts...but if you look at their career numbers you can call it easier....


Look at Adrian Peterson, I could of told you he was going to be a star in the NFL because he played big his first day at OU and always put up huge numbers...

I also called Reggie Bush being a bust... Bush is one of those guys that is flashy but can not hold up as a feature back...


For Every Ronnie Brown you also have a Rashard Salam

[superman57]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

[JT]

How many LLPP'ers think that they edited out the few smart people that realized it was some kind of stoopid promotion? 

http://www.whopperfreakout.com/

[union89]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

[union89]

Right now Rice is projected as a second round pick according to the experts.  He had a 2000 yard season this year, and is already the best running back in Rutgers history. ks thinks he would receive Heisman consideration if he comes back. KS just thinks his two biggest incentives coming back will be the chance to break Ron Daynes record and the chance to try to win the Heisman.  KS thinks playing for Rutgers hurts him there.
KS is wondering if McFadden will be a great running back or just an adequate running back as a lot of backs coming out with the all the hype he has been receiving seem to become.  See Dayne, Benson and some others.

yea if hes a second round pick I would wait and hope Rutgers would be better next year and that he might move up a few notches.

The big issue is that his Mom/family probably don't make enough money for an adequate insurance policy  that a lot of NFL quality juniors coming back for a senior year buy.

U89 hopes that Ray Rice comes out if for no other reason than to not have to see his mom every game 'clowning' herself with a Rutgers helmet on her head and a bunch of giant rings around her neck.  U89 understands being proud of your sons accomplishments, but come on, she looks like she may need some professional help.

[superman57]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

but how is that different than a qb draw or a running back pass...one or two times a game it could make for some big gains...right?

[union89]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

but how is that different than a qb draw or a running back pass...one or two times a game it could make for some big gains...right?

IMO, the option is tough to run only a couple times....all based off of timing and separation.  U89 thinks that running it only 2 or 3 times a game could be a mess.....U89 could be wrong, it's happened once before.

[Knightstalker]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

but how is that different than a qb draw or a running back pass...one or two times a game it could make for some big gains...right?

Injury and KS thinks that the pitch at the pro level is too dangerous, too much speed on the outside on defense.

That said, some teams actually do run a couple of option type plays.  Usually it is someone like Randle-El coming in to run it though and not the regular quarterback.

[superman57]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

but how is that different than a qb draw or a running back pass...one or two times a game it could make for some big gains...right?

IMO, the option is tough to run only a couple times....all based off of timing and separation.  U89 thinks that running it only 2 or 3 times a game could be a mess.....U89 could be wrong, it's happened once before.

but can't all trick plays become messy...I mean come on running backs are not meant to throw the ball...but it makes for some big plays... So if you were to work on it as a trick play and throw it in  their a handful of times...

[Jonny Utah]

Right now Rice is projected as a second round pick according to the experts.  He had a 2000 yard season this year, and is already the best running back in Rutgers history. ks thinks he would receive Heisman consideration if he comes back. KS just thinks his two biggest incentives coming back will be the chance to break Ron Daynes record and the chance to try to win the Heisman.  KS thinks playing for Rutgers hurts him there.
KS is wondering if McFadden will be a great running back or just an adequate running back as a lot of backs coming out with the all the hype he has been receiving seem to become.  See Dayne, Benson and some others.

yea if hes a second round pick I would wait and hope Rutgers would be better next year and that he might move up a few notches.

The big issue is that his Mom/family probably don't make enough money for an adequate insurance policy  that a lot of NFL quality juniors coming back for a senior year buy.

Yea but a top 10 pick is guarenteed tens of millions of dollars.  A second rounder maybe a few hundred thousand...

[Jonny Utah]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

but how is that different than a qb draw or a running back pass...one or two times a game it could make for some big gains...right?

IMO, the option is tough to run only a couple times....all based off of timing and separation.  U89 thinks that running it only 2 or 3 times a game could be a mess.....U89 could be wrong, it's happened once before.

but can't all trick plays become messy...I mean come on running backs are not meant to throw the ball...but it makes for some big plays... So if you were to work on it as a trick play and throw it in  their a handful of times...

Yea as KS mentioned, defensive speed is the #1 reason the option is not run.  You can run it once a game to suprise a team sure, but after that, the OLBs can cover two guys at once easily.

[superman57]

would anyone like to explain to me, why NFL teams don't try some option runs... I have always wondered this question. I understand that you couldn't base an offense around it because it would not be successful due to the speed of the NFL game, but why not if you have Vince Young like player to throw in an option play or two

Jonny that's what I thought...but why don't you see vince young pulling out an option run on 2nd and 4 in the 2nd quater

U89 would guess that injuries would be the main factor here.

but how is that different than a qb draw or a running back pass...one or two times a game it could make for some big gains...right?

IMO, the option is tough to run only a couple times....all based off of timing and separation.  U89 thinks that running it only 2 or 3 times a game could be a mess.....U89 could be wrong, it's happened once before.

but can't all trick plays become messy...I mean come on running backs are not meant to throw the ball...but it makes for some big plays... So if you were to work on it as a trick play and throw it in  their a handful of times...

Yea as KS mentioned, defensive speed is the #1 reason the option is not run.  You can run it once a game to suprise a team sure, but after that, the OLBs can cover two guys at once easily.

[superman57]

so superman was watching American gladiators and he saw frank rossi's fiancee