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[Naked Nott Run]

The Rev is beside himself with anger and frustration.

First, my apologies to Union fans, but this is the worst team I have ever seen come out of your school.  #10 is the most amazing athlete, and everyother kid on that field should thank him for the honor of playing with him, and maybe offer to clean his dorm room or polish his shoes.

Second, The Rev is currently considering mass murder.  If every Statesman player and coach would die slowly and painfully from huge gaping gunshot wounds, the Rev's day would be better.  Who the "F" goes for field goals when you are 4 and 1?  and who let that d-bag miss three field goal in one half without him getting a set of cleats up his yin-yang?

Third, Just like last year RPI ran the same play up and down the field and Hobart was helpless, Union did that in the second half with #10.  Union was virtually powerless against short passes to #5, so what did Hobart do?  Try to run it up the middle with #23, who was completely shutdown by Union D.  Hey, guys, I have an idea! Let's run plays that fail, and when we find plays that work, let's not use those.  Let's keep those "secret weapons" just for when we are in a jam.  So run it up the middle even though  you've been stuffed all day.  Seriously, whoever called plays for Hobart today needs to take my donation to the SAA and use it to help fund his suicide.

The Rev takes this very personally.  He spends a lot of moola to fly from AZ to NY, it is very time consuming, and all night The Rev was getting squished by a fat guy with armpit odor.  This is the FOURTH year in a row that Hobart has lost when The Rev goes out of his way to show up for games.  The Rev is tired of being let down.  Does this mean the Rev ought only to go to games against USMMA?  Lame.

Seriously, The Rev is so angry now.  Hobart should have blown the doors off of Union in the first half, but instead handed them the keys to the Boz.  The Rev should have burnt it down so no other fans will have to witness the disgrace the Rev saw today.  Hey, at least we'll have turf.  I wonder if out shi**y performance will leave skid marks.

The Rev is so P.O.'d right now that he hopes Hobart can't even get into the ECACs.

Debate Moderator:  Mr. Rossi, would you like to respond?

Mr. Rossi:  Why yes.  First, I'd like to say hi to all the 3rd grade students at Greenwood Elementary School for watching this debate -- extra credit for all of you!  Now, let me tell you about a true MAVERICK -- no, not John McCain, but the Union College Fighting Dutchmen football team.  You see, candidates like the Rev will have you believe that the Dutchmen did not win the game -- but that the Statesmen lost the game.  Well, I'd beg to differ with the Rev's position, as Hobart had the ball in the Union red zone, sometimes based on Union mistakes, six times in the first half.  Now, the Rev forgets in his analysis that somebody had to stop Hobart from scoring touchdowns in four of those occasions.  Yes, missed field goals were not positives for Hobart, but Union's defense did a lot of work, including with a goalline stand.  To ignore that Union's defense helped keep Union in the game in the first half would be like advocating a position short of full energy independence for our country.

Debate Moderator:  Your time is up Mr. Rossi...

Mr. Rossi:  I just have one more point to make -- while the Dutchmen team in 2008 may not be its strongest at its surface currently -- it's been improving week to week noticably.  I made that point last week, as I said the Dutchmen were two plays short of being 3-1 (now 4-1).  Today, they worked to make sure the odd bounces went their way -- so, Rev, I hope that you'll adopt a policy of CHANGE -- and CHANGE your view that Union didn't win the game short of Coney's effort.  As Coach Audino said in our postgame today, "We became a team today."  The defense and the offense worked at different points of the game to ensure that.  Yes, they both still need much improvement, but Rome wasn't built in a day.  God bless America, and congrats to the Dutchmen.

Debate Moderator:  Thank you, Mr. Rossi.  Rev, any rebuttal?

FRANK MAKES NNR LAUGH... Rev..really??? You lost to a team who doesn't deserve to play football except for 1 player... Sad little man

and NNR must point out #10 Chris "ice cream" Coney is a Florida boy... We breathe, eat and sleep football... woooo... Union does a great job of recruiting outside the North.

[pumkinattack]

I was very frustrated too, but that was mitigated when I went to a dinner I had to dress up for and the starters at the bar were pork rinds, three types of bacon, beef jerkey, braised spare ribs and wagyu beef sliders. 

Union deserves all the credit and Hobart had this coming.  They haven't played a complete game all year and a decent team was going to do this to them.  Oddly enough, Bart's best game was a vs. Susquehanna, where they largely bottled up Paveletz (who had 288 yards yesterday) and won pretty easily (SU's last TD came with a minute or so left in the game) and ye even then they had 11 penalties.  In many ways it was better to do it now than vs. RPI since, in many respects this only severely diminshes the opportunity for a pool C bid with another loss. 

Play calling was terrible, special teams was garbage (punting, place kicking, ko coverage - which has always been a strength) and the players didn't perform.  Especially on the line.  There is a lot of returning talent on both sides of the line (4 starters on O and Aruck, Faracca and Lovell on D) and they didn't show up today. 

Truth is Bart hasn't had a running game since Blakowski graduated.  Marlier was supposed to be pretty good (transferring from a scholarship program), but I think DeWall (who likes to out-think everyone) has fallen to in love with the passing game, especially with a mobile Strom last year, and they've failed to develop a running game since '06.  Look at the back up QB, Vella a FR from Chaminade, who looks like a Strom redux instead of a Mizro/Swanson type.  You can see the direction the offense is taking.  He's turing it into Purdue/Texas Tech with soft lineman. 

[union89]

The Rev is beside himself with anger and frustration.

First, my apologies to Union fans, but this is the worst team I have ever seen come out of your school.  #10 is the most amazing athlete, and everyother kid on that field should thank him for the honor of playing with him, and maybe offer to clean his dorm room or polish his shoes.

Second, The Rev is currently considering mass murder.  If every Statesman player and coach would die slowly and painfully from huge gaping gunshot wounds, the Rev's day would be better.  Who the "F" goes for field goals when you are 4 and 1?  and who let that d-bag miss three field goal in one half without him getting a set of cleats up his yin-yang?

Third, Just like last year RPI ran the same play up and down the field and Hobart was helpless, Union did that in the second half with #10.  Union was virtually powerless against short passes to #5, so what did Hobart do?  Try to run it up the middle with #23, who was completely shutdown by Union D.  Hey, guys, I have an idea! Let's run plays that fail, and when we find plays that work, let's not use those.  Let's keep those "secret weapons" just for when we are in a jam.  So run it up the middle even though  you've been stuffed all day.  Seriously, whoever called plays for Hobart today needs to take my donation to the SAA and use it to help fund his suicide.

The Rev takes this very personally.  He spends a lot of moola to fly from AZ to NY, it is very time consuming, and all night The Rev was getting squished by a fat guy with armpit odor.  This is the FOURTH year in a row that Hobart has lost when The Rev goes out of his way to show up for games.  The Rev is tired of being let down.  Does this mean the Rev ought only to go to games against USMMA?  Lame.

Seriously, The Rev is so angry now.  Hobart should have blown the doors off of Union in the first half, but instead handed them the keys to the Boz.  The Rev should have burnt it down so no other fans will have to witness the disgrace the Rev saw today.  Hey, at least we'll have turf.  I wonder if out shi**y performance will leave skid marks.

The Rev is so P.O.'d right now that he hopes Hobart can't even get into the ECACs.

The Rev. is not using U89's ghost writer from last week....

[union89]

As the Rev. observed, U89 thinks Coney needed to be used to this level (250 yards rushing) to get the most out of this team.

Another very under appreciated player on this team is RT, #78, Tony Morello.  U89 keyed on him on a number of plays vs. both Muhlenburg & WPI.....that kid consistently dominates the guy across from him and enables Coney to do his thing.

[UnionDad]

Union's OL dominated the LOS.  Morello was last year's MVP on offense, an honor rarely given to a lineman.   I had to listen to the game from the Hobart announcers perspective.  They were constantly moaning about the huge holes being opened by the Union OL.   Coney was able to get into space and use his speed and tackle-breaking to make some uge plays.  I think Union may have found its identity on offense.  They are a smash-mouth running team, not the pass-happy finesse team of the last few years,

Union still needs to shore up the pass D and STs which have been their achilles heel in the early part of the season

[pumkinattack]

That's interesting because Aruck, one of Bart's DT's, is a four year starter and just under 300lbs.  It was hard to see if it was him or Faracca (the other starting DT, although they do a fair bit of subbing on the line), but one of the DT's was getting crushed in the second half and creating big holes on every other run.  In the first half, Coney had one big run of 50 yards late in the half, but otherwise was shut down to that point (I think all his other first half runs gained like 20 yards).  They seemed to try to run more stretch and outside runs in the first half, which was probably what they had seen on film (Dickinson, CMU, SU) as having more success whereas up to this point teams weren't getting much up the middle.   Oddly enough, the OLB's held up pretty well and the interior got violated, a complete reversal of this season to date for Bart.  

Coney did run tough as well breaking a number of tackles in the second half, which is typically a combination of the RB continuing to move his feet and poor tackling.  What year is Morello?  

I think Union knows what it has to do the rest of the season to finish strong.  They still need to tighten up their D having given up 35 pts with four red zone misses (as well as allowing a somewhat offensively challenged UofR to put up 29).  Hobart has a lot of things to fix, but can still win the league.  They hadn't lost a regular season game in a year and actually played much better after going down 1 - 2 to start last season, so that's the only hope.  I don't know how you fix the kicking game though.  1 for 6 on the season with the make at 28 yards and two missed XP's is a tough problem to fix when your backup is also a FR.  

[UnionDad]

Morello is a senior.  Unanimous All Liberty League selection and a spot on the D-3 all region team.

[Frank Rossi]

Union's OL dominated the LOS.  Morello was last year's MVP on offense, an honor rarely given to a lineman.   I had to listen to the game from the Hobart announcers perspective.  They were constantly moaning about the huge holes being opened by the Union OL.   Coney was able to get into space and use his speed and tackle-breaking to make some uge plays.  I think Union may have found its identity on offense.  They are a smash-mouth running team, not the pass-happy finesse team of the last few years,

Union still needs to shore up the pass D and STs which have been their achilles heel in the early part of the season

Out of curiosity, why were you listening to the Hobart broadcast?  There are 200 ways to listen to the Union broadcast, including via smartphone and cell phone.  (No offense to Ted Baker, the Play-by-Play voice for Hobart -- he's the class of our League, but it sounds like you would've preferred the Union perspective).

[pumkinattack]

Just one more thing on this game and then most of my focus will be on Bart winning out.  The catch made in the endzone before halftime was a spectacular play (they should go to him more) as he was covered on a jump ball in the back of the endzone.  I still think it should never have gotten there because giving up 15 yards on a 3rd down draw is inexcusable (at the 50 with 40 second left before half no less), but the catch was great. 

For the rest of the league, I think its significant that Susquehanna is 3 - 3 with 2 LL wins and WPI won a LL game (looking at the box score they really dominated MM more than the score indicates) and is 5 -1.  Nobody from RPI/Union/Bart really wants parity at their expense, but it really is a good thing long term.  Especially if it raises exposure in MA and PA for all of the schools. 

[mattvsmith]

Rev..really??? You lost to a team who doesn't deserve to play football except for 1 player...

Perhaps it is unfair to say only one player was decent.  But it's not unfair to say that this is certainly not the Union Dutchmen of yore.

Some years the Rev is not mad about losing to Union.  The Rev doesn't get angry when Hobart loses to a clearly better team, that's part of life.  But Hobart had no business handing the Dutchmen the game on a platter.  The Rev has seen better play calling on the Mattel Intellivision football game.   

So the Rev isn't mad at Union, and perhaps the Rev shouldn't insult them.  They are probably nice kids.  This is why the Rev refuses to blame the loss on the bad pass interference call at the end of the game as some Hobart fans around him were doing.  No, by that point, Hobart had already lost the game in every way except the score and deserved to lose it.
Was it the absolutely urine-soaked punt when Hobart was 4 and change in the fourth quarter?  You know, the punt that went about 15 yards and was returned for about 25? (The real numbers escape The Rev, but you get the point...it was pathetic.)
Or perhaps the losing moment was the kick-off that a Dutchman mishandled and instead of getting creamed by a pumkinhead, the Statesmen slowed down to watch what might happen next (which just happened to be that Dutchman recovering his ball-handling skills and then he displayed his ability to run north-south with ease against a bunch of guys standing around watching.)  Note to Statesmen: play 'til the whistle is blown by the fat guy in the funny striped shirt.

"Hey, Dutchmen, here's this oblong shaped piece of inflated pig-skin.  No, we don't know what to do with it this close to the endzone.  You...yes, you...take it and run with it.  We'll be wandering around the field aimlessly pretending to make hits, but not really committing to anything.  Would you like us to step aside for you so you can cream our running back?  Thank you."

No matter, The Rev is in full-tilt rant mode and it is going to take The Rev about a season to recover.  Next year The Rev will swear-off going back east for a game, but will find the draw of Hobart playing RPI at home irresistible, as if The Rev has been pre-ordained for an annual heartrending disappointment.

It's enough to make The Rev a Calvinist.  This is infuriating.

[Senor RedTackle]

As the Rev. observed, U89 thinks Coney needed to be used to this level (250 yards rushing) to get the most out of this team.

Another very under appreciated player on this team is RT

has someone stolen my identity?

[Senor RedTackle]

Union's OL dominated the LOS.  Morello was last year's MVP on offense, an honor rarely given to a lineman.   I had to listen to the game from the Hobart announcers perspective.  They were constantly moaning about the huge holes being opened by the Union OL.   Coney was able to get into space and use his speed and tackle-breaking to make some uge plays.  I think Union may have found its identity on offense.  They are a smash-mouth running team, not the pass-happy finesse team of the last few years,

Union still needs to shore up the pass D and STs which have been their achilles heel in the early part of the season

Out of curiosity, why were you listening to the Hobart broadcast?  There are 200 ways to listen to the Union broadcast, including via smartphone and cell phone.  (No offense to Ted Baker, the Play-by-Play voice for Hobart -- he's the class of our League, but it sounds like you would've preferred the Union perspective).

now THIS is a first for RT....radio guys asking individual fans why they didn't listen to a particular broadcast...LOL

[UnionDad]

"Out of curiosity, why were you listening to the Hobart broadcast?  There are 200 ways to listen to the Union broadcast, including via smartphone and cell phone.  (No offense to Ted Baker, the Play-by-Play voice for Hobart -- he's the class of our League, but it sounds like you would've preferred the Union perspective)."


Link to WABY didn't work

TEAMLINE link took me to Hobart site and radio link

[Findtheball]

Plus he was just curious, thats all, right Frank

[dlippiel]

Morello is a senior.  Unanimous All Liberty League selection and a spot on the D-3 all region team.

Morello is nasty! All I can hear is him yelling "UNION" before each game like he does. Solid game Anthony!