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[redswarm81]

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One player admits he doesn't know how his team felt.  He admits he felt weird, he doesn't say anything like he didn't want to win.

Does that mean that there are teams that don't want to win as much as their opponents want to win?

Union used to have player votes on the willingness of guys to play in an ECAC game in the event that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  Many underclassmen would routinely vote to not participate in the ECAC version.

They weren't starters, were they?

[Frank Rossi]

I think JU still has credibility when it comes to this issue: his personal feelings.

His personal feelings are that Ithaca is the bestest team in the whole wide world.  You going to stick with that theory?

[union89]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

[Frank Rossi]

How the hell did we get the lead back from the E8?!  Oh, wait...

[Frank Rossi]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

Wrong again.  I've discussed this with people inside the program already.  While I'm not sure what the AD thinks right now, I know that everyone else around the program, including players and coaches, is psyched about the chance of playing in such a game.  And, no, this is not based just on conversations with Coach Audino, in order to short-circuit your knee-jerk reaction.

[union89]

Scroll up one post for an example.

One player admits he doesn't know how his team felt.  He admits he felt weird, he doesn't say anything like he didn't want to win.

Does that mean that there are teams that don't want to win as much as their opponents want to win?

Union used to have player votes on the willingness of guys to play in an ECAC game in the event that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  Many underclassmen would routinely vote to not participate in the ECAC version.

They weren't starters, were they?

One was our starting tailback.....fights almost broke out.

[Frank Rossi]

Scroll up one post for an example.

One player admits he doesn't know how his team felt.  He admits he felt weird, he doesn't say anything like he didn't want to win.

Does that mean that there are teams that don't want to win as much as their opponents want to win?

Union used to have player votes on the willingness of guys to play in an ECAC game in the event that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  Many underclassmen would routinely vote to not participate in the ECAC version.

They weren't starters, were they?

One was our starting tailback.....fights almost broke out.

Hard to believe a fight almost broke out around you 

[union89]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

Wrong again.  I've discussed this with people inside the program already.  While I'm not sure what the AD thinks right now, I know that everyone else around the program, including players and coaches, is psyched about the chance of playing in such a game.  And, no, this is not based just on conversations with Coach Audino, in order to short-circuit your knee-jerk reaction.

Dude, if that's the case, I would love to see them get another win....I just look at it as a letdown situation.

[union89]

Scroll up one post for an example.

One player admits he doesn't know how his team felt.  He admits he felt weird, he doesn't say anything like he didn't want to win.

Does that mean that there are teams that don't want to win as much as their opponents want to win?

Union used to have player votes on the willingness of guys to play in an ECAC game in the event that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  Many underclassmen would routinely vote to not participate in the ECAC version.

They weren't starters, were they?

One was our starting tailback.....fights almost broke out.

Hard to believe a fight almost broke out around you 

And who's baiting who into an arguement??

[redswarm81]

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One player admits he doesn't know how his team felt.  He admits he felt weird, he doesn't say anything like he didn't want to win.

Does that mean that there are teams that don't want to win as much as their opponents want to win?

Wow, what a wuss.  Even in losing seasons I'd rather play an extra game than clean out my locker.

Union used to have player votes on the willingness of guys to play in an ECAC game in the event that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  Many underclassmen would routinely vote to not participate in the ECAC version.

They weren't starters, were they?

One was our starting tailback.....fights almost broke out.

[Frank Rossi]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

Wrong again.  I've discussed this with people inside the program already.  While I'm not sure what the AD thinks right now, I know that everyone else around the program, including players and coaches, is psyched about the chance of playing in such a game.  And, no, this is not based just on conversations with Coach Audino, in order to short-circuit your knee-jerk reaction.

Dude, if that's the case, I would love to see them get another win....I just look at it as a letdown situation.

A letdown how?  It's a chance for some exposure -- to test themselves against a decent team (not NCAA-quality, but a team they might not otherwise get to face based on scheduling) -- and to allow for some New England recruiting.  It helps the program and the youth of these players this year.  There are a lot of reasons to play that game if they're lucky enough to get to that point, and it seems like the players and coaches recognize that fact already.

I'm just so tired of the negativity lately, 89, especially when these players have shaken that negativity and have begun digging themselves out of holes and learning their lessons.  They realize they aren't the 1989 or 1993 or 2005 Dutchmen yet.  However, they're striving to BECOME something close to them in future days if they can.  They understand the history and tradition -- it's not going to happen overnight, but applaud the fact that they're working hard to make it happen if it's possible.  That's why I wasn't really that upset after the WPI game -- it just felt like they were beginning to turn a corner, even in a loss.  They deserve the opportunity to play in such a game if they earn such a right -- don't be the consumate nay-sayer all the time when you're supposed to be a Union fan.  

[Frank Rossi]

Scroll up one post for an example.

One player admits he doesn't know how his team felt.  He admits he felt weird, he doesn't say anything like he didn't want to win.

Does that mean that there are teams that don't want to win as much as their opponents want to win?

Union used to have player votes on the willingness of guys to play in an ECAC game in the event that we didn't get an NCAA bid.  Many underclassmen would routinely vote to not participate in the ECAC version.

They weren't starters, were they?

One was our starting tailback.....fights almost broke out.

Hard to believe a fight almost broke out around you 

And who's baiting who into an arguement??

'twas a joke, MH89.  'twas a joke. 

[redswarm81]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

Wrong again.  I've discussed this with people inside the program already.  While I'm not sure what the AD thinks right now, I know that everyone else around the program, including players and coaches, is psyched about the chance of playing in such a game.  And, no, this is not based just on conversations with Coach Audino, in order to short-circuit your knee-jerk reaction.

Dude, if that's the case, I would love to see them get another win....I just look at it as a letdown situation.

A letdown how?  It's a chance for some exposure -- to test themselves against a decent team (not NCAA-quality, but a team they might not otherwise get to face based on scheduling) -- and to allow for some New England recruiting.  It helps the program and the youth of these players this year.  There are a lot of reasons to play that game if they're lucky enough to get to that point, and it seems like the players and coaches recognize that fact already.

I'm just so tired of the negativity lately, 89, especially when these players have shaken that negativity and have begun digging themselves out of holes and learning their lessons.  They realize they aren't the 1989 or 1993 or 2005 Dutchmen yet.  However, they're striving to BECOME something close to them in future days if they can.  They understand the history and tradition -- it's not going to happen overnight, but applaud the fact that they're working hard to make it happen if it's possible.  That's why I wasn't really that upset after the WPI game -- it just felt like they were beginning to turn a corner, even in a loss.  They deserve the opportunity to play in such a game if they earn such a right -- don't be the consumate nay-sayer all the time when you're supposed to be a Union fan. 

Perhaps Union should refuse to play in the post season if an alumnus thinks that the team might lose or suffer a letdown.     [/end sarcasm]

Despite your efforts to convince me otherwise, I remain skeptical that any team wants to win less than its opponents.

[Frank Rossi]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

Wrong again.  I've discussed this with people inside the program already.  While I'm not sure what the AD thinks right now, I know that everyone else around the program, including players and coaches, is psyched about the chance of playing in such a game.  And, no, this is not based just on conversations with Coach Audino, in order to short-circuit your knee-jerk reaction.

Dude, if that's the case, I would love to see them get another win....I just look at it as a letdown situation.

A letdown how?  It's a chance for some exposure -- to test themselves against a decent team (not NCAA-quality, but a team they might not otherwise get to face based on scheduling) -- and to allow for some New England recruiting.  It helps the program and the youth of these players this year.  There are a lot of reasons to play that game if they're lucky enough to get to that point, and it seems like the players and coaches recognize that fact already.

I'm just so tired of the negativity lately, 89, especially when these players have shaken that negativity and have begun digging themselves out of holes and learning their lessons.  They realize they aren't the 1989 or 1993 or 2005 Dutchmen yet.  However, they're striving to BECOME something close to them in future days if they can.  They understand the history and tradition -- it's not going to happen overnight, but applaud the fact that they're working hard to make it happen if it's possible.  That's why I wasn't really that upset after the WPI game -- it just felt like they were beginning to turn a corner, even in a loss.  They deserve the opportunity to play in such a game if they earn such a right -- don't be the consumate nay-sayer all the time when you're supposed to be a Union fan. 

Perhaps Union should refuse to play in the post season if an alumnus thinks that the team might lose or suffer a letdown.     [/end sarcasm]

Despite your efforts to convince me otherwise, I remain skeptical that any team wants to win less than its opponents.

Why branch that off my response??  I'm not the one suggesting what you stated.  I actually agree with you.

[union89]

I couldn't care less about ECAC games. They don't prove one thing to me. You never know who's coming to play and who's coming to mail it in.

Agreed........

So that's a reason not to play the game?  You could end up with some very high-profile matchups this year, relative to most years.  For instance, Union-Curry would be a possibility under current conditions.  That's a very compelling matchup that both teams would likely both show up to play.

As a Union fan I don't really want that game.....I could easily see Union coming out flat and uninterested while Curry would be pumped up for a second big regional win in as many years.

Wrong again.  I've discussed this with people inside the program already.  While I'm not sure what the AD thinks right now, I know that everyone else around the program, including players and coaches, is psyched about the chance of playing in such a game.  And, no, this is not based just on conversations with Coach Audino, in order to short-circuit your knee-jerk reaction.

Dude, if that's the case, I would love to see them get another win....I just look at it as a letdown situation.

A letdown how?  It's a chance for some exposure -- to test themselves against a decent team (not NCAA-quality, but a team they might not otherwise get to face based on scheduling) -- and to allow for some New England recruiting.  It helps the program and the youth of these players this year.  There are a lot of reasons to play that game if they're lucky enough to get to that point, and it seems like the players and coaches recognize that fact already.

I'm just so tired of the negativity lately, 89, especially when these players have shaken that negativity and have begun digging themselves out of holes and learning their lessons.  They realize they aren't the 1989 or 1993 or 2005 Dutchmen yet.  However, they're striving to BECOME something close to them in future days if they can.  They understand the history and tradition -- it's not going to happen overnight, but applaud the fact that they're working hard to make it happen if it's possible.  That's why I wasn't really that upset after the WPI game -- it just felt like they were beginning to turn a corner, even in a loss.  They deserve the opportunity to play in such a game if they earn such a right -- don't be the consumate nay-sayer all the time when you're supposed to be a Union fan.  

Dude, stop being such a clown.....where have I been negative here?  This is just you saying I'm negative and trying to stur up crap.  I try to give you the benefit of the doubt and let bygones be bygones, but you can't help yourself to start stuff up again.