FB: Liberty League

[Jonny Utah]

Hey, if I'm coach, I'll kick the guy off the team.  But I'll also kick the guy off the team who can't keep it together when someone says a bad word to him in the fourth quarter.

Sticks and stones, for God's sake.  They're words.  They're just words.  Where's George Carlin when we need him?

Thats why you do what you do Redswarm and why guys like Audino and King do what they do.

What do you mean?  King and Audino don't kick hopeless loser a**h*les off the team?

Im saying things get heated, push comes to shove, mistakes are made, people shake hands and apologize, and we move onto the next game. 

So it's okay then.  No need to worry about who's more classless than whom.  Got it.

No Im just saying that sometimes things become a he said/she said and pushing the issue gets you nowhere. 

My football team in high school was probably half white/half black.  The other 9 teams in our league were 99% white.  A few times a season some racial stuff would get thrown at us and many times we would fight back with words and in cheap stuff. In many other of those instances at the end of the game apologies would be made, and hands would be shaken.

Of course racial slurs and crap like that cannot be tolerated on or off the field.  Its not always right to throw someone of the team though if the are accused of something they might not have even done or if they play a dirty.  Its just not an easy thing to deal with that all Im saying and that sometimes its just better to move on.

[redswarm81]

Inspired by the Bart-WPI and RPI-Union games, TGP dragged the kids out of the house this afternoon and caught some West Coast D3 ball up the 101 fwy about 20 miles from the Pumpkin Patch (although with the overcast skies, cool temps and occasional drizzle, you might have thought it was an east region game).

#20 Oxy beat Cal Lu 24-21 in a great back and forth game.  CLU jumped out to an early lead after making a couple of INTs, but Oxy fought back to make it 21-16 at the half.  Oxy's d came up with 2 safeties in the game.

Great football game - TGP had to "listen" to the final minutes b/c the kids had seen enough (there is only so much cajoling you can do with a 4 and 2 year old), but was behind the grandstand over on the grass by the swingset (hey, being a dad you have to be creative sometimes).

Caught the final few plays from the car b/f and during the rain dumping down.  The ending was unbelievable.  Oxy goes up on a FG late, then the team's traded possessions b/f CLU drives down the field and get the ball inside the Oxy 10 yard line with a few ticks on the clock.

Right then, the sky dumps sheets and sheets of rain onto the field as the CLU kicker comes out to push the game into OT.  To the joy of the Oxy and the dismay of the CLU fans, the CLU kicker shanked the kick (although not a big surprise given the down pour).

Great win for Oxy - crusher for CLU.

The win pretty much puts Oxy in the driver seat to win the SCIAC and its Pool A bid.  Given a couple of losses in the Top 20 by other teams today, TGP wouldn't be surprised if they moved into the Top 15.

Man, can I ever relate to the dad v. football fan dilemma, and creative solutions crafted on the fly.  I managed to get my then 10 and 8 y.o. kids through the first half of a Dutchman's Shoes game by bringing an honest-to-goodness US Military Issue MRE for them to open and prepare behind the end zone at halftime.

What I can't relate to is rain in Thousand Oaks.

[Regulator]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

[labart96]

Inspired by the Bart-WPI and RPI-Union games, TGP dragged the kids out of the house this afternoon and caught some West Coast D3 ball up the 101 fwy about 20 miles from the Pumpkin Patch (although with the overcast skies, cool temps and occasional drizzle, you might have thought it was an east region game).

#20 Oxy beat Cal Lu 24-21 in a great back and forth game.  CLU jumped out to an early lead after making a couple of INTs, but Oxy fought back to make it 21-16 at the half.  Oxy's d came up with 2 safeties in the game.

Great football game - TGP had to "listen" to the final minutes b/c the kids had seen enough (there is only so much cajoling you can do with a 4 and 2 year old), but was behind the grandstand over on the grass by the swingset (hey, being a dad you have to be creative sometimes).

Caught the final few plays from the car b/f and during the rain dumping down.  The ending was unbelievable.  Oxy goes up on a FG late, then the team's traded possessions b/f CLU drives down the field and get the ball inside the Oxy 10 yard line with a few ticks on the clock.

Right then, the sky dumps sheets and sheets of rain onto the field as the CLU kicker comes out to push the game into OT.  To the joy of the Oxy and the dismay of the CLU fans, the CLU kicker shanked the kick (although not a big surprise given the down pour).

Great win for Oxy - crusher for CLU.

The win pretty much puts Oxy in the driver seat to win the SCIAC and its Pool A bid.  Given a couple of losses in the Top 20 by other teams today, TGP wouldn't be surprised if they moved into the Top 15.

Man, can I ever relate to the dad v. football fan dilemma, and creative solutions crafted on the fly.  I managed to get my then 10 and 8 y.o. kids through the first half of a Dutchman's Shoes game by bringing an honest-to-goodness US Military Issue MRE for them to open and prepare behind the end zone at halftime.

What I can't relate to is rain in Thousand Oaks.

yeah - rain - especially that heavy - is pretty unusual this time of year.

tgp also had an ace up his sleeve in that tgp didn't let the kids have any candy last night during/after trick or treating so tgp had a steady stream mini-twix, snickers and m&m's to buy time at the game.

[rams1102]

Nice job RPI.  JT's second favorite DIII football team.

I thought it was Montclair.
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Outside of Sam Mills and Vinny DeMarinis, Montclair St. is dead to me.

I hope we can come alive on Saturday in "Sam's House".

Sam is one of my hero's and Vinny is from the neighborhood however,  the Red Hawks are going down on 11/8.

Let's take this to the NJAC Board. We could sure use some activity there.

[Reno Hightower]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

im sure hes not too much in the doghouse. like i said late hits get called in almost every football game!

Unions kickers however.......

[dewcrew88]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

im sure hes not too much in the doghouse. like i said late hits get called in almost every football game!

Unions kickers however.......

I feel horribly for Ben Rapple, the Union kicker. He looked so disgusted with himself after he came off the field onto the Union bench...

[redswarm81]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

im sure hes not too much in the doghouse. like i said late hits get called in almost every football game!

Unions kickers however.......

I feel horribly for Ben Rapple, the Union kicker. He looked so disgusted with himself after he came off the field onto the Union bench...

Hey Jimmy Olsen, Superman's Friend!  Was the game anything like you expected?  You did a lot of pregame research on it.

[dlippiel]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

im sure hes not too much in the doghouse. like i said late hits get called in almost every football game!

Unions kickers however.......

I feel horribly for Ben Rapple, the Union kicker. He looked so disgusted with himself after he came off the field onto the Union bench...

I do to, I mean it is not like any of the players would ever consciously do anything to hurt the team, Rapple included. I feel for him and don't believe he alone is to blame. I give him credit for working hard to improve and continuing to battle each week. Hopefully some things will begin to go his way. Yet overall as I stated in a previous post the special teams play is just so poor and is really deflating this team time and again. I really believe special teams is the "bridge to momentum" and when a team struggles with special teams they allow the other team to take control of that bridge. As a die hard Dutch fan I am very disappointed with the special teams play and that does include the kicking game.  I stand behind Rapple, and Eppely and believe they will continue to improve. Something though has to happen to help this area of the team become more consistent and successful.

[dlippiel]

As a former athlete I can understand how during the heat of the game the RPI player was wound up but if he did indeed say what he said: 1.) He deserves to get his ignorant ass kicked and I am glad he got jacked up. 2.) His ass should be removed from the team ASAP. RPI is to damn good of a school to have an ignorant asshole like that representing it on the field. I would like to see how some of the African American players on RPI would feel about their teammates commment. He is a tool and their is no place for that in this game or any other.

[JT]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

im sure hes not too much in the doghouse. like i said late hits get called in almost every football game!

Unions kickers however.......

I feel horribly for Ben Rapple, the Union kicker. He looked so disgusted with himself after he came off the field onto the Union bench...

Hey Jimmy Olsen, Superman's Friend!  Was the game anything like you expected?  You did a lot of pregame research on it.

+k

[redswarm81]

As a former athlete I can understand how during the heat of the game the RPI player was wound up but if he did indeed say what he said: 1.) He deserves to get his ignorant ass kicked and I am glad he got jacked up. 2.) His ass should be removed from the team ASAP. RPI is to damn good of a school to have an ignorant asshole like that representing it on the field. I would like to see how some of the African American players on RPI would feel about their teammates commment. He is a tool and their is no place for that in this game or any other.

Following Reg's line of thinking, what if during the heat of the game the Union player was wound up and threw a cheap shot, then lied to try and make it seem legit?

Shouldn't he be thrown off his team?

Here's another question no one seems to want to ask:  What if in the heat of the game the RPI player said what he's accused of saying, and the Union player just said "shut up, you ignorant a**h*le?"

[Jonny Utah]

Looks like its going to be another year in d1 where a playoff system would have been ideal.  Someone is going to get screwed out of that title game this year.

[Reno Hightower]

As a former athlete I can understand how during the heat of the game the RPI player was wound up but if he did indeed say what he said: 1.) He deserves to get his ignorant ass kicked and I am glad he got jacked up. 2.) His ass should be removed from the team ASAP. RPI is to damn good of a school to have an ignorant asshole like that representing it on the field. I would like to see how some of the African American players on RPI would feel about their teammates commment. He is a tool and their is no place for that in this game or any other.

Following Reg's line of thinking, what if during the heat of the game the Union player was wound up and threw a cheap shot, then lied to try and make it seem legit?

Shouldn't he be thrown off his team?

Here's another question no one seems to want to ask:  What if in the heat of the game the RPI player said what he's accused of saying, and the Union player just said "shut up, you ignorant a**h*le?"

So what are you asking?
If the Union player had done that there would have been no flag. He jacked him, so he got flagged. Late hits happen in football all the time. You take the 15 yards and make the kid run some sprints or suicides during the week.

Redswarm you are being way too closed minded about this. This is not a Union-RPI thing so just put the rivalry aside. The best team won yesterday. This conversation is about something that needs to be addressed because it is not 1920 in Alabama. My best friend is hispanic, if some called him a racial slur and I was there to here it, even at 39 years old, I promise you my response would not be to call him an A-Hole. Id jack the dude.  You are making WAY too big a deal about the late hit. I guarentee you RPI has a few of those this year, heck it wouldnt surprise me if Redswarm had one at some point in his career.

[Reno Hightower]

and everyone is sure that the kid who made the late hit and who is in the doghouse with his team isn't making this all up...right?

im sure hes not too much in the doghouse. like i said late hits get called in almost every football game!

Unions kickers however.......

I feel horribly for Ben Rapple, the Union kicker. He looked so disgusted with himself after he came off the field onto the Union bench...

I do to, I mean it is not like any of the players would ever consciously do anything to hurt the team, Rapple included. I feel for him and don't believe he alone is to blame. I give him credit for working hard to improve and continuing to battle each week. Hopefully some things will begin to go his way. Yet overall as I stated in a previous post the special teams play is just so poor and is really deflating this team time and again. I really believe special teams is the "bridge to momentum" and when a team struggles with special teams they allow the other team to take control of that bridge. As a die hard Dutch fan I am very disappointed with the special teams play and that does include the kicking game.  I stand behind Rapple, and Eppely and believe they will continue to improve. Something though has to happen to help this area of the team become more consistent and successful.

I do not feel bad for him. He is a 5th year senior. He will not be improving. I do not feel bad for Epley, he is a junior who still cant kick a ball outside the hashes so Union can get decent kick coverage.

The only way Union will get better in the kicking game (which as far as Im concerned has cost them 3 games this season) is to recruit a stud kicker. Just have to get him through Admissions and Financial Aid, which is a whole other ball of wax from what I hear.....