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labart96

Quote from: JoseQViper on November 06, 2008, 09:17:57 AM
Check out these photos of Gruden's kid playing high school foozball.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_football_buccaneer/2008/11/deuce-gruden-an.html

Pics 5 and 10, classic chucky face on the young one...I am going to start working him for IC soon.

Deuce (Deuce?)?

Looks like Eddie Haskell in pads.....

PBR...

Quote from: JoseQViper on November 06, 2008, 09:17:57 AM
Check out these photos of Gruden's kid playing high school foozball.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_football_buccaneer/2008/11/deuce-gruden-an.html

Pics 5 and 10, classic chucky face on the young one...I am going to start working him for IC soon.

he looks like he 10 years old....(god is pbr getting old...)

Jonny Utah

Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on November 06, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 06, 2008, 09:09:01 AM
Quote from: Regulator on November 06, 2008, 08:15:24 AM
Quote from: Union89 on November 06, 2008, 12:13:13 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 05, 2008, 11:43:08 PM
Quote from: Regulator on November 05, 2008, 07:03:55 PM
That's why I asked, "Why are you celebrating"

Every Obama supports response "Change"..... Change??  Can someone get specific for me?  I change stuff all the time, the way I drive to work, the food I eat, the channel on TV..... See, that's specific.

Reg, to me, it's not a change in 'politics'.  Politics will always be politics.  To me, it's a change in people's frame of mind.  It's good for the world.  When was the last time you saw people excited about an election?  People excited to be an American?  People excited about a political speech.  I was first the first time EVER.  The politics won't change, our lives won't change.  The economy will do what the economy does, one way or the other over time.  But this 'change' shows that we are growing as people.  If you have heard some of the ridiculous comments here that make me want to puke, it makes me proud to know who I voted for.  I just hope a couple of these stubborn, arrogant, ignorant people can evolve from their roots, and see the world a little differently in a few years. 

This has been another episode of 'Deep Thoughts', by Jack Handy.



Rainbow's and kitty cats all over again....
LD,

Re-read your post....
Can you see why I say people can't put their hands around this "change"?
Other things besides a new president change americans....a jump of 2000 points in the market.....being able to get a loan....cost of gas at a buck fifty...houses not sitting on the market upside down.  Those are changes.

I am willing to bet that anyone getting elected would have gained what you mentioned in your post, mainly bc the guy running the country now is so despised.


I can wrap my arms around it.  I just don't need to on these f'ing boards, especially with some of you hard-headed morons.  Just relax puppy dog, your market will recover.  Your 401K will be worth more than $1000 when you retire.  You'll be able to sell a house once again, and make some 'change' on ebay. 

Anyone see Urijah Faber get knocked the F out last night?

LOL...nothin' better than LD keepin' it real....

Yea you just can't be too serious about the whole thing.  Making fun of the extreme right and left is always funny.


The empire ordered an extra imperial walker for the raid on Reg's house for his pot o' gold he has stashed...

Jonny Utah

Sticking to the Star Wars theme.  It's time to bring back the random pic of the day.....


Reno Hightower

Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 05, 2008, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 05, 2008, 08:06:32 PM
Frank and dllip I usually agree with you guys but I think Hobart is better than RPI. The only way I see RPI winning is with Special Teams. Its a down year for Hobart Special Teams wise and RPI is exceptional.
It took a superhuman effort by Coney for Union to beat Hobart....by 3 points. Hobarts Pass defense is exceptional. and RPI has no running game to brag about. I really think RPI is going to struggle to score points. Unions pass defense has been awful and they really made RPI work (held Robertson 70 yards under his season average). Hobart put up 35 on Union like it was nothing. In fact they missed 3 FG's, so it could have been 44! And the only reason it was that little was because there was only because the game stops after 60 minutes when 1 team has a lead!

Reno -- Name one game this season in which Hobart looked extremely strong, like a team that could go out and beat any opponent with such a performance.  I'll help you out here -- I haven't really seen one.  Even the WPI win had plenty of mistakes for Hobart, making it more of a battle of turnovers and short fields for Hobart more than it was a pure offensive/defensive victory.

As I said, and you didn't address, the Hobart defense is a mismatch against the RPI offense.  The reason Union thrived was because the 3-5-3 they ran allowed more outside penetration so that when Robertson couldn't find a target, his backside was easily exposed for a sack.  Hobart's defense either needs to add some outside power or they're going to be bitten by Robertson all day.


I think Hobart will defend the pass well. They have all year. I dont see why that will change. They have 1 of the top pass defenses in the country. I do not think RPI can run the ball well this year. I mean Robertson is their leading rusher every week with 30 something yards on scrambles. I just dont feel it.
RPI special teams is the X-Factor. RPI Special Teams could very well win this game.

I just dont see it happening.

Reno Hightower

Quote from: dlippiel on November 05, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 05, 2008, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 05, 2008, 06:35:04 PM
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Quote from: Frank Rossi on November 05, 2008, 06:23:02 PM
Quote from: stimulator on November 05, 2008, 06:19:41 PM
TGP

Love the effort and detail of your preview.  I go back to my earlier key to the game for RPI against Union however....

RPI's DL has played very stout all year.  

Against Union Coney did break one, but the balance of the carries were for very short yardage. 25 carries for 58 yards.  His longest other carry was 8 yards.  Not sure of the caliber of the Union vs. Hobart OL both are very big fact Union may be bigger than H.  Nor for that matter do I want to judge the talent of Coney vs. Marlier/Hobaica (all three are talented backs), but if they want to grind out first downs as you say they will most likely have to mix it up.  I don't see Hobart being able to pound it for multiple first downs per drive on the ground.

Doyle plays very good they have a solid chance.. He struggles it may be hard for the Statesmen to generate enough offense to win.

Duh ... guess the same goes for Robertson.  





I'm telling ya - RPI by 30.  Hobart's LB-led defense isn't going to help matters since it was from the outside and the blind side that Union was able to penetrate to Robertson -- not the inside.  The LBs would be great against the run if RPI had much of one to talk about.  Doyle's numbers last week weren't great, the injuries are not positive for Hobart and their running game has been bland, at best.  While Hobart is a good team, RPI is just plain better and will run circles around Hobart.

RPI wins 45-14.

I really do think your right Frank. I think RPI wins by double digits. I feel Robertson is really going to take charge against Bart. He is going to have time to throw and we all know what happens when that guy has time.

When he's got time, he joins us on "In the HuddLLe" on Sunday nights at 7:30pm.  It's SCIENCE.

Frank and dllip I usually agree with you guys but I think Hobart is better than RPI. The only way I see RPI winning is with Special Teams. Its a down year for Hobart Special Teams wise and RPI is exceptional.
It took a superhuman effort by Coney for Union to beat Hobart....by 3 points. Hobarts Pass defense is exceptional. and RPI has no running game to brag about. I really think RPI is going to struggle to score points. Unions pass defense has been awful and they really made RPI work (held Robertson 70 yards under his season average). Hobart put up 35 on Union like it was nothing. In fact they missed 3 FG's, so it could have been 44! And the only reason it was that little was because there was only because the game stops after 60 minutes when 1 team has a lead!

Reno I hope you are right man. I just don't know man. There is just something about RPI this year where I feel that Robertson is not going to be denied. Against Union the U d played very very well I thought, much better than any other game this season. The thing is this, I felt U shut down a lot of Robertson's options in the flat which he exploits against everyone. It just took two plays though for him to connect on a deeper route and bang, they are on their way. It is going to be tough for Bart. They are going to need to penetrate and their LB's are going to have to take care of their coverage while also staying home for Costa. He may not get a lot of credit and/or attention but he has the ability to break out. Believe me I have said it before I am a pumpkin head this week and am even considering passing up U's final home game and checking out the game at 86'. I don't know yet, I think SRT may be looking to take me down for my unwarranted outbursts earlier in the week. I would love to be proved wrong here about the outcome of the game but I just don't know. What do you think BArt has that is going to take them to victory?

Like I said, pass defense.
Also a senior QB.
And although Hobart hasnt been Hobart on Special Teams, I can see Coach Cragg using RPI's success this year as motivation for his own team and Hobart at least getting a draw in that area of the game. If its a draw in ST, I do not see how Hobart will not win the game.

lewdogg11

A good majority of Robertson's runs are by design.  It's part of the offensive package.  RPI's RBs are good.  Small, but very quick and tough.  I think Hobart has their hands full.

lewdogg11

New Rule...

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redswarm81

Quote from: Jonny Utah on November 06, 2008, 09:46:16 AM
Sticking to the Star Wars theme.  It's time to bring back the random pic of the day.....



That's not random--that's eerily reminiscent of my DC-area commute, where my progress is continually obstructed by slug-like government workers and foreign nationals, 90% of whom brake for green lights--no lie.
Irritating SAT-lagging Union undergrads and alums since 1977

redswarm81

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 06, 2008, 09:56:25 AM
New Rule...

Ignore RedSwarm81...

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I'm old enough to remember when liberals actually encouraged free speech.

What color jerseys will Hobart be wearing on Saturday at the '86 Field?
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Reno Hightower

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 06, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
A good majority of Robertson's runs are by design.  It's part of the offensive package.  RPI's RBs are good.  Small, but very quick and tough.  I think Hobart has their hands full.

They didnt look very good against Union. And Hobarts Defense is better than Unions. I could very well be wrong about them (lord knows I have been before!!!!) but I dont think either team is going to run the ball very well. I was not impressed with either teams running game against Union. And I was actually more impressed with Hobarts passing game (cant really deny me on that 35 points all on offense [and 3 missed FG's] vs 25 points of which all but 3 were GREATLY aided by TO's and Special Teams).

as Ive said, ST is a huge X-Factor in this game. And TO's always matter obviously. I think if there are 0 TO's in the game and 0 big plays on ST's that Hobart will win, by double digits!

lewdogg11

So how about that Daunte Culpepper?

Reno Hightower

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 06, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
A good majority of Robertson's runs are by design.  It's part of the offensive package.  RPI's RBs are good.  Small, but very quick and tough.  I think Hobart has their hands full.

RPI did not run 1 designed QB Run against Union. Im sure they have them in the playbook but they didnt use them. Those RBs, while they cannot be ignored, are not All-LL type players.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Reno Hightower on November 06, 2008, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 06, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
A good majority of Robertson's runs are by design.  It's part of the offensive package.  RPI's RBs are good.  Small, but very quick and tough.  I think Hobart has their hands full.

They didnt look very good against Union. And Hobarts Defense is better than Unions. I could very well be wrong about them (lord knows I have been before!!!!) but I dont think either team is going to run the ball very well. I was not impressed with either teams running game against Union. And I was actually more impressed with Hobarts passing game (cant really deny me on that 35 points all on offense [and 3 missed FG's] vs 25 points of which all but 3 were GREATLY aided by TO's and Special Teams).

as Ive said, ST is a huge X-Factor in this game. And TO's always matter obviously. I think if there are 0 TO's in the game and 0 big plays on ST's that Hobart will win, by double digits!

I know it was all of 3 games ago, but Union's O scored 38 on Hobart.  Other than St. Lawrence, Union's biggest game on O was 25 points against Rochester...Union's O is no juggernaut.  I think Hobart's D may be a little overhyped.

'gro

Quote from: LewDogg11 on November 06, 2008, 10:18:48 AM
So how about that Daunte Culpepper?

He better launch the ball to Calvin "Megatron" Johnson all day sunday.  The Tough Travelers are 3-6!!