Small Colleges Starting Football

[theoriginalupstate]

Just to throw a few more schools on the radar, I've had informal conversations with people at Villa Julie who wouldn't rule out adding the sport at some point.  There are no official plans to do so, though.

Last March we mentioned that Castleton State was being encouraged by its conference mates in other sports (e.g. Becker, Husson) to add football.

Also last year I heard the State University of New York (SUNY) is pushing its two-year, non-community college schools to become four-year institutions.  That's what sparked Morrisville State's jump to Division III and could bring Alfred State (different from Alfred U) into the fold.

Now Alfred/Alfred St would be a dam good rivalry game.  Could I say it would be the closed two schools are from each other in the world? (right across the street 30yards?)

Would Alfred play Alfred state? I'm not sure about that. 

They wouldnt touch the idea of scrimmaging us (alfred state) when I played there. 

[Jonny Utah]

Just to throw a few more schools on the radar, I've had informal conversations with people at Villa Julie who wouldn't rule out adding the sport at some point.  There are no official plans to do so, though.

Last March we mentioned that Castleton State was being encouraged by its conference mates in other sports (e.g. Becker, Husson) to add football.

Also last year I heard the State University of New York (SUNY) is pushing its two-year, non-community college schools to become four-year institutions.  That's what sparked Morrisville State's jump to Division III and could bring Alfred State (different from Alfred U) into the fold.

Now Alfred/Alfred St would be a dam good rivalry game.  Could I say it would be the closed two schools are from each other in the world? (right across the street 30yards?)

Would Alfred play Alfred state? I'm not sure about that. 

They wouldnt touch the idea of scrimmaging us (alfred state) when I played there. 

Yea I can see not wanting to scrimmage or play someone that is on a different level than you.  But I dont see how a d3 game wouldnt be played.

[pg04]

Not sure what would be gained for Alfred in that situation.

Well they could gain a great rival.  And I would assume both schools would be looking for day games.

And yea, Alfred wouldnt have anything to gain right away, but if (and thats a big if) Alfred St ever got off the ground, that would be a great upstate rivalry.

I just hate seeing a d3 team not being able to fill out a 10 game schedule because some school real close to them refuses to play them becuase of something that doesnt make sense. (like the school being public or the school not meeting that schools academic standards)  If the schools are d3, they should play each other.

Maybe they could join the NJAC like every other SUNY school supporting football 

[Jonny Utah]

Not sure what would be gained for Alfred in that situation.

Well they could gain a great rival.  And I would assume both schools would be looking for day games.

And yea, Alfred wouldnt have anything to gain right away, but if (and thats a big if) Alfred St ever got off the ground, that would be a great upstate rivalry.

I just hate seeing a d3 team not being able to fill out a 10 game schedule because some school real close to them refuses to play them becuase of something that doesnt make sense. (like the school being public or the school not meeting that schools academic standards)  If the schools are d3, they should play each other.

Maybe they could join the NJAC like every other SUNY school supporting football 

Im gonna say by the time Alfred St gets a football team, it will be the NJAC teams trying to get into the SUNY league!

[pg04]

You may be right, as we would have Buffalo State, Brockport State, Morrisville State, Cortland State and Alfred State.  Would (or is there) a 6th team to make the jump, or am I completely missing one already?

[pg04]

Just to throw a few more schools on the radar, I've had informal conversations with people at Villa Julie who wouldn't rule out adding the sport at some point.  There are no official plans to do so, though.

Last March we mentioned that Castleton State was being encouraged by its conference mates in other sports (e.g. Becker, Husson) to add football.

Also last year I heard the State University of New York (SUNY) is pushing its two-year, non-community college schools to become four-year institutions.  That's what sparked Morrisville State's jump to Division III and could bring Alfred State (different from Alfred U) into the fold.

Now Alfred/Alfred St would be a dam good rivalry game.  Could I say it would be the closed two schools are from each other in the world? (right across the street 30yards?)

Would Alfred play Alfred state? I'm not sure about that. 

They wouldnt touch the idea of scrimmaging us (alfred state) when I played there. 

Yea I can see not wanting to scrimmage or play someone that is on a different level than you.  But I dont see how a d3 game wouldnt be played.

I did hear from certain people while I was at Brockport that they refused to put State Schools on the schedule (or at least Brockport) but I can't confirm that as it could have just been whining 

[Jonny Utah]

You may be right, as we would have Buffalo State, Brockport State, Morrisville State, Cortland State and Alfred State.  Would (or is there) a 6th team to make the jump, or am I completely missing one already?

Yea I dont know.  I would think Geneseo, Oswego or Oneonta would be the next logical ones....or maybe Potsdam?  Do ya think St. Lawrence would ever believe they could get a daytrip game?

['gro]

You may be right, as we would have Buffalo State, Brockport State, Morrisville State, Cortland State and Alfred State.  Would (or is there) a 6th team to make the jump, or am I completely missing one already?

Yea I dont know.  I would think Geneseo, Oswego or Oneonta would be the next logical ones....or maybe Potsdam?  Do ya think St. Lawrence would ever believe they could get a daytrip game?

Don't forget New Paltz, Plattsburg, and Fredonia... if the powers that be wanted to, there could be SUNYAC football.

[smedindy]

The WIAC of the East??? 

[Pat Coleman]

Already exists in New Jersey, no?

[gordonmann]

Don't forget SUNY Maritime, which already has football even if they don't participate in the SUNYAC for other sports.  That would give you six, just one short of an AQ.

The other two-year SUNY schools (Cobleskill, Delhi, Canton) don't offer football.

I've kicked around the SUNYAC football conference idea a bunch of times.  Based on informal discussions with people at Cortland and Morrisville, I think it's more likely that a SUNYAC football conference would pull in 1-2 "associate members" than that two current members of the SUNYAC would start football.

But, if we're making requests, I'd like to see SUNY-Canton add football given their mascot -- maybe they can play Austin.  Or maybe we can get the Fashion Institute of Technology to add sports.  I could think of many "FIT-ting" mascot choices.

[Warren Thompson]

url=http://www.canton.edu/athletics/]SUNY-Canton add football given their mascot[/url] -- maybe they can play Austin.  Or maybe we can get the Fashion Institute of Technology to add sports.  I could think of many "FIT-ting" mascot choices.

Indeed. Another "fitting" matchup would be McMurry v. MacMurray (a broadcaster's nightmare, I fear).

BTW will you be calling the LVC-DVC game in Annville, 06 October 2007? Perhaps this time we could meet -- and the Dutchmen won't let the game get away from them in the second half. 

[Jonny Utah]

Don't forget SUNY Maritime, which already has football even if they don't participate in the SUNYAC for other sports.  That would give you six, just one short of an AQ.

The other two-year SUNY schools (Cobleskill, Delhi, Canton) don't offer football.

I've kicked around the SUNYAC football conference idea a bunch of times.  Based on informal discussions with people at Cortland and Morrisville, I think it's more likely that a SUNYAC football conference would pull in 1-2 "associate members" than that two current members of the SUNYAC would start football.

But, if we're making requests, I'd like to see SUNY-Canton add football given their mascot -- maybe they can play Austin.  Or maybe we can get the Fashion Institute of Technology to add sports.  I could think of many "FIT-ting" mascot choices.

Actually I forgot about Canton.  And they might be the next closest to getting one.  (Im assuming that they still have a team as they used to play the Ithaca JVs and give them a good game [I think?] )

[Ralph Turner]

Don't forget SUNY Maritime, which already has football even if they don't participate in the SUNYAC for other sports.  That would give you six, just one short of an AQ.

The other two-year SUNY schools (Cobleskill, Delhi, Canton) don't offer football.

I've kicked around the SUNYAC football conference idea a bunch of times.  Based on informal discussions with people at Cortland and Morrisville, I think it's more likely that a SUNYAC football conference would pull in 1-2 "associate members" than that two current members of the SUNYAC would start football.

But, if we're making requests, I'd like to see SUNY-Canton add football given their mascot -- maybe they can play Austin.  Or maybe we can get the Fashion Institute of Technology to add sports.  I could think of many "FIT-ting" mascot choices.

Gordon, I have thought about a SUNYAC bid as well.

Whom do you think that they would get as an affiliate(s)?

Would we see a private school joining a public conference in football as an affiliate?

Do we have a bidding war between the NJAC and the SUNYAC for affiliates?

There just aren't too many other options up there that part of the country. 

[Jonny Utah]

Don't forget SUNY Maritime, which already has football even if they don't participate in the SUNYAC for other sports.  That would give you six, just one short of an AQ.

The other two-year SUNY schools (Cobleskill, Delhi, Canton) don't offer football.

I've kicked around the SUNYAC football conference idea a bunch of times.  Based on informal discussions with people at Cortland and Morrisville, I think it's more likely that a SUNYAC football conference would pull in 1-2 "associate members" than that two current members of the SUNYAC would start football.

But, if we're making requests, I'd like to see SUNY-Canton add football given their mascot -- maybe they can play Austin.  Or maybe we can get the Fashion Institute of Technology to add sports.  I could think of many "FIT-ting" mascot choices.

Gordon, I have thought about a SUNYAC bid as well.

Whom do you think that they would get as an affiliate(s)?

Would we see a private school joining a public conference in football as an affiliate?

Do we have a bidding war between the NJAC and the SUNYAC for affiliates?

There just aren't too many other options up there that part of the country. 

You might see a few NEFC teams jump ship in order to boost football.

And I would bet Plymouth St. would be the first to join.

WNEC might be interested,