Small Colleges Starting Football

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Speaking of SUNY schools - I'm very surprised Oswego has not tried to get a team going. They have a great Hockey program, and perhaps should look into it.

On that level, does it seem that Hockey takes the place of Football in the nature and spectrum of men's sports offered?  I see plenty of Hockey schools that do not have Football, especially in smaller schools.

Yes, I think you've got a point there. I do feel that they could have both though, and probably have two successful programs.

Edit: Like some were discussing on another board, Oswego could use the hockey status as a draw, and continue to build up both programs. They won the National Championship this year, so what better time to capitalize on that success for the school.

[PA_wesleyfan]

not so easy to do these days with the equality issues.. you would have to match a football program with a few womens sports...

Speaking of SUNY schools - I'm very surprised Oswego has not tried to get a team going. They have a great Hockey program, and perhaps should look into it.

On that level, does it seem that Hockey takes the place of Football in the nature and spectrum of men's sports offered?  I see plenty of Hockey schools that do not have Football, especially in smaller schools.

Yes, I think you've got a point there. I do feel that they could have both though, and probably have two successful programs.

Edit: Like some were discussing on another board, Oswego could use the hockey status as a draw, and continue to build up both programs. They won the National Championship this year, so what better time to capitalize on that success for the school.

[Ralph Turner]

not so easy to do these days with the equality issues.. you would have to match a football program with a few womens sports...

Speaking of SUNY schools - I'm very surprised Oswego has not tried to get a team going. They have a great Hockey program, and perhaps should look into it.

On that level, does it seem that Hockey takes the place of Football in the nature and spectrum of men's sports offered?  I see plenty of Hockey schools that do not have Football, especially in smaller schools.

Yes, I think you've got a point there. I do feel that they could have both though, and probably have two successful programs.

Edit: Like some were discussing on another board, Oswego could use the hockey status as a draw, and continue to build up both programs. They won the National Championship this year, so what better time to capitalize on that success for the school.

You can have a testosterone-laden male sport with a roster of 75-100 in football or a testosterone-laden male (and female sport) with a roster of 20-25 for ice hockey.

Looks like Title IX drives another decision in the Athletic Department... 

[Jonny Utah]

Speaking of SUNY schools - I'm very surprised Oswego has not tried to get a team going. They have a great Hockey program, and perhaps should look into it.

On that level, does it seem that Hockey takes the place of Football in the nature and spectrum of men's sports offered?  I see plenty of Hockey schools that do not have Football, especially in smaller schools.

true, and if these schools have rinks, thats a lot more money than a football team could be....

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Speaking of SUNY schools - I'm very surprised Oswego has not tried to get a team going. They have a great Hockey program, and perhaps should look into it.

On that level, does it seem that Hockey takes the place of Football in the nature and spectrum of men's sports offered?  I see plenty of Hockey schools that do not have Football, especially in smaller schools.

true, and if these schools have rinks, thats a lot more money than a football team could be....

Oswego just finished a brand new facility for the Hocky Team / "student union" (ie: bs to cover funding for the rink)

So I think in a year or so they should free up some funding for a squad! I believe there are a plethora of women's sports offered already, so may be OK there.

[gordonmann]

SUNY-Maritime anyone?

Yep, I agree they would be a good fit for a SUNYAC football conference.

gordonmann on July 09, 2007, 04:08:31 pm
Don't forget SUNY Maritime, which already has football even if they don't participate in the SUNYAC for other sports.  That would give you six, just one short of an AQ.

[K-Mack]

SUNY-Maritime anyone?

Yep, I agree they would be a good fit for a SUNYAC football conference.

gordonmann on July 09, 2007, 04:08:31 pm
Don't forget SUNY Maritime, which already has football even if they don't participate in the SUNYAC for other sports.  That would give you six, just one short of an AQ.

Yeah, I read about 44 messages that suggested other schools but omitted Maritime before I posted.

Then when I finally posted, the next message was yours suggesting Maritime, and I didn't feel like going back and deleting mine. 

I always post first, read last. Leads to lots of fun and confusing moments on the board!

[AUPepBand]

Just to throw a few more schools on the radar, I've had informal conversations with people at Villa Julie who wouldn't rule out adding the sport at some point.  There are no official plans to do so, though.

Last March we mentioned that Castleton State was being encouraged by its conference mates in other sports (e.g. Becker, Husson) to add football.

Also last year I heard the State University of New York (SUNY) is pushing its two-year, non-community college schools to become four-year institutions.  That's what sparked Morrisville State's jump to Division III and could bring Alfred State (different from Alfred U) into the fold.

Now Alfred/Alfred St would be a dam good rivalry game.  Could I say it would be the closed two schools are from each other in the world? (right across the street 30yards?)

Somehow Pep missed this discussion. Perhaps an Alfredian can shed a little light. The two institutions used to meet at the (one-and-only) traffic light for snowball fights; probably with the exception of track and field/cross country, dodgeball and the AIDS Charity Basketball Game, the only competition between the two institutions.

Alfred State, unlike Morrisville State, has about 700 students at its Wellsville School of Vocational Studies that at present are not under the umbrella of a baccalaureate program, thus inhibiting Alfred State from moving to NCAA D3 status. Meanwhile, Alfred State is presently rebuilding its soccer field/track facility into a field turf multi-purpose stadium to give the Pioneers a home football field for the first time in its brief football-playing history. So long as A-State has 700 students whose curricula do not fall under a baccalaureate program, A-State will continue as a junior college while also offering baccalaureate programs.

As for the likelihood of Alfred University and Alfred State College meeting on the gridiron, don't hold your breath...

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks to Helmet Project for this list of schools adding football across all classifications.

Albertson decided not to add football in 2005, but the issue may still be on a back burner.

Kentucky Christian (Grayson KY) wants to add football in non-scholarship NAIA or NCAA.

Rescinding the moratorium may permit some NAIA schools to come over and start football programs at the same time.

[Rolevio]

I will have to look for the links, but one thing the NCAA has been looking at is allowing Canadian schools admittance into the NCAA, the driving force has mainly been hockey and basketball, but football may be a possibility as well.  The University of British Columbia is the main driving force, but a small school out of Ontario aiming for D3 status has also inquired.

[smedindy]

Would teams playing a Canadian D-3 team have to play with 110 yard fields, 3 downs, 12 men, unlimited motion, and the rouge? Because that would be awesome! Well, novel!

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Would teams playing a Canadian D-3 team have to play with 110 yard fields, 3 downs, 12 men, unlimited motion, and the rouge? Because that would be awesome! Well, novel!

Not unlimited motion.  The two outside receivers and 5 down linemen have to be set. 

[Ralph Turner]

Castleton State is the 7th school in the North Atlantic Conference to add football.

Fall 2009.

NCAA Press Release

[Ron Boerger]

Castleton State is the 7th school in the North Atlantic Conference to add football.

Fall 2009.

"The decision comes just weeks after the school announced a $25.7 million enlargement and renovation of its Campus Center that includes a small, lighted stadium with artificial turf. The field will be used for football and other sports."

Yeah, if you're gonna spend that kind of money and build a lit field you kinda need something to do with it.    Welcome to D3 football, Castleton State!

[Pat Coleman]

Castleton State is the 7th school in the North Atlantic Conference to add football.

Fall 2009.

NCAA Press Release

Good of the NCAA to finally catch up.