Small Colleges Starting Football

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PA_wesleyfan

Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2009, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 28, 2009, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on January 28, 2009, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 28, 2009, 05:22:52 PM
One wonders how many venues might be reconsidering their football programs in light of the current national financial troubles (and, for some, the lack of on-the-field success).

Texas Lutheran, for one, comes to mind (FULL DISCLOSURE: back in the Dark Ages I was a faculty member there; frankly, I wonder if TLU just might be better off without football, given that this institution, for whatever reasons, doesn't seem capable or willing to compete with, e.g., the D3 likes of Hardin-Simmons and M-HB).

I have been wondering but haven't had the time to look it up, what is the net gain or loss for D3 with the dropping and adding of programs.

Good question, I think.
Dropping football since 2000

NJCU, Blackburn, Principia...

Adding football since 2000...

Louisiana College (2000), Huntingdon (2003), LaGrange (2006), St Scholastica  (2008),  NCWC (2004), ETBU (2000), Anna Marie (2009) , Castleton St (2009), BSC (2007), CNU (2001), St Vincent (2007), Wisc Lutheran (2000), Husson (2003) SUNY-Maritime (2006).

Corrections appreciated.


I googled the web site and found this article that Pat Coleman wrote.   ;D

I left off Endicott, Becker, Rockford, Utica, and Shenandoah.



Morrisville,  and
I think you could count Gallaudet out and in again
Football !!! The ultimate team sport. Anyone who plays DIII football is a winner...

Ralph Turner

#121
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 28, 2009, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on January 28, 2009, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 28, 2009, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: Knightstalker on January 28, 2009, 06:04:56 PM
Quote from: Warren Thompson on January 28, 2009, 05:22:52 PM
One wonders how many venues might be reconsidering their football programs in light of the current national financial troubles (and, for some, the lack of on-the-field success).

Texas Lutheran, for one, comes to mind (FULL DISCLOSURE: back in the Dark Ages I was a faculty member there; frankly, I wonder if TLU just might be better off without football, given that this institution, for whatever reasons, doesn't seem capable or willing to compete with, e.g., the D3 likes of Hardin-Simmons and M-HB).

I have been wondering but haven't had the time to look it up, what is the net gain or loss for D3 with the dropping and adding of programs.

Good question, I think.
Dropping football since 2000

NJCU, Blackburn, Principia...

Adding football since 2000...

Louisiana College (2000), Huntingdon (2003), LaGrange (2006), St Scholastica  (2008),  NCWC (2004), ETBU (2000), Anna Marie (2009) , Castleton St (2009), BSC (2007), CNU (2001), St Vincent (2007), Wisc Lutheran (2000), Husson (2003) SUNY-Maritime (2006).

Corrections appreciated.


I googled the web site and found this article that Pat Coleman wrote.   ;D

I left off Endicott, Becker, Rockford, Utica, and Shenandoah.



Morrisville,  and
I think you could count Gallaudet out and in again
Morrisville had a football program when the school was a junior college.

PA_wesleyfan

Ralph

My bad I asumed  ;)  schools coming to D3
Football !!! The ultimate team sport. Anyone who plays DIII football is a winner...

Ralph Turner

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on January 28, 2009, 11:32:13 PM
Ralph

My bad I asumed  ;)  schools coming to D3
Please check out Pat's article.  :)

Ralph Turner

Page 8 has tentative 2009 schedule for the North Atlantic Conference.

No Anna Marie College listed at this time.

Pat Coleman

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Quote from: HSCTiger74 on December 25, 2008, 02:06:47 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on September 10, 2008, 12:04:53 AM

When someone does leave and the ODAC suddenly needs Shenandoah, is Shenandoah still going to be looking to get in?

Just wondering what (if anything) you may have heard. It seems to me that the ODAC's Va. football schools have been playing forever, going back to the old Mason-Dixon Conference and beyond, and even played Catholic and Guilford on occasion. I don't see any of them leaving unless there is a really major shakeup in conference alignments.

There's the perpetual rumor that W&L would like to be aligned with more like-minded schools, such as those in the Centennial ... but I think geography probably keeps them where they are. (Not to mention, ODAC schools aren't exactly remedial).

I think R-MC, H-SC, Bridgewater and E&H will always been in the same conference, but Catholic's a football-only member, and if their home conference ever offered football, I could see them leaving on short notice.

If I remember my point from a few months ago correctly, it's that the ODAC (or any conference with just 7 football-playing schools) would be wise to hedge its bets with an eighth, lest anyone up and leave, a la the Empire 6.

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Quote from: Conrad on March 08, 2008, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: frank uible on March 07, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
Lake Erie College is geographically located in fertile football recruiting ground, but its extremely small male enrollment works against it.

I could see a greater female to male ratio being an assess, especially if I was an 18-year old recruit again.  ;D


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Ralph Turner

#128

Presentation College
(UMAC) announces that it will add football in 2011.

(There is another state for D-III football, to replace the state that we lost in Colorado.)



Aberdeen SD American News

Pull quotes...

Quote"As soon as you've got between 60 and 90 extra young people, there's a lot this college can do," said [President Lorraine] Hale. "We can get a decent pep band. We can be involved in more community things. We just don't have the numbers here at the moment for that."

The Presentation student body is currently 26 to 30 percent male and 70 to 74 percent female, Hale said. With the addition of approximately 70 football players the first season and more to follow, Presentation hopes to boost its enrollment.

Hale said the college has an enrollment goal of 1,200 students by 2012. Currently, PC has a 2008-09 enrollment of 737 including outreach campuses at Eagle Butte and Fairmont, Minn.

(Wow!  That is an aggressive growth strategy!)

Quote...
The addition of football would also benefit the community.

"One of the things everybody is looking for now is community growth," said Hale. "What we have experienced is that some of the young men who came here from afar have stayed and become very good, productive citizens in this town. We're hoping to do more of that and enhance not only the college but enhance the town."

According to statistics, Hale said every football player will draw .40 of another person to the college. So a total of 60 football players would also add 24 more students who would attend for various reasons.

"Other young people will come because there is a football team," Hale said. "They can play in the pep band, or their boyfriend is going here, or I would be open to having cheerleaders if it was male and female. There are going to be a lot of ramifications. You're not going to see them all the first year, but in five years, you are going to see more of them." ...

We wish her great success!  :)


Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2009, 12:27:48 AM

Presentation College
(UMAC) announces that it will add football in 2011.

(There is another state for D-III football, to replace the state that we lost in Colorado.)

I dare say many would say South Dakota for Colorado is not much of a trade - I'm NOT among them.  The Rockies are in many states; the Black Hills are (except for a tiny sliver in Wyoming) only in South Dakota! ;D

Ralph Turner


AUPepBand

Presentation College's real motivation for adding football to its athletic offerings is in bold:

On a beautiful spring morning, Presentation College announced that the school would begin playing football in fall 2011.
"As soon as you've got between 60 and 90 extra young people, there's a lot this college can do," said Hale. "We can get a decent pep band. We can be involved in more community things. We just don't have the numbers here at the moment for that."


;)

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Ralph Turner

#132
Pacific has pledges lined up to start football in 2010.

Thanks to Bearcat Press for posting the link.

Pull quote...
QuoteGeorge Fox and College of Idaho are other small schools considering adding the sport.

PA_wesleyfan

Big Toe +1 K for finding this story.

Bigtoe75
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     Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
« Reply #3296 on: Today at 08:44:38 am »   

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Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story


Let's see if this has a snowball effect!!!

 

Football !!! The ultimate team sport. Anyone who plays DIII football is a winner...

K-Mack

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on June 27, 2009, 12:08:37 PM
Big Toe +1 K for finding this story.

Bigtoe75
Second-stringer

     Re: Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents
« Reply #3296 on: Today at 08:44:38 am »   

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Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story


Let's see if this has a snowball effect!!!

If you guys take Catholic back, that means we have to steal Shenandoah from the USAC.
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