FB: Midwest Conference

[DuffMan]

Might I suggest Remeron SolTabs? 

[Old Fighting Scot]

Prediction:
Tanney throws 4 interceptions!

Mighty Royal

That would be amazing being that he has only thrown 6 in his last 20 games.....

[OzJohnnie]

While you were thinking of your next insult to sling our way...

The Chairman of the grievance committee accounces boredom with the victimology already and requests scottie to get on with it already.  It is officially noted that continuous whining is really boring.

Everyone gets it.  You're mature and the Johnny supporters aren't.  Move on.

[Old Fighting Scot]

Let's play this game

Monmouth beat Beloit 56-30
Carleton beat Beloit 53-28
St. John's beat Carleton 41-7

Just to compare some scores.  Giving up 30 to Beloit is not very impressive for the Scots.  There is no way the Scots stop the Johnnies offense if they can't stop Beloit's.  In order to win, Momouth will need to put up some serious points.

OneArmedScot

If MC didnt call off the dawgs halfway through the third they would have scored 100.  this is a very bad example homey......

[schwanman]

Old Fighting Scot -- exactly right, which is why comparing scores, though sometimes accurate, cannot really be trusted.

The most prime example of Monmouth's calling off the dawgs came against Ripon. The Scots took a 48-0 lead and subbed extensively. The Red Hawks closed the final score to 48-34.

Games like that and Beloit are why Monmouth's defense is not a big statistical leader. The unit feels they're underrrated and overlooked. Saturday would be a nice time for them to prove outsiders wrong.

[Mr.Shoes]

OK, and explain the 63-9 stomping SJU gave STO, a team that is far better than Beloit. John called off the dogs in the 3rd quarter, and yet the 2nd and 3rd string defenses yielded only 6 more points. AND, after dropping 35 in the 2nd quarter, the 1st string O could have scored 100 in three quarters (no, not really, but "on pace to" is a ridiculous measure).

[DuffMan]

Saturday would be a nice time for them to prove outsiders wrong.

Would be a nice time, but unfortunately, it won't!

[Mr.Shoes]

My point is this: "calling off the dogs" is a pretty dangerous excuse. When your backup defenders give up 34 points, that's not a good sign. You're one or two injuries to first-stringers away from having those backups on the field when the dogs are still "on". The Johnnies pride themselves on not giving up points, no matter how "in hand" the game is. That's why the "respectability" touchdown (note: singular) often scored at the ends of games is met with such disappointment and disdain from the coaches (trust me, they hate 'em), players, and especially fans.

Of the blowout games for SJU this year, Northwestern didn't get one, Carleton did, GAC didn't, Hamline didn't (shutout), Bethel didn't (3rd Q TD), Augsburg did (3rd Q and 4th Q), St. Olaf did (blocked XP), UST did (one would argue that both the 2nd Q and the 4th Q TDs were of the mercy variety). I can guarantee you that after each of those scores, Jerry and Gary were working as hard with the backups to plug holes and fix mistakes as they were with the first-string earlier in the game. There is NO attitude of "meh, we're well ahead already" anywhere on that team. Is it a "kick 'em when they're down" attitude like some would allege? Hardly. It's merely taking pride in one's work as a defender, and that means defending the goal, regardless of score.

[Old Fighting Scot]

Looks like the Scots have some pretty good size on their O and D lines and their LB's.  How would you fans rate each (objectively)?  Is the o-line better at run blocking or pass blocking?  Do they have decent footwork, or are they just brutes up front?  How about the d-line?  Do they come at you hard, or are they more of a read-and-react style?  Are the linebackers the athletic type that can cover a receiver, or are they mainly used to plug holes?  What else can you tell us?  Is your passing game more quick rhythm or does he air it out.]

O-line.  very big, but somewhat inexperienced.  only returned one (maybe two) starters from last years 9-1 team.  pass blocking is their strength, but against a push have been sketchy in protecting tanney.  Run blocking is relatively average but, daniels is a speedster (if he gets in the open field he will not be caught by a johnnie or a viking for that matter).  if we are running well it is b/c the opposition is just too small.

D-line is huge (have a 6-7 260-270 lb tackle, former bball center)and very athletic up the middle.  if we are playing well the d-line will just stand up opposing line and push them back.  zigler #48 LB is as good as they come.  saw baby urlacher (lake forest) and LB from nubs (3 or 4 years ago) and he is better.  both of those guys are or have been in "the league."  other two Lb's make plays when too much attention is paid to #48.  the secondary is young, outside of #21 bast.  very aggressive, physical corner.  wont back down, might give up a big play, but if he does he will make two.  the defense is lacking superior speed, if you check back to like page 20 i said the same thing before we played nubs. 

Bottomline:  a little more speed on D and One more playmaker on O is keeping the scots from winning a national title with their current team.  But the intangibles of tanney, and the skills of the playmakers we do have will make saturday's game a lot more interesting than the D3football.com nation think........

Beware of the Scots Nation, the fever is spreading and reaching epic proportions![/b

[scottie]

OH, LIGHTEN UP MR. SHOES!  You're taking this way too seriously!!!  

Actually, the Scots' fans are overly excited and proud of our team's accomplishments this season (and for the last 17 games in a row).  It's just that when we try to celebrate our accomplishments, pcole and you jonnie-straps try to throw a wet blanket on us.  

[Kilted Rat]

My karma dropped, someone must have googled or WebMD'ed PMDD.

[Old Fighting Scot]

Calling off the dawgs and playing the third and 4th string is probably the biggest difference between MC and the johnnies.  MC is not a deep team and the reserves are not as talented as one would like.  but last i checked there are only 11 guys on the field for each team at any given time.  when the game matters the MC starters are one the field handling their business.....

unless we are up by 30 going into 4th you wont have to worry about the strenght of our 3rd or 4th string.......

[Mr.Shoes]

Get yelled at for having too much fun... get yelled at for being too serious and talking football. WTF?

GO JOHNNIES!

[scottie]

My sentiments exactly.  WTF

[Old Fighting Scot]

any thoughts on the laker/clipper game tonite?