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TheGreenKnight920

Quote from: Retired Old Rat on November 21, 2018, 12:42:39 AM
Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 21, 2018, 12:19:20 AM
Local news is awful about covering college teams up here, but we finally hear a peep!

https://www.wbay.com/content/sports/SNC-rides-defense-to-2nd-round-of-NCAA-playoffs-500981281.html

Does that indoor practice facility belong to SNC?  If so, wow.

It is actually the Packer's facility. They let the SNC baseball team use it as well.

gbpuckfan

#10831
another preview:
https://fox11online.com/sports/college/st-norbert-readies-for-uw-whitewater-in-d3-football-playoffs

Edit: apparently the wrong video was originally clipped to the story ... so I guess it is being fixed. if you saw the Macalester highlights, try again
St. Norbert College Green Knights
NCAA D3 Hockey National Champions 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

gbpuckfan

Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 21, 2018, 12:19:20 AM
Local news is awful about covering college teams up here, but we finally hear a peep!



Most of the stations cover home games. I saw highlights of the Trine game on one station... and I'm pretty sure SNC asked the stations to do the previews yesterday
St. Norbert College Green Knights
NCAA D3 Hockey National Champions 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

Craft_Beermeister

Quote from: gbpuckfan on November 21, 2018, 07:06:32 AM
another preview:
https://fox11online.com/sports/college/st-norbert-readies-for-uw-whitewater-in-d3-football-playoffs

Good luck to Green Knights they have a difficult draw this weekend. Advancing in the playoffs is always makes things exciting this time of year. Cherish the fun and be proud of your team.

sncsid

Quote from: gbpuckfan on November 21, 2018, 07:08:45 AM
Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 21, 2018, 12:19:20 AM
Local news is awful about covering college teams up here, but we finally hear a peep!



Most of the stations cover home games. I saw highlights of the Trine game on one station... and I'm pretty sure SNC asked the stations to do the previews yesterday

I disagree with the assertion that local news doesn't cover St. Norbert. The newspaper, yes, but the television stations do a fine job - especially with the monolith on Lombardi Avenue taking up a lot of time, as it should.

I also didn't ask anyone to do a preview. I just sent out practice availability knowing there would be interest coming off a playoff win. It worked out with practice at the Hutson Center since Tuesday is the off day for the Packers and the media need a fresh story for Tuesday night.

warhawkguard

I can attest to the great TV coverage the local teams get from GB television. WBAY and others have quite a robust sports coverage when I am at the lake near Shawano on many weekends. I live in Milwaukee and there is ZERO, zilch, nada coverage of anything besides the pro teams and the D1 programs. UWW gets a 2 second mention ONLY if they win the Stagg Bowl. We'd rather see the weather 4 times per 30 minutes in Milwaukee I guess...I have ripped a few of the Sprots guys here when I've met them and they say it isn't their call.

I'll be at the game Saturday cheering on my Warhawks. Last time you guys came to the Perk it wasn't pretty. Wait till you see OUR Defense! 
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gbpuckfan

Quote from: sncsid on November 21, 2018, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on November 21, 2018, 07:08:45 AM
Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 21, 2018, 12:19:20 AM
Local news is awful about covering college teams up here, but we finally hear a peep!





I also didn't ask anyone to do a preview. I just sent out practice availability knowing there would be interest coming off a playoff win. It worked out with practice at the Hutson Center since Tuesday is the off day for the Packers and the media need a fresh story for Tuesday night.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.... my point was perhaps the reason a story wasn't done Monday wasn't that the media were ignoring SNC, but they knew of the availability on Tuesday
St. Norbert College Green Knights
NCAA D3 Hockey National Champions 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

TheGreenKnight920

Quote from: warhawkguard on November 21, 2018, 01:31:31 PM
I can attest to the great TV coverage the local teams get from GB television. WBAY and others have quite a robust sports coverage when I am at the lake near Shawano on many weekends. I live in Milwaukee and there is ZERO, zilch, nada coverage of anything besides the pro teams and the D1 programs. UWW gets a 2 second mention ONLY if they win the Stagg Bowl. We'd rather see the weather 4 times per 30 minutes in Milwaukee I guess...I have ripped a few of the Sprots guys here when I've met them and they say it isn't their call.

I'll be at the game Saturday cheering on my Warhawks. Last time you guys came to the Perk it wasn't pretty. Wait till you see OUR Defense!


I mean I think it is disingenuous to call any of the coverage great. One poster mentioned WBAY being good, and out of the stations in the area, they are probably the best, albeit with a low bar to measure up to. This isn't limited to SNC, though. GB Phoenix men's basketball, which I follow very closely, barely gets anything outside of a token mention, even when the team made the tourney in 2016 (though they do have a coaches show once a month, which I believe is on the radio). Even when the Knights get some air time, its typically limited to a 30 second blurb (see the story posted above) only when they are in the NCAA tournament for any sport. I get that the Packers are going to be the dominant story simply because of local interest, but all of the other college teams suffer. How often do you hear about Lawrence? Ripon? UWSP? Occasionally UWO will get a mention, but only when they are over-achieving. The local sports reporting scene also heavily prioritizes high school sports over any D3 school. Some stations will have their HS games of the week televised, they (at least in the past, and may still) have dedicated HS sports segments, etc...

I teach media studies classes, and this fits perfectly with a topic that I make sure to mention every semester: the paradox of news coverage in relation to public interest. For example, "Why does no one care about D3 sports?" "Because no one covers it." "Why does no one cover D3 sports?" "Because no one cares."

warhawkguard

Totally agree.

But, at least you get some coverage. I see all the Wisconsin college scores covered and maybe UW-O and SNC clips when I do see something. On GB stations, they at least exist. In Milwaukee, absolutely nothing at all. I'd be happy with the various scores on the ticker down below...

Charity walks with 200 some people get 10 minutes of air time...now THAT is something nobody actually cares about, but they have live reporting!
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6 Time National Champions

gbpuckfan

Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 21, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: warhawkguard on November 21, 2018, 01:31:31 PM
I can attest to the great TV coverage the local teams get from GB television. WBAY and others have quite a robust sports coverage when I am at the lake near Shawano on many weekends. I live in Milwaukee and there is ZERO, zilch, nada coverage of anything besides the pro teams and the D1 programs. UWW gets a 2 second mention ONLY if they win the Stagg Bowl. We'd rather see the weather 4 times per 30 minutes in Milwaukee I guess...I have ripped a few of the Sprots guys here when I've met them and they say it isn't their call.

I'll be at the game Saturday cheering on my Warhawks. Last time you guys came to the Perk it wasn't pretty. Wait till you see OUR Defense!

I mean I think it is disingenuous to call any of the coverage great. One poster mentioned WBAY being good, and out of the stations in the area, they are probably the best, albeit with a low bar to measure up to. This isn't limited to SNC, though. GB Phoenix men's basketball, which I follow very closely, barely gets anything outside of a token mention, even when the team made the tourney in 2016 (though they do have a coaches show once a month, which I believe is on the radio). Even when the Knights get some air time, its typically limited to a 30 second blurb (see the story posted above) only when they are in the NCAA tournament for any sport. I get that the Packers are going to be the dominant story simply because of local interest, but all of the other college teams suffer. How often do you hear about Lawrence? Ripon? UWSP? Occasionally UWO will get a mention, but only when they are over-achieving. The local sports reporting scene also heavily prioritizes high school sports over any D3 school. Some stations will have their HS games of the week televised, they (at least in the past, and may still) have dedicated HS sports segments, etc...

I teach media studies classes, and this fits perfectly with a topic that I make sure to mention every semester: the paradox of news coverage in relation to public interest. For example, "Why does no one care about D3 sports?" "Because no one covers it." "Why does no one cover D3 sports?" "Because no one cares."

There is also more of a community connection, I would argue, to the high schools. A portion, perhaps a significant portion, of the college student population is from outside the area. And certainly not all alums stay here. While as many people attend Green Bay Preble as go to SNC, I would think it's safe to say there are many more Preble alums and parents living in GB than those of SNC. And, they are likely to be more interested in and know people who go to almost any and all of their opponent schools than SNC's opponents of Monmouth, Knox, Lake Forest, Adrian, and so on. So, almost all of the HS highlights feature two local teams, while SNC/LU/RC/UWO only play each other sparingly, comparatively speaking.

And almost all of the other teams do get more coverage once Packers is done. That absolutely happens.
St. Norbert College Green Knights
NCAA D3 Hockey National Champions 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

sncsid

Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 21, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: warhawkguard on November 21, 2018, 01:31:31 PM
I can attest to the great TV coverage the local teams get from GB television. WBAY and others have quite a robust sports coverage when I am at the lake near Shawano on many weekends. I live in Milwaukee and there is ZERO, zilch, nada coverage of anything besides the pro teams and the D1 programs. UWW gets a 2 second mention ONLY if they win the Stagg Bowl. We'd rather see the weather 4 times per 30 minutes in Milwaukee I guess...I have ripped a few of the Sprots guys here when I've met them and they say it isn't their call.

I'll be at the game Saturday cheering on my Warhawks. Last time you guys came to the Perk it wasn't pretty. Wait till you see OUR Defense!


I mean I think it is disingenuous to call any of the coverage great. One poster mentioned WBAY being good, and out of the stations in the area, they are probably the best, albeit with a low bar to measure up to. This isn't limited to SNC, though. GB Phoenix men's basketball, which I follow very closely, barely gets anything outside of a token mention, even when the team made the tourney in 2016 (though they do have a coaches show once a month, which I believe is on the radio). Even when the Knights get some air time, its typically limited to a 30 second blurb (see the story posted above) only when they are in the NCAA tournament for any sport. I get that the Packers are going to be the dominant story simply because of local interest, but all of the other college teams suffer. How often do you hear about Lawrence? Ripon? UWSP? Occasionally UWO will get a mention, but only when they are over-achieving. The local sports reporting scene also heavily prioritizes high school sports over any D3 school. Some stations will have their HS games of the week televised, they (at least in the past, and may still) have dedicated HS sports segments, etc...

I teach media studies classes, and this fits perfectly with a topic that I make sure to mention every semester: the paradox of news coverage in relation to public interest. For example, "Why does no one care about D3 sports?" "Because no one covers it." "Why does no one cover D3 sports?" "Because no one cares."

It is all relative. Many D3 schools nationally would kill to get the television coverage St. Norbert receives. The MIAC schools in the Twin Cities and the CCIW schools in metro Chicago, for starters. I get the metrics on this every time St. Norbert receives a mention on the airwaves, anywhere. The benefit to the school is significant.

Dan McCarty has been on one Sunday night program twice this season. Tim Coghlin and Gary Grzesk have been on so many times I have lost count. Not to mention almost every St. Norbert home game in FB, MBB, WBB and HKY are staffed by at least one station for a highlights package. 30 seconds of game highlights is a long time in a three-minute overall sports segment where the Packers are in the news 330 days a year.

I've seen SIDs elsewhere beg for just a crumb once in a while and can't even get that. So I prefer to be thankful, and I know our coaches are too.

hazzben

Quote from: sncsid on November 21, 2018, 04:40:48 PM
It is all relative. Many D3 schools nationally would kill to get the television coverage St. Norbert receives. The MIAC schools in the Twin Cities and the CCIW schools in metro Chicago, for starters.

I actually think the MIAC gets pretty solid coverage by the local Twin Cities sports media (TV, Print, and Radio). There are consistently stories about small college sports, but disproportionately about the MIAC, compared to UMAC or NSIC teams, IMO.

Pat Coleman

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gbpuckfan

Congrats to SNC on a great season.

It was a 17-14 game today until UWW cranked it up.  But that doesn't overshadow a conference title and the second playoff win in school history - and just the fourth for the conference.
St. Norbert College Green Knights
NCAA D3 Hockey National Champions 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

TheGreenKnight920

#10844
The first half looked really promising. Couple of iffy plays that should have gone our way, but didn't, kind of shifted momentum. Honestly, I wasn't all that impressed by WW. Sure, they racked up points at the end, but we really gave them a game for 3/4s of it. The only real advantage they had was size, which isn't a skill. The SNC crowd really travelled well and the guys played hard till the end. Hopefully this is something the program can build off of to make that next step towards being a contender versus being a usual one-and-done team. Proud of everyone!