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DuffMan

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
I can't imagine any MIAC-member president voting "no" on bringing Macalester football back within the fold.

Really?  Do you honestly think that SJU and Bethel want Mac back?  I doubt Gustavus and Concordia do, either.

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DuffMan

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
And Macalester carries enough juice in the MIAC to have been granted that football exemption back in 2002.

I don't recall them being granted an exception.  They just left for football, and at the time, nothing prohibited that. 

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
And Macalester carries enough juice in the MIAC to have been granted that football exemption back in 2002.

I don't recall them being granted an exception.  They just left for football, and at the time, nothing prohibited that.

Macalester is an MIAC member. I don't think there would need to be a vote to return them to the conference master schedule in the sport of football.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 03:23:28 PM
I don't recall them being granted an exception.  They just left for football, and at the time, nothing prohibited that. 

The other presidents could've performed a ScotToss, just like this year's TomToss. They didn't.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2019, 03:28:46 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 03:23:28 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
And Macalester carries enough juice in the MIAC to have been granted that football exemption back in 2002.

I don't recall them being granted an exception.  They just left for football, and at the time, nothing prohibited that.

Macalester is an MIAC member. I don't think there would need to be a vote to return them to the conference master schedule in the sport of football.

Precisely.

Incidentally, my source reveals that Macalester was granted an extra year's grace period by the MWC yesterday, so the school now has a place within the MWC fold through the 2021 season. Of course, the Macalester braintrust will need to come up with a new league for the football program long before the 2021 season ends.
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jamtod

Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 03:21:43 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
I can't imagine any MIAC-member president voting "no" on bringing Macalester football back within the fold.

Really?  Do you honestly think that SJU and Bethel want Mac back?  I doubt Gustavus and Concordia do, either.

If recent history is any indication, what the football coaches or athletic departments want might not really matter.

Also, pretty shocking to think that the rest of the MIAC would act negatively towards Macalester, a founding member of the conference. One would think that founding member status should carry some cache.

DuffMan

+k to you, Jamtod, though I'll probably just take it back tomorrow.  ;D

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Gregory Sager

Quote from: jamtod on December 10, 2019, 03:54:58 PM
Also, pretty shocking to think that the rest of the MIAC would act negatively towards Macalester, a founding member of the conference. One would think that founding member status should carry some cache.

Elegantly expressed sarcasm there, jamtod. ;)

The thing is, though, St. Thomas and Macalester are apples and oranges. And when you think about it, that's the crux of the issue, as the MIAC is a league of oranges ... and Macalester is one of the two shiniest and most-cachet-having oranges in the neighborhood. ;)
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jamtod

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 04:27:06 PM
Quote from: jamtod on December 10, 2019, 03:54:58 PM
Also, pretty shocking to think that the rest of the MIAC would act negatively towards Macalester, a founding member of the conference. One would think that founding member status should carry some cache.

Elegantly expressed sarcasm there, jamtod. ;)

The thing is, though, St. Thomas and Macalester are apples and oranges. And when you think about it, that's the crux of the issue, as the MIAC is a league of oranges ... and Macalester is one of the two shiniest and most-cachet-having oranges in the neighborhood. ;)

Absolutely. Given the trajectory of the #TomToss decision, I'd be shocked if the MIAC university presidents didn't welcome Mac back with open arms. Really ironic because they left after getting their butts kicked way before St Thomas fully weaponized its football program.

Gregory Sager

The real question is why Macalester needed a one-year extension from the MWC to consider its options.
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DuffMan

Mac would be coming back to essentially the same MIAC they left.  Ass kickings by SJU, Bethel, Concordia, and Gustavus and winning a game or two.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

Pat Coleman

Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
Mac would be coming back to essentially the same MIAC they left.  Ass kickings by SJU, Bethel, Concordia, and Gustavus and winning a game or two.

Which I would want to delay for a year if I were them!
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Baldini

Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 10, 2019, 04:57:47 PM
The real question is why Macalester needed a one-year extension from the MWC to consider its options.

I may well be reading those tea leaves incorrectly, but that makes be believe that somewhere else is their preferred landing spot and the MIAC for football is their Plan B.

Retired Old Rat

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 10, 2019, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
Mac would be coming back to essentially the same MIAC they left.  Ass kickings by SJU, Bethel, Concordia, and Gustavus and winning a game or two.

Which I would want to delay for a year if I were them!

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OzJohnnie

Quote from: DuffMan on December 10, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
Mac would be coming back to essentially the same MIAC they left.  Ass kickings by SJU, Bethel, Concordia, and Gustavus and winning a game or two.

Worse for them since they left.  STO will deliver a beating as well.  They fortunately missed both Caruso and the Auggie air force, though.
  

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