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SeoulGuy

Quote from: CleverHandle on December 09, 2005, 03:03:27 PM
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.



It just goes to prove that many season end awards are flawed.  These two awards are probably based upon different criteria, I would imagine.
BTW, how many times did you see the two junior QB's in action? I believe the voters have more substantial & un-biased knowledge of the situation and selected who they believe had the better performances this season.  I have no problem with the picks.

Pat Coleman

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Quote from: CleverHandle on December 09, 2005, 03:03:27 PM
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.

One of the other picks is playing this weekend, and that joke of a quarterback helms a team that beat St. John's 34-7.

As for Andy Collins, I think I would take him over Tanney seven days a week and twice on Saturdays. But that was just my ballot. My vote was not a deciding factor on this point, it was already clear.

Remember what the Gagliardi Trophy stands for -- it is NOT the Division III Heisman.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Maverick

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 09, 2005, 09:25:09 PM
Quote from: CleverHandle on December 09, 2005, 03:03:27 PM
Tanney's a Gagliardi Finalist, and he's somehow not good enough to make it on an All-Region Team behind 2 junior quarterbacks?

I'll give you Brett Elliot, but the other two picks?

What a joke.

One of the other picks is playing this weekend, and that joke of a quarterback helms a team that beat St. John's 34-7.

As for Andy Collins, I think I would take him over Tanney seven days a week and twice on Saturdays. But that was just my ballot. My vote was not a deciding factor on this point, it was already clear.

Remember what the Gagliardi Trophy stands for -- it is NOT the Division III Heisman.

Yeah, Pat, everyone here is already quite aware of the fact that you would take anyone from a team outside of the MWC over anyone that is on a team in the MWC every single day of the week--or every single day of your life for that matter.  You've made that point about a thousand times over and over.
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Pat Coleman

Apparently it was news to CleverHandle. But I only had one vote -- even if you threw mine out, the result would not have changed.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

repete

And if Pat's going to stiff MWC on the all-region team, there's no way anyone from the MWC will ever make the all-american team, right?




Pat Coleman

Yeah, exactly. Deserving players from the MWC have gotten recognized on a regular basis. But Tanney wasn't one of the best three quarterbacks in the West. I would have voted for Whitworth's Joel Clark ahead of him as well, if I had to go that deep on a ballot.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

coco

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I was thinking about Clark as well. He's one of the better QBs we've seen.
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ScoutTeamHero

Quote from: Greg Pawlik on December 09, 2005, 05:30:25 PM
We strongly believe in his ability to bring out the best in his players on the field, in the classroom, and in all areas of campus life."

Lake Forest posted a 4-6 overall record in 2005.

Looks like mediocre gets it done at LFC. BTW, is Jackie a woman?

I believe Jackie is a woman and she coaches women's basketball as well.  I don't think she goes out of her way to help the football program there.

Maybe they're stressing, "in the classroom, and in all areas of campus life."


Emmys First Class

No Jackie doesn't help out the Football program. Though Coach Becker is the right man for the position he is not at fault for the dismal performane by this years team! Lack of leadership a running game and just overall talent is the cause of a 4-6 record. For his sake hopefully there is an in-flux of talent coming in this year as they lost thier entire offense in losing #2. These coaches are the same O and D coordinator as the prior year I can't see how to blame them alone. But I can't say things are looking up for the trees unless looking up is looking up at the scoreboard and the 148 points given up the last three weeks!
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ScoutTeamHero

Aztec Bowl for Casey Meehan, Congrats.   Nice honor, now with that being said should he be going as a product of the system or should some o-linemen because I think their 5th string running back could probably done the same things.  Maybe I'm out of line there but it's just a thought.  Their o-line is always the biggest and the best in this small-school d3 conference and I believe they usually have an o-lineman on an All-American team somewhere.  Sure he's had back to back 1000 yd seasons and average 20 tds per.  But is he one of the best in the nation ..... I don't know.  None the less, congrats on being selected.

ScoutTeamHero

Since I mentioned o-line in the post before I will talk about it again.   Logan said LFC has a lack of a running game, which is true.  Once again I think it begins up front.  I thought they had a good running back, but I guess he moved on to bigger and better things.  I guess only Walter Payton and Barry Sanders can only run without an o-line. 

BTW Logan, where are you thinking of going to college, will it be:  William Penn, Grinnell, Hanover, UWP, or Wartburg.  I'm sure you have plenty of offers coming in already with the qb guru mentoring and grooming you.

meachscribe

Quote from: ScoutTeamHero on December 12, 2005, 01:33:07 PM
Aztec Bowl for Casey Meehan, Congrats. Nice honor, now with that being said should he be going as a product of the system or should some o-linemen because I think their 5th string running back could probably done the same things. Maybe I'm out of line there but it's just a thought. Their o-line is always the biggest and the best in this small-school d3 conference and I believe they usually have an o-lineman on an All-American team somewhere. Sure he's had back to back 1000 yd seasons and average 20 tds per. But is he one of the best in the nation ..... I don't know. None the less, congrats on being selected.

There's no doubt he's one of the best. The O-line struggled early this season, with injuries and new starters in place. So, whetever he got, a lot was on his own. That being said, I don't believe Casey hit full stride until mid-year.
He's a hell of a player - Fast, quick feet, strong when he needs to be. I can't remember him coughing the ball up too much either.

I'd love to say he's a product of the good number of offensive lineman in De Pere the last six or seven years - I blocked for him on many occasion - but he really does deserve any recognition he gets. He showed up to school weighing about 140 (probably not, but he was light), and worked his way up. That's the sign, in my opinion, of a program-first kid, and that's Casey.

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Old_Style

Congrats to Meehan...I, like Pawlik, blocked for Casey for a few years around the MWC circuit. Casey is a very tough guy and a tough runner. He's from Rockbridge, IL. Other than Casey, the town is known for their pork chop and steak sandwiches(THANKS, Mr. Meehan). Pawlik is right about Casey showing up in De Pere at around 140. He worked too hard to have anyone question or judge his talents, abilities, or accomplishments. STH keep your comments on the practice field when you have no idea what you are talking about.