FB: Midwest Conference

[FloridaScot]

Hello proud Scots fans,
Let it be known that I agree that MC needs some deserved recognition but, as Ragone would say "control what you can control." The boys from MC will keep on keeping on and the votes will come.
Now with that said, PAPA I believe the bowl game you are refering to is the little known but highly sought after Fazolis.com Bog Bowl. This contest dates back nearly as long as the Turkey bowl and recently has had greater conferences ramifications. The trophy had been hand crafted by skilled artisans with percision crystal cutting tools, and might I add quite a sight to see. PAPA have a great time at the game and give OLE a bark for me. This week I will have my hands full trying to right the ship that is Mitchell H.S. football after suffering a last second lost to the Gulf H.S. Buccaneers (final score 29-28). Good luck in the BOG Scoties.
Aint it great to be a scot! PMS
The Rooster

[Maverick]

I think DU HAST just might be right--everyone seems to be on their period and/or just plain moody right now.  Alot of things being thrown back and forth recently, and it's only Monday...there's still alot of the week left, we all need to pace ourselves!

Anyhow, the good old Fazolis.com Bog Bowl.  Papa, I'm planning on being there also with a few other Fighting Scot alumni and will be sure to keep an eye open for you.

Like Florida Scot said: Control what you can control, win the games that are on your schedule, and the recognition of being mentioned in the D3football.com Top 25 Poll will come in its own time. 

Also, Monmouth fans who are calling for the recognition--don't forget that the Scots were receiving votes in last week's AFCA Top 25 Poll and could move up a little in this week's poll that will be released tomorrow.

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, and if we expanded our voter pool to 40 people you might get votes in our poll too.

[ScoutTeamHero]

There is no way that a team from this conf. should get any recognition besides maybe a few votes, and that team should be greatful.  No team is deserving of a top 25 ranking because they can't hold a candle to any of the top teams in this area.  If you look at teams in the CCIW they compete nationally every year and actually win playoff games.  Teams in the WIAC also play at another level compared to this conf.  Look at WW for the second year in a row just embarrasing SNC and this conf. as a whole. 

Until Monmouth goes undefeated and wins their first round game and actually plays somebody then there is no reason for recognition.   

[dw71911]

You can't take away from what MC offense has done. But why is nobody talking MC first team defense? Other than SNC I believe there has been six points scored against them in the first half while the first team is still in there.

[Early]

Sorry I'm so late but........CONGRATS RIPON on an impressive win over Lake Forest.  When not many gave them credit they come out and shut them out in the second half and score 3 times.  Must have been an exciting half of football.....wish I could have seen it.

Quade for Defensive MVP!!!

[scottie]

Pat: Thanks for correcting me on the North Park/North Central issue.  What was I thinking?

And to the rest of the Scots' fans watching the polls:  Mr. Coleman (if you please) will let us know when he's good and ready to start sending some love in Monmouth's direction.  If it helps, Pat, we'd be happy to send you a fruit cake with some haggus on the side.   

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"     (my new game face)

[Maverick]

Just checked that "other" poll (AFCA Top 25) that according to Pat C. has too many voters and saw that Monmouth is the first team listed in the receiving votes category this week.  The Scots could possibly break into that Top 25 next week if business is taken care of on Saturday at Lake Forest...and, who knows, might even be lucky enough grab a vote or two next week in the almighty Top 25 poll here on D3football.com. 

[Dolph Stanley]

"There is no way that a team from this conf. should get any recognition besides maybe a few votes, and that team should be greatful.  No team is deserving of a top 25 ranking because they can't hold a candle to any of the top teams in this area.  "

Interesting.  So, using your logic (?), there is no way a WIAC team should get a top 10 ranking until their champion proves they can keep it closer than 38 points in a playoff game against Linfield?

[Pat Coleman]

Dolph,

The list of teams that stayed within sight of Linfield is pretty short. That's an awful high standard.

[Dolph Stanley]

"The list of teams that stayed within sight of Linfield is pretty short. That's an awful high standard."

Agreed.  Just trying to illustrate the absurdity of the logic.  Last year, Whitewater did take it to St Norberts.  However, Norberts went to LaCrosse for the playoffs (a team that beat WW 35-10) and held a 23-10 lead entering the fourth quarter.  This hardly can be used as an example of not being able to compete with the top teams in the area.

Monmouth has yet to face the "best" in the Midwest but if and when they do, their accomplishments should stand on their own.  To use WW's games against SNC to claim that Monmouth is undeserving allows me to claim that no team in the WIAC is closer than five touchdowns to the defending national champ and therefore unworthy of a top 10 ranking.

Perhaps Monmouth will prove to be unworthy when the playoffs come.  However, St Norberts performance in the past two playoffs (vitory over Simpson, loss to NC St Johns in 03 and the Lacrosse game last season) would certainly seem to indicate that the MWC champs can be competive with very good programs.

[Maverick]

"The list of teams that stayed within sight of Linfield is pretty short. That's an awful high standard."

Agreed.  Just trying to illustrate the absurdity of the logic.  Last year, Whitewater did take it to St Norberts.  However, Norberts went to LaCrosse for the playoffs (a team that beat WW 35-10) and held a 23-10 lead entering the fourth quarter.  This hardly can be used as an example of not being able to compete with the top teams in the area.

Monmouth has yet to face the "best" in the Midwest but if and when they do, their accomplishments should stand on their own.  To use WW's games against SNC to claim that Monmouth is undeserving allows me to claim that no team in the WIAC is closer than five touchdowns to the defending national champ and therefore unworthy of a top 10 ranking.

Perhaps Monmouth will prove to be unworthy when the playoffs come.  However, St Norberts performance in the past two playoffs (vitory over Simpson, loss to NC St Johns in 03 and the Lacrosse game last season) would certainly seem to indicate that the MWC champs can be competive with very good programs.

If there was an icon that showed a pair of hands clapping, I'd put it in right here.  I applaud you and your very good points in that last post Dolph Stanley.

[Go Hawks]

Ripon/UWO:
http://www.wisinfo.com/northwestern/sports/stories/sports_22780495.shtml

[Hawk Sighting]

I think that was a great move by Ripon to add UWO on the schedule.  This will easly give them a taste of what it will take to be #1 in the conference and get them ready to play in the play offs.   Early how ya doing?  1st post, long time reader.

[ScoutTeamHero]

The early line:

Ripon  -  (-7)
Nubs  -   (-13.5)
Monmouth - (15.5)
Beloit  -   (-2)
Macalester - (even)