FB: Midwest Conference

[BoBo]

Oshkosh is a traditional bottom dweller in the WIAC.  They were suppose to be a middle of the road team this year, but it never materialized.  I like UW-O, as my parents both went there, but they have been a major disappointment to their fans and supporters.  How 'bout scheduling the real traditionally strong members of the WIAC, Whitewater and/or La Crosse???  They and the other institutions have to go to Texas, CA and D1-AA schools etc. etc. , because nobody in the area are willing to step up to a challenge.

What never "materialized".I would saying being 3rd in the WIAC is above middle of the pack.It took coach Phil Meyer a few years to get the kids into his system and to start getting top recruits to come to his program.Its easier to build a Basketball program in a few years than it is to build a Football program in a few.

JUSTINTYEM -
If you had seen the pre-season talk, Oshkosh expected to contend for the WIAC title. Everybody else thought of them as 3rd-5th place team. That ended with the first conference game loss at home to UWW and things went down in a hurry. So, their hopes for a title never "materialized." Going into today, they were in 4th place out of 8 teams - do you agree that's middle of the road?

[PapaSmurf]

SJU lost...looks like SNU will probably be traveling to Perkins Stadium to play UWW in the first round. 

St Johns losing at home, unbelievable.  SNC didn't catch any breaks today.
Maybe they'll get a break tommorow.  I hope so.  I hate that freaking cannon.

[BVHawk]

Congrats to St. Norbert for making the post season.  Best of luck!

[JUSTINTYEM]

Oshkosh is a traditional bottom dweller in the WIAC.  They were suppose to be a middle of the road team this year, but it never materialized.  I like UW-O, as my parents both went there, but they have been a major disappointment to their fans and supporters.  How 'bout scheduling the real traditionally strong members of the WIAC, Whitewater and/or La Crosse???  They and the other institutions have to go to Texas, CA and D1-AA schools etc. etc. , because nobody in the area are willing to step up to a challenge.

What never "materialized".I would saying being 3rd in the WIAC is above middle of the pack.It took coach Phil Meyer a few years to get the kids into his system and to start getting top recruits to come to his program.Its easier to build a Basketball program in a few years than it is to build a Football program in a few.

JUSTINTYEM -
If you had seen the pre-season talk, Oshkosh expected to contend for the WIAC title. Everybody else thought of them as 3rd-5th place team. That ended with the first conference game loss at home to UWW and things went down in a hurry. So, their hopes for a title never "materialized." Going into today, they were in 4th place out of 8 teams - do you agree that's middle of the road?

If you asked people that truely know something 3-5 was accurate.LOL,Im not sure If Oshkosh will ever make the Top 2 spots.LAX and WW seem to get the states top D3 guys year in and out.But UW-O is better than they have been in over a decade and a half i think.

[kiltman85]

Norbert gets UW-W in the first round.  It's another tough bracket in the west this year.  I think Norbert will play tough, but I don't think they can get past Whitewater at Perkins Stadium.

[Emmys First Class]

Hopefully we can make a better playoff showing next year! Tough draw nubs and least the Beave won't be there to paddle ya. I say the spread is about 42 an I take UWW

[ScoutTeamHero]

The only question is, will WW let up going into the second half up by 35 or will they try to prove a point?

[BoBo]

The only question is, will WW let up going into the second half up by 35 or will they try to prove a point?

ScoutTeamHero -

I think the only place UWW tries to prove a point, as you say, during the play-off run is in the Stagg Bowl.  UWW really wants another shot at MUC and I think they won't get total victory unless it's UWW vs MUC in the Stagg Bowl (with WW winning this year.)

The way UWW is going to do that is to do what they have done all year - take one game at a time, try to stay healthy and advance as far as they can.  They know they will be at the Perk throughout the playoffs.  But, this is the playoffs and anything can happen.  With Beaver and Rueland sidelined, they have been getting tremendous efforts out of their second/third TB and FB for the past 3 weeks.   

The nature of your question makes me believe you think UWW pours it on SNU.  Anything less would be unimpressive.  If so, why do you say this?

If WW is ahead by 35 in the second half, I'm sure Coach Brez will remove the starters and substitute freely, as he always does.  However, that will not mean they are letting up as the WW reserves have a lot of skill and talent, too, and will continue to take what is given them.

[Pat Coleman]

You only have 52 players to work with in the playoffs. You can't exactly empty the bench.

[BoBo]

Right you are, Pat.  But my point remains, WW will continue to play the game and take what they get.  They are not going to lay down like lambs in the second half should they be well in the lead.

[Emmys First Class]

BoBo go away! Was Beaver a second stringer the week he got hurt? Or is 28 not a big enough lead to bring in the second string in the 2nd half?  I know WW 2's and 3's are better than the MWC 1's but the point they would be proving to the MWC is your sending a the Freshman team into a varsity ball game.  Get the analogy BoBo or do you need further explanation?           

[BoBo]

Emmys First Class -

You seem to be troubled by the facts???  I'm sorry you are bothered by such trival matters. I apologize to the users of the Midwest Conference for continuing the discussion involving the WIAC, this is probably the wrong place to do do.

One more fact, you were not at the game in question, so I don't expect you to know all the facts and dynamics regarding it.  Let's cut to the chase, obviously, 28 was not a big enough lead to bring in the #2 RB, they were playing LaX, period, end of discussion, ok??? 

You would serve yourself better by taking off the defensive blinders.  Pls don't bore me with your lame anologies and/or further explanations.  If you have intelligent, insightful comments, I encourage you to respond and will give you the respect it deserves.

(BTW, I can't go away...you can only hope to contain me)

[badgerwarhawk]

Wasn't it two years ago that St Norbert nearly took down the WIAC champion, LaCrosse, in a hard fought first round matchup.  If my memory serves me that game was up still up in the air in the closing minutes.  The point is that you can't take anything for granted.  St Norbert has had two weeks to prepare and while they didn't know exactly who they would be playing that extra week can heal up a bunch of bumps and bruises and give the staff time to tweek a few things.  I expect them to be highly motivated and well prepared. 

I know their fans will be there to support them.  They've brought a large following to both of our recent meetings, among the largest we see.

Can someone clue me in on what St Norbert does on the field?  Do they run, pass?  What do they like to do defensively?  Who are their playmakers on both sides of the ball?   Info like that.

Thanks and good luck.

Is the St Norbert poster who owes me two cases of beer still around?  You know who you are.  How about double or nothing?   I knew I should have written down his name.  

[LAX LB]

I've seen ST. Norbert play a Lawarence this year and from what I saw.  STN likes to throw to the TE, who has some speed and soft hands.  The QB likes to loft the ball and UWW should pick him off often.

[Maverick]

badgerwahawk - Yes it was a couple years ago in the 2004 season that St. Norbert gave UW-LaCrosse all they could handle in the first round.  SNC actually led that game 23-10 midway through the 4th quarter before LAX rallied to win 37-23 as the Knights just couldn't quite finish the job.  And it was just 31-23 before the final play of the game where an SNC pass was intercepted and returned 90+ yards for the final TD.  Hopefully the Knights can get another good showing like that in this year's playoffs.