FB: Midwest Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Gonna have to change the rules of the Division, then, and the member schools have not seen fit to do so even though private schools are about 75% of the members.

[71RedHawk71]

I completely agree with you.  I don't see why they haven't see fit to do so.  Division II football is floundering with all the teams moving from D-II to D-IA.  Why not move the WIAC teams into D-II to try and keep that division afloat.  What's going to happen when enough of  the D-II teams move to D-IA are they going to move D-III teams to D-II?

[71RedHawk71]

Just wanted to see if there are any folks I played with or against online here?

[Pat Coleman]

I completely agree with you.  I don't see why they haven't see fit to do so.  Division II football is floundering with all the teams moving from D-II to D-IA.  Why not move the WIAC teams into D-II to try and keep that division afloat.  What's going to happen when enough of  the D-II teams move to D-IA are they going to move D-III teams to D-II?

I would suspect it's because you can't force someone out of Division III. Schools get to choose where they want to be. This isn't high school where you are classified by enrollment. It's classified by number of athletic scholarships awarded.

[Record breakers #1fan]

red hawk 71 or whatever your name is......

Dont cry because your team had no chance with the uw schools.  You make us all sound like a bunch of babies when you suggest that they should be moved up.  Private schools from other conferences seem to be able to handle the uw schools.  They are not crying every year that they are better.   The bottom line is that the mwc schools are full of kids who either are scared of the big uw schools or do not care enough.  The talent level is not much different between their best and the best of the midwest.  The bottom line is that they have more quality and they win.  Why penalize them. 

But forgive me, this is coming from a ripon grad, someone who has played for years with the greatest home field advantage in the league.  They are used to people handing them things.  Like 9 yard first downs and drive extending flags.  Anyone notice how the line judges are all wearing ripon hats..

Im not saying im just saying.......

RB#1F out....

[71RedHawk71]

First off I'm not hear complaining about any of the UW schools.  I played on the '96 Ripon team that went 9-1 but was given a bid to the playoffs.  So we'll never know if that team would have beat a UW team.  I will say that it's not been fun to see any of the MWC teams not win a single playoff game since the NCAA started that auto bids for each conference winner.  I hope that I didn't offend anyone!

As far as having homefield advantage at Ripon, I can only say that we didn't need linesmen to cheat for us.  Coach Ernst has fielded some very good teams since 1995.  I'm proud to have played for him.  I hope you don't have an issue w/ that.

[BoBo]

I hope LAX does but we'll see an Bobo I'll be back for you

Say what???   
And to think I FORGOT about you.   

[Pat Coleman]

St. Norbert has won a playoff game in the automatic bid era.

[UWPSUPERFAN77]

WIAC have some disadvantages in playing FB vs private schools. Most of the teams in our conference have high academic standards. it is hard to get admitted if you are only an average student. Also, we are limited to 100 players on the rosters, unlike many private schools. Private schools do not want to play us, several teams in recent years have only played 9 games. Lastly, if your teams want to be ready for the playoffs, play good programs to get ready for the Playoff. Thanks for hearing me on your site. God Bless and have a happy Thanksgiving to all !

[JUSTINTYEM]

WIAC have some disadvantages in playing FB vs private schools. Most of the teams in our conference have high academic standards. it is hard to get admitted if you are only an average student. Also, we are limited to 100 players on the rosters, unlike many private schools. Private schools do not want to play us, several teams in recent years have only played 9 games. Lastly, if your teams want to be ready for the playoffs, play good programs to get ready for the Playoff. Thanks for hearing me on your site. God Bless and have a happy Thanksgiving to all !

Im not sure how to take this post. Is this a person for the WIAC. Thus the comments about wanting to play top competition to get ready for the play-offs. Or a pro-private school(MWC) because of the "HIGH" academic standards. Cause the WIAC isnt a High academic conference. If you are in the top 50%(atleast) you can get into a WIAC school. The WIAC is "FAR" from a High academic conference. That is as DUMB as LU's Punter Ken Alvord (#2 in the nation in punting at 42.2 per) not even being 1st team all conference. Can someone please explain to me how this happens. He averages 4.2 more yards per kick,and kicks 13 more times than 2nd place.Thats Crap!!!!! Ken Alvord got screwed by the MWC coaches.  

[theoptimist]

Only needing to be in the top 50% to get into the WIAC schools?  Tell that to the thousands of high schoolers who can't get into UW-LaCrosse.

And any conference that claims Ripon as one of its members should not be disparaging another conference's academics.

[Hawk Sighting]

Only needing to be in the top 50% to get into the WIAC schools?  Tell that to the thousands of high schoolers who can't get into UW-LaCrosse.

And any conference that claims Ripon as one of its members should not be disparaging another conference's academics.

Are you kidding me? Ripon is one of only five Wisconsin colleges and universities (along with UW-Madison, Marquette University, Lawrence University, and Beloit College) to be included each year in the Princeton Review's 361 Best Colleges and Universities in the country rankings. Ripon is also one of only three private colleges in Wisconsin (along with Lawrence and Beloit) to make the US News and World Report America's Best Colleges list for national liberal arts colleges. Ripon has the highest percentage of medical school admissions of all Wisconsin colleges and universities, as well as the best placement percentage of teaching certifiers of any college or university in Wisconsin. To ridicule Ripon's academic quality is simply a symptom of ignorance...something we've grown accustomed to from state school grads". 

[JUSTINTYEM]

Only needing to be in the top 50% to get into the WIAC schools?  Tell that to the thousands of high schoolers who can't get into UW-LaCrosse.

And any conference that claims Ripon as one of its members should not be disparaging another conference's academics.

Are you kidding me? Ripon is one of only five Wisconsin colleges and universities (along with UW-Madison, Marquette University, Lawrence University, and Beloit College) to be included each year in the Princeton Review's 361 Best Colleges and Universities in the country rankings. Ripon is also one of only three private colleges in Wisconsin (along with Lawrence and Beloit) to make the US News and World Report America's Best Colleges list for national liberal arts colleges. Ripon has the highest percentage of medical school admissions of all Wisconsin colleges and universities, as well as the best placement percentage of teaching certifiers of any college or university in Wisconsin. To ridicule Ripon's academic quality is simply a symptom of ignorance...something we've grown accustomed to from state school grads". 

DING,DING,DING Someone just Hit a Perfect Bullseye. Thats why the MWC is better than the WIAC its all about intelligence. MWC grads make Far more money than WIAC grads on average. Great Post Hawk!!!!!

[JUSTINTYEM]

WIAC have some disadvantages in playing FB vs private schools. Most of the teams in our conference have high academic standards. it is hard to get admitted if you are only an average student. Also, we are limited to 100 players on the rosters, unlike many private schools. Private schools do not want to play us, several teams in recent years have only played 9 games. Lastly, if your teams want to be ready for the playoffs, play good programs to get ready for the Playoff. Thanks for hearing me on your site. God Bless and have a happy Thanksgiving to all !

Im not sure how to take this post. Is this a person for the WIAC. Thus the comments about wanting to play top competition to get ready for the play-offs. Or a pro-private school(MWC) because of the "HIGH" academic standards. Cause the WIAC isnt a High academic conference. If you are in the top 50%(atleast) you can get into a WIAC school. The WIAC is "FAR" from a High academic conference. That is as DUMB as LU's Punter Ken Alvord (#2 in the nation in punting at 42.2 per) not even being 1st team all conference. Can someone please explain to me how this happens. He averages 4.2 more yards per kick,and kicks 13 more times than 2nd place.Thats Crap!!!!! Ken Alvord got screwed by the MWC coaches.  

Oh one more point to my Ken Alvord got screwed statement. Forstrom wasnt even in the top 50 in the nation for punting,that is an even bigger screw job than I thought. Check the stats here if you dont believe me  http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings

[Pat Coleman]

Net punting, from the Midwest Conference stats. Interesting to see which team leads. Guess the coaches voted on more than just raw punting yards, perhaps hang time was a factor?

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PUNTING               G  No. Yards   Avg  Ret  Yds  Avg Net/P
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St. Norbert......... 11   39  1422  36.5   11   45  1.2  35.3
Monmouth............ 10   44  1650  37.5    9  206  4.7  32.8
Illinois College.... 10   46  1529  33.2   17  105  2.3  31.0
Ripon............... 10   31  1048  33.8   11  102  3.3  30.5
Lake Forest......... 10   52  1670  32.1   19   86  1.7  30.5
Lawrence............ 10   52  1939  37.3   27  367  7.1  30.2
Beloit.............. 10   67  2152  32.1   27  240  3.6  28.5
Carroll............. 10   50  1519  30.4   16  118  2.4  28.0
Knox................ 10   40  1352  33.8   17  240  6.0  27.8
Grinnell............ 10   46  1713  37.2   27  461 10.0  27.2