FB: Midwest Conference

Early · October 03, 2005, 10:55:07 AM

Hey Hawk fans out there.....was anyone at the Carroll game? Just wondering about the game cause the stats don't always tell the story. I realize that the offense isn't really geared towards putting up a lot of points all at once.....it's more like Coach Boone in "Remember the Titans"....."It's like novicane...give it time it always works." So that doesn't help when you get behind by a lot the way the Redhawks did.

Hawk Sighting....Homecoming this weekend? You gonna be there? I will be.

rome · October 03, 2005, 11:23:06 AM

Way to go bucs in getting the HC win over LU!

papa90 · October 03, 2005, 12:36:58 PM

I went to Monmouth-Lake Forest game and I was truly disappointed. I am big Monmouth fan and I am happy that they won, but a shutout against LFC at their home field.
Monmouth is a good squad, but what the heck is happening at LFC. They had the ball inside their 40 twice in the second half and...PUNTED the ball. Not to mention the poor clock management at the end of the first half. I guess the Lake Forest coaches are just happy playing football. Something is wrong with the players and coaching staff at LFC. They seem that they are content to just stay in the game. LFC was a great program and still is, but what happened in the game on Saturday. I havent watched LFC play all year, so maybe this is an ongoing thing. I want the MWC to be competitive and would like to see a team come to play. Any team can beat any body on any given day. Lets have at it the last half of the season and bring the noise. Go Scotties, Beat the Pioneers this weeekend.

CBS · October 03, 2005, 01:38:09 PM

Can anyone beat MC?
Oct 8 @ GC...nope
Oct 15th host LU...nope
Oct 22 host IC....

Oct 29 @ CC...

Nov 5 @ KNOX Bronze Turkey..nope

Oct 8 games
BC @ CC
KNOX @ LFC
IC @ RC
SNC @ LU
MC @ GC
thoughts??
Congrats BC

1morefan · October 03, 2005, 02:41:09 PM

Hi, kinda new to the D3 board as far as writing goes. Early how do the stats for Ripon game not show you anything? Carroll completely waxed them up and down the field in all three phases of the game!

As far as anyone beating Monmouth we'll see, they are a pretty talented team, I agree with CBS Carroll or IC have the only shot left at beating them. IC has a load of talent at their skill positions that could give Monmouth some problems and Carroll is starting to get a "home-field" advantage and will play monmouth tough.

Old Fighting Scot · October 03, 2005, 03:01:53 PM

Hello Scotland Fans,

just got back from my midwestern trip. very glad i got to see a very dominant Fighting Scot Club.

Can anyone say statement! the MC staff (prolly tired of the rookies getting lit up in the 4th, and having ppl think we have no D) very classily (word?) and strategically let the boys play (mainly the d) a little bit longer so as to preserve the shutout.

Not only did the offense come to play (third quarter tanney to haffner was amazing) but the defense just looked freakishly better. LFC had no where to run, the qb had no time (nor any open receivers) to pass, and the MC defense seemed to be playing with a (dare i say it) championship swagger. Yes the O is great but the D seemed to be HITTING on all cylinders.

LFC played hard the whole game (especially #10 on D, even though the stats against him wont show it) but they were just brutally overmatched. These arent your older brothers fighting scots (id say mothers but we were actually good in the late 70's) these boys are for real.

Great Job and keep it up.

And as for IC or Carroll giving the Scotties a game, just look at the stats from last year (the ic game was the blueboys homecoming, ugly). NC baby, no contest!

scottie · October 03, 2005, 04:22:51 PM

A quick toast to the Scots for cracking the shell which is the Pat Coleman Mafia

a few weeks earlier than predicted. Yes, it's only one vote for the top 25....but it's a start. Go Scots!

"Monmouth Football in 2005!" [/color]

LFCdad · October 03, 2005, 05:40:14 PM

It"s nice to see some chatter on this site. I am in total agreement with you papa90 that we need to be competitive as a conference if we are going to get any respect.As for sat. game against MC what can I say everything went right for them.They have the best D we have faced so far and their QB looked very good.LFC will be OK they are young and so is their staff. Once they figure out how to run the ball and mix it up a little better everything will be fine. Looking at the games so far in the conference it seems there is no sure thing.It might be to early to judge SNC,but it looks like everyone else is having trouble putting together two or three good games in a row.

Early · October 04, 2005, 09:00:40 AM

1morefan,
What I was saying was the stats don't ALWAYS tell the story.....and was just asking for some input on the subject. The score also tells the story sometimes too....and the stats and score appear that Carroll wooped up on Ripon.
I just was curious if anything else played a factor....injuries, turnovers, penalties, etc. Cause some of RC usually dominant players didn't have the stats they usually do.

Fight it off Hawks!! Get ready for Homecoming vs. IC.

Holla!

1morefan · October 04, 2005, 01:16:42 PM

Early,

Carroll jumped all over them right away, INT for TD, blocked punt for a safety and TD. Now from my understanding Jahns the running back was hurt last week and didn't play and was seen at the game on crutches, him being hurt obviously hurt RC.

On the subject of conference getting respect we have to start having teams show more in the post-season. SNC had UWL beat from what I heard and didn't put them away, if we want the respect around the nation things like that cannot happen!

Hawk Sighting · October 04, 2005, 05:32:47 PM

The carroll game?! What can I say, from the sound of it I dont think anyone showed up for the game. I can just imagine the thought process before the game, "they lost to LU, they can not be that good". Well Carroll came out and was ready to play. It's something that is sad that it had to happen but the season isnt over. Congrats to Carroll, were they the better team? Sat, yes they were, over all i am not sure. I wish the Hawks the best of luck this weekend. I also know that we always have a tough time at Carroll expesially during their homecoming, not trying to give an excuse, because Carroll you deserved to get the W sat!!

Early i am sorry but i will be missing the Homecoming game, i will be in Nebraska for work. Let me know how it goes, and have a couple for me that night!

Ripon Redmen 78 · October 04, 2005, 09:26:41 PM

The problem with SNC is the Jason Housh factor is gone, remember he either played on all of their championship teams or played along side and tutored all of the major contributors to their championship run. What a brilliant move it was when Jason suggested the coaches move him from FB to the DL and Jeremiah Janssen from DB to LB, this spurred the championship run. I'm sure if you ask Jeremiah Janssen, he will tell you the reason he is not in the NFL today is Housh was not in the Jets camp. Bring him back and return to GLORY!

Dolph Stanley · October 04, 2005, 11:45:57 PM

"On the subject of conference getting respect we have to start having teams show more in the post-season. SNC had UWL beat from what I heard and didn't put them away, if we want the respect around the nation things like that cannot happen!"

I can't speak for anyone else but I have little desire to see teams in the MWC aspire to being able to compete at the highest levels of D3 football. If it happens great, but I repsect the conference as a whole for continuing to recruit students who also want to play football. To expect the average MWC school with somewhere between 1000-1250 students (in most cases less than half men) admission standards that range form selective to highly selective and tuition room and board in the $25,000-$35,000 range to compete on a consistent basis with schools from the WIAC is simply not realistic.

Winning the conference is a great accomplishment. Winning a first round game as SNC did two years ago is wonderful. Competing to the final whistle with a national champion Saint Johns team and a very good UWLC as Norberts has done the past two seasons also solid accomplishments.

I will be cheering for whoever wins the conference this year to go deep in to the tournament. However, the conference as it is made up right now will never be a football power and should that become a point of emphasis I think you would see several of the most prestigious and long term members look to play elsewhere.

ScoutTeamHero · October 05, 2005, 09:31:43 AM

The Early Line-

Carroll -10.5

Monmouth -23

Ripon -13

Lake Forest -11

SNC -6.5

ScoutTeamHero · October 05, 2005, 09:48:46 AM

Many interesting games around the MWC this week. Far and away the best team is Monmouth and they continue to show it this week destroying Grinnell. MC has the best O and D in the conf. I can't wait to see what happens in the Nubs vs. Larry this week. Meehan has just started to pick up his scoring and I think they need to get George the ball more. LC has been in close games all year so who knows what can happen. I think Ripon should handle the Blue Boys at home during homecoming? but an upset isn't out of question either. LFC should batter Knox for the second year in a row, but the only thing getting battered lately for the Foresters is their offense by opposing teams. Good luck to all teams this weekend.