FB: Midwest Conference

Pat Coleman · October 22, 2008, 10:59:50 PM

They come out next week.

Redhawk Sighting · October 23, 2008, 08:34:56 AM

Another big game for Ripon this weekend. It would be AWESOME for Ripon to finally get the monkey off their back and beat Norberts, even better is putting norberts with 2 losses. I will be heading to see this game. I won't be going to in-depth about this game, I am excited to see the game and obviously looking for a Ripon Win. SNCOLDad you going to be at that game?

Good Luck to everyone and safe travels!

The Roop · October 23, 2008, 10:37:17 AM

Quote from: piopride10 on October 21, 2008, 07:30:13 PM
1. Beloit – Could their new complex be any nicer? Maybe field turf? No, let's keep this place natural. Just an awesome experience for visiting teams with terrific locker rooms.

Actually Beloit was to have field turf installed after the conclusion of last season and it's still in "the works".

The project also included upgrading the track to NCAA standards so that they could host meets. I haven't got a straight answer as to the delay but my guess is that there's more involved than anticipated. What do you do with the light poles ?? Where do you hold the field events without getting rid of the baseball and softball fields; or the practice field behind the stadium ??

I will speculate and say that maybe they should have put the tennis courts elsewhere.

SNCOLDAD · October 23, 2008, 10:38:35 AM

Redhawk, I had every intention of going but it is not going to happen. I will miss the game. But I will see my son.

That is the good news.

This will be the 1st game I missed this year and last.

I would expect a good game, but I think the overall strength of SNC will do the job. I don't think they will come out as flat as they did last week. If they do, it can be a very short game with Ripon's ball control offense that can eat up the clock in big chunks.

sncfballfan · October 23, 2008, 12:05:39 PM

How does that work SNCOL

Predicting Monmouth and SNC to win out with this weekends game to be a flop for the Red Ducks. One day Ernst will learn that the option offense is not as effective in college football as other offenses and must get out of the time warp they are in. I'm sure Ripon fans will argue with that comment but how many QBs are they going to get into that program that have a big time arm and can be relied upon to throw when needed? High school kids look at all the stats and want to have big numbers while in college and that's definitely not the case down south.

SNCOLDAD · October 23, 2008, 12:40:04 PM

I tend to agree. College football has evolved into a more wide open game and away from the pure option wishbone that was used by many strong programs many years ago. I believe the big reason is that more High Schools are going to a pro set and more passing than before. This has better prepared a number of players for that type of offense.

Scots4 · October 23, 2008, 01:05:38 PM

...and somewhere Eric Crouch is hugging his Heisman tight and crying himself to sleep.

The Roop · October 23, 2008, 01:41:44 PM

The 1st bid is likely to win that Heisman on eBay.

fightintitan2006 · October 23, 2008, 06:29:47 PM

sncfballfan,

I'm not a Ripon fan by trade, but I will argue with your comment. If you look at Ripon's stats, they don't need a quarterback with a big arm. Its a system offense predicated on a QB making the right reads and a good offensive line. All the other parts are interchangeable. It certainly isn't conducive to coming back, but is meant to shorten the game and thus try to eliminate the chance for an opponent to get up too quick on you unless they are considerably better, in which case it probably doesn't matter what you run. Ripon's won a lot more than they have lost with it and have beat or played well against their measuring stick, MC and SNC, with it the past few years, so I say if it aint broke don't fix it.

And as long as there is football in the Midwest, there will be small schools running the Wing-T, double-wing, veer, etc...you will always find a QB willing and able to run the option.

MWCfan787 · October 23, 2008, 08:10:28 PM

Ripon has some good athletes regardless of the type of offense they run. You'll see this weekend SNC. They had the Scots beat, but couldn't finish. I actually think Ripon is probably more talented than SNC this year but I'm picking SNC anyway, because I feel they still of have some Green Knight voodoo over the Redhawks.

Give Ripon a pocket passer like Tanney and have their current qb and a couple backs change to receiver, who knows what they would have done this year. I think option is nice, but not the Ripon option more like the Illinois/West Virgnia(Soon to be Michigan) option out of the shotgun with a lot of passing too.

Order the rings Scots!!
Monmouth College Football in 2008!!!

sncfballfan · October 23, 2008, 09:03:09 PM

How can you say they don't need a qb with a strong arm?? Have you watched a ripon game in the past 5 or 6 years (ever since Trickey graduated)

It's 3rd down and long and they have a qb who can't make a play with anything but his legs...and no, throwing a 30 yard "bomb" on a fade and hoping someone in red & white doesn't count....

fightintitan2006 · October 23, 2008, 10:06:47 PM

I've seen them go 25-12 the past few years and were up 10 points on the conference champs with about 6 left last week.

The point of the offense is to avoid 3rd and longs...the offense isnt built to convert them when they do get in them.

Chief116 · October 24, 2008, 12:01:58 AM

I hope the SNC football team believes the option is outdated. Option football is a great offense. While I agree, it has evolved at some programs, Ripon's system has shown it can put up points and win games. I don't know an offense that is set up for third and long, and if they are, how good is the system anyway.
It is nice to read the respect Ripon gets from teams they have played. Let's see what SNC fans have to say after this weekend.
GO REDHAWKS

The Roop · October 24, 2008, 08:53:50 AM

Lets not forget that you also need a suitable receiving corps to become a big play offense. Giving Ripon an All-World QB does not mean they will suddenly throw for 400 yards a game. And I'm not saying that to slight Ripon but we have to face the fact of D3. Recruit all you want but you have to make the best out of what you get.

As long as there are option teams in high school there will always be players available to run it in college. The ball control aspect of it means that your defense is usually well rested. Score all you want but if you can't stop anybody you don't win very often.

Redhawk Sighting · October 24, 2008, 09:04:14 AM

Thank you to everyone that posted about the option, I was going to stay out of it and see what everyone else had to say. I love when some people make comments with out any idea of what they are speaking of. If you understand the Option and the point of the option (which it looks like most of you do) then you would never come on a board like this and make a comment like SNCFballfan, but that is what i can expect from a SNC fan. If you want to really argue, look at the YPG that Ripon has had that last few years. I am pretty sure they have been in the top in the country for YPG.

Good Day!