FB: Midwest Conference

[FloridaScot]

Hows this for unimaginative? BeeeLOW Me.
Which is only fitting because you and everyone else on this board are below the men in kilts (hows the view?).
We at Monmouth are proud of the all sport championships because were true competitors and could whip yall in everything from football to chinesse checkers.
The only exciting thing in Wisconsin is that stupid truck in the tree that coach Elliot gets so excited about.
You can also BeeeLOW my PMS.

[scottie]

In case you haven't read "Around the Midwest"...

Other tidbits
Monmouth (7-0, 6-0 in the MWC) continues to dominate the Midwest Conference and remained undefeated last week with a 41-13 victory over Lawrence. Monmouth, despite being 24-3 over the past three years, 37-10 since 2001 and averaging 45.1 points per game, has been receiving only scant attention from the pollsters. ...

Welcome to Monmouth Nation, Clyde Hughes!

By the way, as someone who has been active on this site for the past several years (although admittedly moreso on D3hoops), I wouldn't say that there has been substantially much more posting from the Monmouth contingent.  Rather, most of the other regulars (SNC, Ripon, and Carroll) have just disappeared.  Maybe it is they who possess the lack of imagination.

"Everybody now....!"   

[meachscribe]

I'm here.

[scottie]

We'll never call you Greg "fair weather" Pawlik.  We might call you some other names, but not fair weather.   

[scottie]

Did somebody say, "learn how to recruit?"

Coe drops out of AFCA poll
The AFCA Top 25 through Week 7:

Rank School (1st votes) Rec. Pts. Prev.
1. Linfield (35) 5-0 994 1
2. Mount Union (5) 6-0 961 2
3. Rowan 6-0 898 3
4. Hardin-Simmons 6-0 877 4
5. St. John's 7-0 841 5
6. UW-Whitewater 6-0 805 7
7. Occidental 5-0 719 8
8. Trinity (Texas) 5-0 694 9
9. Delaware Valley 6-0 659 10
10. Mary Hardin-Baylor 4-1 524 13
11. Hobart 6-0 454 14
12. North Central 6-0 393 21
13. St. John Fisher 6-1 373 16
14. Bridgewater (Va.) 4-1 339 17
15. Johns Hopkins 6-0 321 18
16. Concordia-Moorhead 5-1 319 11
17. Washington & Jefferson 6-1 308 19
18. Monmouth 7-0 303 20
19. Ithaca 5-1 300 6
20. Thiel 6-0 271 23
21. Wabash 6-0 267 24
22. UW-La Crosse 3-2 244 12
23. Wheaton 5-1 203 22
24. Augustana 5-1 156 —
25. Wesley 7-0 142 —

Dropped out: No. 15 Coe, No. 25 Carthage

Others receiving votes: Union 112; Ferrum 90; St. Olaf 84; Coe 77; Salisbury 67; Central 52; Trinity (Conn.) 48; Alma 20; UW-Oshkosh 19; John Carroll 15; Christopher Newport 12; Whitworth 10; McDaniel 9; Wartburg 5; Carthage 5; Capital 4; Washington & Lee 3; RPI 2; St. Norbert 1.

[meachscribe]

How very honest of you.

I don't mean to be coy, but someone said earlier you Skirts could compete in the top 3 of any conference in the area (I'm sure that's a loose comparison to what was really written). Either way, I'm not buying that. You've had a good year thus far, but I can't see you taking down a No. 2 in the playoffs in the first round, which is what you'll have to do to convince a lot of onlookers otherwise.

Insert SNC comment losing however many before winning one against the aforementioned crap IIAC team. Whatever. I beat you to it.

Someone enlighten me. If, if, if you win out, whodoya got?  Figure UWW or SJU at No. 1 with a bye, or is this different (with byes that is). Then you're either at SJU or UWW (probably UWW with the distance thing.)

A lot of dancing to go, but don't be unrealistic with who you are.  Ask LFC how good teams around the region really are. They got smoked a few years back with Baby Urlacher in the middle.

What's the saying - Don't count your chickens ...

[lfcsports]

Wartburg on 2002 was nasty. And by nasty, I mean faster, stronger, more disciplined than any MWC team we played in '02. And after thrashing us by six TDs, they went to Oregon and got their tails handed to 'em by Linfield.

Pawlik's right.

We as a conference are ranked #21 for a reason - we're not as good as most of the others.

That said, however, after starting against Monmouth and St. Norbert in '04 I will say that Monmouth's front seven (six of which are returners) was the best in the conference. The numbers might not support that, but as a team LFC couldn't do a thing to them last year and the same was true this year. Combine that with a monster year from Tanney, and the Scots could have success.

Just don't get ahead of yourselves, and make sure you're thinking in terms of playoff success. LFC was killed by focusing too much energy on the Norbert game - when that was over, it felt like our season was too.

[scottie]

Nice try, Greg...  Monmouth's remaining opponents have a combined MWC record of 8-8.  While I would say that the Scots are a favorite to be 10-0 after the Knox game, anything could happen.  So until things are a little more certain, you won't read anything from THIS fan about the Scots in the playoffs until it's in the bag. 

With that said, I predict that the MWC champ will probably not get a great draw in the playoff bracket.  A trip to Whitewater or St. John's would not surprise me in the least.

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   

[Old Fighting Scot]

I talk about the playoffs because that is how we will get our respect.  you look forward to it because an undefeated conference schedule means nothing if you get blown out in the first round.  You relish the hatred from other conferences because you know that when the time is right everyone will realize that your school, your team, your conference is legit.

No one from "Scots Nation" is claiming that MC is the best team in the country, all we ask for is respect.  Whether our conference is ranked 21st or not, we have a talented team. 

Truthfully a little more speed on defense and maybe one more playmaker on offense is what sets us apart from being on the same level of the Linfields and Mount Unions.  But to say that we cant be mentioned in the same breath with confernces and/or schools in our own backyard, who recruit the same kids we do, do not have the quality of training facilities we do, and

[coocooforcoekohawk]

Scottie,
Good showing in the d3footbal.com poll.  Those pollsters must realize you haven't played anyone decent this year.  Start scheduling decent non-conference opponents.  At least SNC had the intestinal fortitude to take on the WIAC's best, even though they got creamed.  You have one other decent team in your conference and they got blown out by the WIAC's best, no wonder your conference gets no respect.  Your non-conference win came against a team that lost to a team (Lakeland) that shouldn't have been on the same field as UWW (73-12).  What do you think you are going to do against UWW in the playoffs, your most likely opponent.  Oh, and the AFCA poll has been schizophrenic all year.  So schedule a MIAC, WIAC, or IIAC team.  The IBC is worse then say, oh I don't know, the MWC.

[Maverick]

Holy crap this board has been rolling over faster during the last few days and everyone seems to be as pissed off as ever!   I'm not even going to try to respond to anything at this point--it would just take way too long for now.

Actually I will reply to a couple things I guess. 
1) Scottie - nice haiku, can't wait to read more of those once basketball season swings into high-gear! 
2) Florida Scot - you said you were sure Monmouth still smells...well you're right, it still smells like a winner baby!

Other than that, I'll try to keep up with the board a little better in the future from now on so I don't fall behind by 3 days.  And if I don't post anything on here between now and Saturday, I'm looking forward to seeing as many of you Fighting Scot alumni as possible at homecoming this weekend.  PMS!!![/color]

[ScoutTeamHero]

We as a conference are ranked #21 for a reason - we're not as good as most of the others.

Just don't get ahead of yourselves, and make sure you're thinking in terms of playoff success. LFC was killed by focusing too much energy on the Norbert game - when that was over, it felt like our season was too.

As a conference I don't think that there are any real programs besides SNC, and Monmouth has been building one the last few years as well.  If you look at SNC and MC, they have been bringing in quality kids and have always had numbers.  For the most part teams usually only bring in what they need and aren't deep at any position.  IC and Carroll are building but they aren't there yet.  Hopefully Lawrence will begin to turn it around.  Ripon has been off but I think they are there.  The others aren't even close. 

Monmouth and SNC are good teams but when they play average high school teams week in and week out in conference they don't get any better.  The only way to get any respect is to get better as a whole conference.  It will only make everyone else more competitive.

lfcsports,
LFC was fortunate to have players fall in their lap and that turned into a championship.  They need to find themselves and settle on a coach.  Is this year just a tryout for the coaching staff or what AD.  And it was evident that LFC thought their season was over after SNC in '02 because they didn't bother to show up in the playoffs. 

Comments??

[scottie]

cocopuff:  We begin next season with Wartburg.  Satisfied?

"Maverick finishes out the season strong in 2005!" 

[coocooforcoekohawk]

YES!

[qbdriver]

RE:  Did somebody say, "learn how to recruit?"

Scottie,

You must be living in a shell.  Hope you will open your eyes when you play UWW.  Get real, Coe got out of the MAC because they wanted some respect.   Now they are contenders in the IIAC every year.  And Wartburg will drill you next season.  They have 120 players on their squad each year and have field turf and a great facility.  They are able to get the best recruits in the league and compete with Coe to get them.  I hear Coe is getting field turf on their game field and practice field along with lights.  The word is they plan on having the 4A schools in CR play one game their each week and then host play-off games.  That may move them in front of the Knights for recruiting purposes. 

Also, your administrators are also fooling themselves if they think they are so astute when it comes to academics.   It's just a way in which they can justify keeping the athletic departments down and not having to give them money.  And letting their development departments continue their weak efforts in the fund raising efforts.  Don't tell me that Central, Coe, Wartburg, St Johns and Augustana are just as good or better than the MAC schools when it comes to academics.  We'll maybe not Grinnell....but everyone else.  But who wants to be like them.

I guess it wouldn't be so bad if you weren't running your month.  I'm from that part of the country and thought as you did before I moved away.  Don't get brain washed, or you'll be eating a lot of crow in the future.